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post Mar 29 2022, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(Axel @ Mar 29 2022, 01:14 AM)
Does anyone know if there are any Perodua shops / salesperson with ready stock Ativa? Parents want to get one next month and I heard the waiting period is still rather long, like a 3-4 months wait but heard from some people online there are places with ready stock.
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if you're in selangor, perodua sentral
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post Apr 8 2022, 09:48 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7PnQtibxc8&t=1s

Adrian from WapCar sells the company's Ativa to Carsome for 61k, a 15% depreciation.
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post Apr 12 2022, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(NF2M @ Apr 10 2022, 01:48 PM)
Do you actually believe it was a real long term review and was purchased with their oun fund without any prior engagement with other parties?
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Not trying to say anything and was merely sharing the video.

But does it really matter if there were "prior engagements"?

The item to highlight here is the value at which he sold the car along with it's depreciation of 15%.
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post May 2 2022, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(lohk @ Apr 27 2022, 09:11 PM)
Hi All,

Just got new my car last week, direct trade in my old car to Perodua Sales branch. Initially i plan to wait around 1 to 2 months. I was surprise the SA call me my car has arrived just in 3 weeks only.

And for the Perodua Smartlink i google for this app call easy connection apk file version 3.0.3 (both are develop by the same company) and install in my android 11. Its working flawless and can use the Mic button on steering for Google Assistant.

Dont use the newest version 4.0 and above. Its 60mb and buggy.
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Thanks for sharing that tip on the easy conn v3.0.3

Its the first time i've managed a stable connection, but does the app allow maps and waze to work while driving? It wasnt allowed for me.

Also, after i disconnected and reconnected my phone, it became buggy with the constant disconnection.

How are you finding your car so far? I hope yours isnt going to end up like mine, with tonnes of dashboard rattling noises.
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post May 7 2022, 09:17 AM

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did yall know that, all the components behind the dashboard are not covered from the footwell of the driver's side?

if you run your hand down the plastic cover below the steering, you'll be able to reach behind and touch some of these things in the image below.

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post May 7 2022, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ May 7 2022, 09:46 AM)
Were you doing some work with the components there?
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Nope, was just casually touching and feeling the areas around the driver side and then my hand slipped into nothingness when i reached below the steering wheel.

Then yesterday, out of curiosity, i decided to stick my phone up the area. Now im wondering what those brown marks are.

Not sure how i feel about having all of these exposed without a cover. Does feel like a budget move.
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post May 7 2022, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ May 7 2022, 11:05 AM)
Those brown marks are rust at welding areas. Wonder what will happen a few years later with those rust? Hope Perodua will improve on its QC and QA.
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Yea, i was thinking along those lines but didnt want to entertain that possibility.

Quite unfortunate that after all these years, Perodua hasn't really stepped up their game.
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post May 18 2022, 10:06 PM

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All you guys so desperate to get an ativa. I hope y'all would reconsider the low spec Yaris or city.

As someone who has 3.2k on the odometer since CNY, I am somewhat regretting my decision on choosing the Ativa.

The car has wayyyy too much rattling noises coming from the dashboard and the door panels. The suspension is so stiff and the floor has so little noise and vibration insulation materials that the whole car shakes.

The ACC and LKC is so poorly implemented and it's so uncomfortable to use. The headunit is garbage and doesn't even connect to my phone.

Seriously, this car is still so many generations behind a vios or city.
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post May 19 2022, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ May 19 2022, 01:41 PM)
Ed209,
Can explain about the shortcomings of the ACC and LKA?
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ACC is uncomfortable because once the car in front of you starts to pull away, the Ativa's ACC will use a 3k rpm acceleration to maintain the gap with the car in front.

Even if you have a speed variance of 5km/hr Vs your targeted cruising speed, the car will initiate a 3k rpm acceleration.

If your current speed is lower, then perhaps, it will accelerate at 2.5k rpm. Either way, the ACC will always prefer high engine speeds to accelerate rather than accelerating at a more gradual pace.

