I'm currently waiting on my results before going overseas for study, my folks said if my results are good enough and a get a scholarship, the money they saved will be passed to me as cash, they already set the cash aside and they aren't really the stingy kind so that gives me some money for something mucho macho expensive, so instead of doing what most smart malaysians do, like buy ASN2020 or put it an investment scheme, i've decided to buy a fracking new camera to replace my 350D with Kit lense.

The thing is that i'm torn between two models, with very different price ranges and features...so folks, help me choose a new cammy. The most obvious reason i'm sticking the 5D in is because of the FF sensor, which allows me to shoot in low light or darkness without a flash (which i hate), and the fact it's cheaper and comes with the nice L class kit lense. The EOS1D is attractive because to me it's a longer term investment, has weather sealing and alot of soft features, and a new dual DIGIC processor and a host of other pro features, but the matter of the fact is that i get no lense to start with, thus i'll have a really expensive professional body sitting there doing nothing while i cough up the dough. Assume this is going to be a camera that has to last me the next 5 years.

Here's my little list of pros and cons

EOS5D

For

- Full Frame Sensor
- 12.8 megapixels (assuming the same pixel density)
- Smaller body and more transportable
- 24-105L 4.0L Kit lense
- No FOV cropping

Againts

- ISO3200 the max
- Not as many AF points
- No live view
- 3 FPS only (although it doesn't matter much to me
- Cheaper

EOS1D Mark III

For

- Weather proofing
- DIGIC III dual processor and even lower noise
- Very tough body
- Live View
- Longer batt life
- Larger ISO range of up to 6400
- More AF points and better metering and evaluation
- More software features

Againts

- No lense, so buy body, save for lense, probably do narthing until i save money
- APS-H, so there's a 1.6x cropping and there's only 10 megapixelz
- Large and heavy, probably will die lugging the beast around.


So help me choose between the both and provide ye reasons!

APS-H is 1.3x crop factor iirc.
get a 50mm f1.8 would suffice wut.

id hafta go with the 5d because it seems u dont need the 1dMKIII.

nikon d3?? Hehehehe

It's FF n has fps of nearly 1D Mark III. ISO up to 25600. Many AF POINTS. Got live view some more. D3 is like combo of 5D n 1D Mark III

But downside, have to wait lor. Hehehehe

This post has been edited by jeffbong: Aug 27 2007, 03:38 PM

lol very contradict to TS options

Yalah, now he only have 350D with kit lense, still feasible jump ship. Heheheh.

If he has 30D with various lenses, then i would ask him to stay with the white side. Now Nikon come out new one combo of 5D n 1D Mark III, quite a good option i would say so. Heheheh

but he wont be able to get the D3 till next year at least. think malaysia and think of the amount of backorders there will be. production is only 8000 of month...definitely shortages if he doesnt order one now

Never liked Nikon glass due to smaller selection , anyways for an addition in price of the D3 i could get the new EOS-1Ds MK II which is the same.

Plus i'm all for standardizing my kit.

voting for EOS 1D MkIII + 50mm f1.8 (RM260+/-)

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Added on August 27, 2007, 5:44 pmvoting for EOS 1D MkIII + 50mm f1.8 (RM260+/-).

Heck, if you buy the 1D from the shop, you probably can even haggle for a free 50mm f1.8.

This post has been edited by julchin_09: Aug 27 2007, 05:44 PM

@empire 23

Of course the 1D Mark III sounds very appealing but you got to ask yourself is it really worth paying the extra bucks? From what i can assume, the 5D suits you better as you dont have to fork out extra.

would there be posibbility of 5D replacement???

5D is oledi out for a long time, and i think replacement is due.

some of my noobie talk here...

for 5D:
ISO3200 the max, actually is more than enuf, higher iso result in more noise
Not as many AF points, more AF points will easier to let the camera make a mistake when AFocusing
3FPS, if u r not goin to take a lot of car racing then it is ok

for MarkIII:
No lense, save money la.....
APS-H, no 1.6x is ok la, then 10mp enuf for normal usage unless u wanna do studio printing
Large and heavy, i personally like tat feel...

juz my noob talk here...

There's a third unmentioned option of getting two quality lenses (say a 16-35/2.8 + 70-200/2.8) and maybe room to spare for a flash.. I don't know how much these are in ringgit.

So, which one gives you a wider creative palette?

1) Your current 350D + 2 lenses + flash
2) 5D + 24-105/4
3) 1D-iii + nothing

the harsh reality is that if you are not sure if you need it, then you most probably don't need it..

I second wlcling says, If you have to ask on which to buy, you obviously don't need the Mark III.

Are you that serious of using such a big amount of money to buy a Mark III?

That costs close to 16K? Gosh....

Don't you feel guilty of spending that much of money from your parents?

And you're going overseas, which means they're gonna spend even more when you're abroad.

Hey bro, I seriously suggest you to get a 40D or well.... maybe the 5D. Save up the money and use it wisely.

You're dealing with a big sum of money. I could only dream of what you're getting.

Just my 2 cents.

oh oh oh
get the best camera in the world, mk3 and get the worst canon lens ever produced (18-55)

perfect

it's silly...
nothing personal. i will go for the 30d and with the extra bucks, get some really good L lenses... or go for the 5D and get the good L lenses.
what's a camera without lenses?

Bro,
Not sure whether U are taking photography course oversea, or even if you are an avid photographer, 5D is more than enough. Add Tamron 18-55mm 2.8 and a macro ens. It depends on yr area of interest. Spending 16k for mk3 is not worth it, you are not eyeing to join the National Geographic photo team , aren't you? Utilise 100% of yr available cammy ( even yr 350d) and you can shoot like pro. At times, we are too obsessed with gadgets. Check in the western photo mags, i have seen picts taken using old fm2 beat newer dslr... No matter what cammy u are using, timing is everything. Buy the best lens u can afford.
It's yr dosh, but spend it wisely. Dont have to spend a lot, as newer models will come in, and yr cam will always depreciate in value..I U want 2nd opinion, i will suggest to you the d30, grip and L lenses. And buy a 2nd cammy, like g9 so you can ask others to take yr pict when you are oversea...
All the best in yr study ......

stick with 350D, get 70-200 F2.8L IS USM. and a FLASH. and a bag, tripod, monopod. probably set you back only RM 8k. 4k left. get other lens, like a 17-40 and 10-22. not enough? add for 100mm macro lens lor.

still better than getting a 1D right? just the price of that body alone can get so many lens.

alternative body upgrade? 30D / 40D / 5D with a bunch of lens still works better IMO.

It's going to be the 5d if you really want to go FF. Better you spend on quality glass that could last you a lifetime. Looking at the stiff competition emerging from Nikon camp recently, and others likely to try catching up, i would say that in much less than 5 years, the 1dmkIII is likely to be obsolete anyway...

My 2 cents is no need to think about 1dmkIII.... even your avatar suggests you have chosen your poison so don't look back!!!

there's 1Ds Mk III already.