Well, I am really sincerely sorry that I mentioned things that were sensitive to you.     

It was just my 2 cents.

Anyway, all the best in getting a camera.

Hope you can share your experience with us.

Oh yeah, about your gallery? Can share some shots with us?

empire23, really hope you'll get either cam and pair it with a good L lens.

seems to me,  you had some history with empy huh? Other ppl's comments are about some other alternatives apart from the 5D and 1D. I do sense some "personal attack" on empy in your posts.

-happy shooting-

like what i said earlier, i would go for the 30D and some L lenses... instead of 5D with one lens.

true, some people dislike changing lenses and stuffs... i am one of these type of people. all my cameras have only 1 lens attached and nothing more. i find the time spent changing my lenses ar.. let's not talk about me.

empire23, i am sure you had read everything there is to know about these 2 cameras but do bare in mind that photography is not about gadgets and what ken rockwell had said.

i would advice you to go down to the shop and handle the cameras yourself... you might not like the feel of the mk 3 or something like that. before you say you cant find a shop that allows you to do so, do PM me as i know the marketing director of canon (M) behbay!

which ever camera you choose, i am sure they are good. 5D used to be my favourite until the mk 3 came out. like you, i am attracted by the super low noise quality of high iso exposure. but seeing that i dislike digital cameras and the only reason i use it is because of the freelances i had, i have to get myself a DSLR.

for my personal photographs, it's all on large format films. people say that i am an idiot, using films in a digital era... but who cares. same goes to you, if you feel that you really like the mk 3, go for it... but i will personally go to your house to slap you if you use a crappy 18-55 lens on this camera...

It's cool

I just get carried away when people call me a spoiled rich kid because i work hard for the things i want and no to mention i make alot of compromises in my daily comforts for bigger "lump sump" ones like this.
Nvm lah. Done is done.
I noticed the word "large format" before anything 

I actually love the feel of the 30D, the size is just right, but to be honest, besides the higher exposure ratio, and more FPS, it still shares the same sensor as the 350D.

Yeah, no one will let me get mah grubby hands on a markIII, so i'm just conjecturing on how it feels, as in i agak agak.

Anyways, what your general impressions on the markIII? and the million dollar question is, can it beat the 5D when it comes to noise even though it has a smaller sensor?

Good point, but i love shooting in low light without flash, any extra ISO or sensor size appeals well to me and that's why i'm making the switch.

Either way it's a good suggestion.
I'm sure my folks will survive

Like i said, if i wanted to spend it wisely i'd stick in ASW2020 to get a 10 percent divident and a 13.8 percent usual bonus, i'm sure there are times we like to splurge abit.

I can't get a car because i already drive my mom's one like a bat out of hell, RapidKL good enough lah
I can't get house because my old man is the kind that doesn't like his kids moving out early
I can't get a new PC because i just got one

Thus i get photogear. It's either that or i burn the money in front of poor people when i die .

Understandably it's a big sum of cash, but better than some who ask their folks to get them a car right?
I think you wkkay make a good point, the only thing i'm skeptical about is the ability of the existing EOS350D sensor to maximize the capabilities of these lenses, and that's the main reason. After many horrible triages out in the dark even with a tripod and apeture open wide (even with a few HQ borrowed lenses), i find the quality lacking.

I just wish my camera could see as well as i do in the dark, and heck i have astigmatism
No cars for me, the last time i was lent one all i did was drive 240 and above on every highway near my place. I know i can't control myself when it comes to motor vehicles, so i think the bus is better for my long term health. Anyways the 350Z is balls when it comes to handling, far too stiff, far too unfriendly, you'd get bored of it if you were forced to take it out to go giant on sundays to do shopping�

Well, who knows, i'm studying EE, but i'm quite sure it isn't one of those things i wanna do for the rest of my pathetic life, might get more serious as time goes along, although if you ask me at the end of the day, my main motivation is to just get some nice i see into my view finder and keep it with me.

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Added on August 28, 2007, 3:24 am

No worries, except for abstract photography, i do consider myself quite competent with a camera. But there are hardware limitations i just can't get over, especially in low light.

ermm... the new wan is H3 and its 30++ MP.
using a digital back is totally different from using a DSLR

ac98, you're being a d*** and you know it too.

i'll never ever go out take a picture at 4am with very expensive dSLR on my hand. even i go with my friend. Safety first and it's really important thing to think about too.
but i have voted.

I dunno ... if you're taking sides in this matter then I am sorry, I am neutral. You're being very open for an Admin by the way, are you fostering usage of vulgarity in this Forum?

Fine, I admit that I could've worded it more politely.

The fact remains that you're taking this topic out of context. It's clear that the thread starter has a budget, yet you recommended a mind-blowing USD$24k RRP camera. Also, you just had to add the snidish remark "dun tell me he's gonna make his parents spend thousands and STILL stand among us kua ...", didn't you? If you're going to dispense unhelpful advice such as this, why post at all?

Car, bike, house, camera, toys, pet dog, pet cat, no difference ... not your money means not your money.
If you like good quality images, why dun you go for the latest Hasselbald H2D? I have round at it at Sunway few weeks back : Lightweight, 22MP of juice, stands out among the crowd ... who needs a EOS 1D Mark III anyway, even a poor man like me have a used EOS 1D! Go get the Hassy, beat the CRAP out of EOS 5D or ID Mark III N!!

USD 24,000 - Have word with your parents, if you're interested I can ask the  price for you in Ringgit.