The LKA jsut loosens the steering up by a bit for no reason. Its very slight but enough for unintentional inputs. You're putting in very slight left turn to center the car, but because the steering is not as tight, you have to counter it with a right turn. In the end, you're just doing a left right left right left right in your own lane for no reason. You can avoid this by being more aware with your inputs, but it voids the purpose of the LKA as a driving aid then, when its really making it more difficult.
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post May 19 2022, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(kausar @ May 19 2022, 01:21 PM)
u pay what u get.... msian like car that has more gadget , lajulaju and cheap cheap.
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no, since all the features advertised are so poorly executed, its equivalent to not having them at all.

its the only time where you really dont get what you pay for.
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post May 19 2022, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(justnits @ May 19 2022, 08:05 PM)
I'm not sure if you have come across this already or not, but seems like there's a DIY method to fix the rattling noise from the dashboard. Taken from Ativa Club Malaysia fb group page.

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Wow, thanks for sharing, ill check if its squeaky around that area.

But i feel as though my rattling noise is coming deeper behind the dashboard slightly towards the center parts of the dashboard.
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post May 20 2022, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ May 20 2022, 08:39 AM)
have u reset throttle position memory before
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No, but what is that? And what will that do?
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post May 27 2022, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Dan_81 @ May 27 2022, 10:49 AM)
Hey all! Has anyone received their car booked in march or April 2022?
Or looks like we are going to wait another 6-12 months?
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Since y'all are so eager to get one, can I sell y'all my car at 72k? Hahah 😬
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post May 28 2022, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(bryan_x00 @ May 28 2022, 10:56 AM)
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post Jun 1 2022, 02:16 PM

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Wow, surprised that Perodua actually called me to ask why i stated on their survey, that i was unhappy with the car
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post Jun 1 2022, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(FrogBlob @ Jun 1 2022, 02:37 PM)
Lol, I commented not happy w their service, and ticked yes on if I want them to call me back, tak call pulak.
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When did you do the survey? I think i did mine a few months back after my 1000km inspection in March.

So it took them a while too, to call me. But i was honestly surprised.

Also, what was very surprising is that they were asking me about wind noise because they received numerous complaints surrounding it and they are doing a survey on that now.

And if i understood correctly, Perodua MIGHT look into a potential solution to this.

Fingers crossed that Perodua is actually that willing to solve issues with the Ativa.
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post Jun 1 2022, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(FrogBlob @ Jun 1 2022, 02:52 PM)
My survey for 10k was last week I think.
Regarding wind noise do you mean the wind noise that come from the rear like a window not closed properly? Driving me crazy.
My complaint with my SC is that I complained my steering wheel sounds like there is a screw loose inside, they helped me replace. But the replaced part is the outer wheel, where the sound is from the center (horn and button area).
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What car do you drive?

Nothing in particular, but they were asking where exactly is the wind noise originating from. But my only experience with wind noise is the expected noise you'd get when travelling on the highways.

I did tell her that road noise was a far bigger issue than wind noise.

Unless there are other ativa owners who are experiencing wind noise thats NOT caused when travelling on highway speeds.

I'm sure they will call you up soon.
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post Jul 22 2022, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(fishmango @ Jul 22 2022, 11:29 AM)
Anyone here own both Ativa and Yaris/vios? Are they on par? Close to?
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Good question. My family has a 2nd Gen Vios and a 5th Gen City.

I drove and sat in the City on many more occasions than the Vios. But i assume both aren't really too far off. The most noticeable is that the Vios's electric power steering is alot heavier than the City.

But anyway, I've mentioned on this thread before that the Ativa is NO WAY NEAR.....NO WAY NEAR as comfortable than the 5th Gen Honda City.

Vibration damping, sound insulation, handling pot holes, driving position, you name it, everything still loses out to the City by a very very high margin.

Not being a Perodua hater, but this is just facts, I am an Ativa owner of 5 months.

The City is already 10 years old and still drives and ride like new, of course there has been some repairs needed. Compared to my brand new Ativa, within 1 month, the dashboard started rattling. And every now and then, I would hear odd mechanical sounds.

Of course, the only aspect where the City loses out to the Ativa is through electronic features. But even this, where the Ativa should hold advantage, a lot of those features fall flat on their face. I've mentioned before, the turbo engine doesn't vibrate as much on idle, but the vibration is more noticeable when driving, which all car reviewers failed to point out. The engine vibration is enough that it can result in dashboard rattling. The ACC is so harsh that as a cruise control lover, I never use the ACC at all. LKC also doesn't do much since its essentially a slightly more proactive version of the lane departure prevention feature minus the visual and audio warnings.

And don't even get me started on the silly in car head unit. Unless you're STILL running android 10 below, or you're extremely lucky, or you have an iphone, you're not going to be successful in mirroring your phone to the head unit.

The Ativa is the perfect car for the marketing and sales department. New DNGA platform, 33% more stiff, ACC, LKC, BSM, RTCA, LDW, LDP, ADB, turbo charged engine D-CVT, Llumar tinting, dash cam, premium bridgestone turanza tyres. A whole long list of marketable features. But when you assess the performance of EACH AND EVERY INDIVIDUAL FEATURE that they promote, every single one of them falls flat to the ground face first.

1. New DNGA platform 33% more stiff: who cares if the ride quality is still poorer than a 2008 City and the plastics used for the interior cabin rattle like marbles in a box.
2. ACC/LKC: ACC is too harsh and almost not usable at all, LKC makes steering looser on high speeds when it should be tighter and heavier for control.
3. 1.0 Turbo Engine: still consumes more fuel vs the myvi engine, unnecessarily introduces a bunch of NVH imperfections into the cabin that was non-existent in lower end cars like myvi or bezza. Torque (not sure if peak) only comes in from 2.5k rpm, which is somewhat pointless since most Malaysians tend to accelerate at that rpm on naturally aspirated engines.
4. D-CVT can still feel like ordinary AT gear box on very low speeds. Every time you move from a standstill at low speeds, you will feel an upshift (yes I know CVT's don't do that but this one does). Because of that, when you're crawling in jams and you're gently stepping and letting off the gas pedal, the car will jerk.
5. Llumar tinting, you will still feel the sun and you will still sweat unless you turn the A/C up higher.
6. Bridgestone tyres: not common and cost 400 per tyre.

Point i'm making here, every feature on the car that was promoted, doesn't function properly at all to the point that the car is essentially a jack of all trades but literally a master at none.

The features are so half assed that it ends up making such a good looking car a half assed car.

In hindsight, if i knew the Ativa was going to rattle like hell, I would've gone straight to a J spec Yaris, which at that time, was selling under MYR 70k.

Bad car to buy, but fucking good car to sell.
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post Jul 22 2022, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(ed209 @ Jul 22 2022, 03:39 PM)
Good question. My family has a 2nd Gen Vios and a 5th Gen City.

I drove and sat in the City on many more occasions than the Vios. But i assume both aren't really too far off. The most noticeable is that the Vios's electric power steering is alot heavier than the City.

But anyway, I've mentioned on this thread before that the Ativa is NO WAY NEAR.....NO WAY NEAR as comfortable than the 5th Gen Honda City.

Vibration damping, sound insulation, handling pot holes, driving position, you name it, everything still loses out to the City by a very very high margin.

Not being a Perodua hater, but this is just facts, I am an Ativa owner of 5 months.

The City is already 10 years old and still drives and ride like new, of course there has been some repairs needed. Compared to my brand new Ativa, within 1 month, the dashboard started rattling. And every now and then, I would hear odd mechanical sounds.

Of course, the only aspect where the City loses out to the Ativa is through electronic features. But even this, where the Ativa should hold advantage, a lot of those features fall flat on their face. I've mentioned before, the turbo engine doesn't vibrate as much on idle, but the vibration is more noticeable when driving, which all car reviewers failed to point out. The engine vibration is enough that it can result in dashboard rattling. The ACC is so harsh that as a cruise control lover, I never use the ACC at all. LKC also doesn't do much since its essentially a slightly more proactive version of the lane departure prevention feature minus the visual and audio warnings.

And don't even get me started on the silly in car head unit. Unless you're STILL running android 10 below, or you're extremely lucky, or you have an iphone, you're not going to be successful in mirroring your phone to the head unit.

The Ativa is the perfect car for the marketing and sales department. New DNGA platform, 33% more stiff, ACC, LKC, BSM, RTCA, LDW, LDP, ADB, turbo charged engine D-CVT, Llumar tinting, dash cam, premium bridgestone turanza tyres. A whole long list of marketable features. But when you assess the performance of EACH AND EVERY INDIVIDUAL FEATURE that they promote, every single one of them falls flat to the ground face first.

1. New DNGA platform 33% more stiff: who cares if the ride quality is still poorer than a 2008 City and the plastics used for the interior cabin rattle like marbles in a box.
2. ACC/LKC: ACC is too harsh and almost not usable at all, LKC makes steering looser on high speeds when it should be tighter and heavier for control.
3. 1.0 Turbo Engine: still consumes more fuel vs the myvi engine, unnecessarily introduces a bunch of NVH imperfections into the cabin that is non-existent in lower end cars like myvi or bezza. Torque (not sure if peak) only comes in from 2.5k rpm, which is somewhat pointless since most drivers tend to accelerate at that rpm with naturally aspirated engines.
4. D-CVT can still feel like ordinary AT gear box on very low speeds. Every time you move from a standstill at low speeds, you will feel an upshift (yes I know CVT's don't do that but this one does). Because of that, when you're crawling in jams and you're gently stepping and letting off the gas pedal, the car will jerk. 110km/hr cruise is still relatively high for CVT at 2.5k rpm. (Note, speedo on the Ativa is overestimated by 5km/hr to prevent speeding fines, so true 110km/hr will result in 2.7k rpm). When driving economically, the gearbox likes to remain at RPMs lower than 1.8k, this is where majority of the engine vibration is felt while driving.
5. Llumar tinting, you will still feel the sun and you will still sweat unless you turn the A/C up higher.
6. Bridgestone tyres: 205mm width is not common and cost 400 per tyre.

Point i'm making here, every feature on the car that was promoted, doesn't function properly at all to the point that the car is essentially a jack of all trades but literally a master at none.

The features are so half assed that it ends up making such a good looking car a half assed car.

In hindsight, if i knew the Ativa was going to rattle like hell, I would've gone straight to a J spec Yaris, which at that time, was selling under MYR 70k.

Bad car to buy, but fucking good car to sell.
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post Aug 30 2022, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Aug 24 2022, 09:52 AM)
i manage to connect my S20 but along the way, it disconnected sendiri and to re-connect its like 50-50

already change 2 cables (both have data transfer and PD), even original samsung type-C also have the problem to connect with Ativa radio

funny thing is, the same cable works for X70 EasyCon functions rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

Not sure why it happen but heard from ativa fb group

the updated version of easycon / carbit release causes an issue with connecting to ativa IFU. Need to download previous version
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The headunit in the ativa is total ass garbage. Some have no issues connecting but some do, some have to install a specific version to work but some will never get it to work.

It all boils down to luck unless you're still on android 10.

If you try asking Perodua to help, they will taichi your ass over to the headunit manufacturer Betamek to make an appointment with them to diagnose.

This is what i dont understand with Perodua, they've had touchscreen headunits since when? Since the 2nd gen Myvi and yet they are still putting shit out on to the market.

Their progress honestly, is really nothing to shout about.

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