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 65" TV Advice 21/02/2021, Not in peace

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post Feb 21 2021, 12:11 PM, updated 5y ago

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so after 3 days of scouting and visiting almost all major electronics retailers in kl, i have narrowed down and also not in peace with my selection. Hope to get some clarity, advice or point me in the correct direction from the sifu's here.

previous model: Toshiba 50" LED (50L2300VM)
Manufacture Year: 2013
Problem Year: 2021 (double image)
To check: RM 150
To repair: RM 500 - 700 quoted by local repair shop - suspect ribbon problem or something. (no panel problem)
To usage years: 8 years

Decided to look for new TV.

Usage requirements:

1. Astro 4K
2. Online streaming
3. unifi Tv
4. Bluray
5. TV is the only source of entertainment in my family.
6. I love watching movies.
7. My viewing distance: 11 feet
8. My parents viewing distance: 23 feet
9. Daytime light is a lot

Specification requirements:

1. 65"
2. 4K native
3. HDR
4. Dolby Audio

Not sure:
1. HDR - 500 nits and above?
2. Dolby Vision?
3. Dolby Atmos?
4. VA/IPS Panel?
5. Get now or wait?
6. 55"/65"/75"
7. of course budget is the deciding factor but to make it simple i cant afford oled price tag of 5 digits. sadly.

From my survey:

1. Samsung 65TU8000 - RM 3,380
2. Samsung 65TU8500 - RM 3,640
3. Sony X8000 - RM 3,860
4. Sony X9000 - RM 6,000 ( bangwall.gif )
5. LG 65UN7400 - RM 3,550

Other brands not surveyed.

Currently learning towards 65TU8500 but the kicker kicked in last minute which was a 75" taking a blind swipe at me and throwing me off focused.
Not satisfied or at peace with all the picture qualities based on my survey.

Kicker:

while chatting up with all retailers, i found some retailers offering a 75" LG - 75UN7200 that retails RM 8K at RM 6.6K.
The lowest managed to chat up is for that 75" is RM 5,600(seems to be the best thus far in terms of offerings compared to any other retailers out there.)
That threw me off focused a bit.
Harvey norman comes in no. 2 with the so called focus campaign where they are offering Samsung TU7000-TU8500 at a good price.

Take note all retailers have their own extended warranty that i need to top up(senheng + 1 year free, others + 2/3 years paid)

So yeah....i hope i haven't missed anything.

The reason i am posting here is my undecisiveness and the "WANT" of having the best movie affordable movie experience.
I know "best" and "affordable" doesn't sit in the same sentence, i guess i am just looking for a reassurance from someone to nail the hammer on the coffin.

appreciate your kind assistance or advice on this matter,

Thank you.

This post has been edited by anonymous4privacy: Feb 21 2021, 12:58 PM
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post Feb 21 2021, 12:24 PM

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Samsung 65TU8500
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post Feb 21 2021, 01:07 PM

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cant go wrong with sony i think..
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post Feb 21 2021, 01:11 PM

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sony menu is super hard to use.
between korean both ok pick the high one since u got budget (long term)
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post Feb 23 2021, 01:44 PM

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You have already pulled the trigger , so there is no point to be obsessed with being right or wrong .

I wouldn't have gone for the same choice the but at the very least , any TV in your list should be a massive upgrade compare with the 8 years old Toshiba .


Note : the X90 is obviously in a different league compare with all the rest , even the price is almost doubled.

This post has been edited by Convael: Feb 23 2021, 01:45 PM
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post Feb 23 2021, 11:27 PM

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have you check LG BX 65” prices?
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post Feb 24 2021, 08:42 PM

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If you want to taste what good picture quality really means...you.might forgot about 65 inch and settle for 55 x9000h instead...just place you sofa closer to the tv ...its a good size upgrade from your toshiba 50 anyway....slow2 upgrade....once you know what good quality tv means, i think you are not gonna be able to downgrade later in the future...but ofcuz if you really2 need a big screen tv and tlyou got a massive living room...then just ignore my post...ahh you can just simply go to sony storr and see for your self x9000h vs x8000h vs x7500h for you self.....and see if the pq worth it or not...
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post May 11 2021, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Feb 23 2021, 01:44 PM)
You have already pulled the trigger , so there is no point to be obsessed with being right or wrong .

I wouldn't have gone for the same choice the but at the very least ,  any TV in your list should be a massive upgrade compare with the 8 years old Toshiba .
Note : the X90 is obviously in a different league compare with all the rest , even the price is almost doubled.
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Say you got 5-6k as yr budget and yr looking for the best 65inch tv you can get. Mostly used for astro / Netflix / Prime with gaming down the line. What would you pick?
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post May 11 2021, 05:41 PM

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I would like to provide an update:

So i have bought a 65" LGNANO79.

It has been 4 months now.

So the following are my user experience:

1. LG WEBOS is absolutely snappy.
2. Magic remote makes a whole load of difference.
3. WEBOS store on LG Malaysia is severely lacking on APPS.
4. Main Netflix, Prime, Youtube is available.
5. Others (Disney+, Hulu, HBO Max) not available.


Before continuing:

IMPORTANT: there is a huge difference in your tv viewing habit. if you are usually watching tv in the day time and your night time viewing is with ambient light or some sort environmental lights ....then edge light led panel is fine.

bear in mind that the panel light spill over is quite obvious in a dark room. when i bought it, i was thinking more of how my family was watching it but then realised how important it was when the night time viewing was significant. not saying that it was terrible but it is noticeable.

on the other hand, the VA panels have a way better black color reproduction and is better at night time viewing.

So as a summary, mid range 65" tv usually comes in VA panel and Edge light panel (usually dual or quad). Samsung is VA and LG is edgelit.

so now comes the deciding factor - WEBOS vs TIZEN. WEBOS wins hands down.

If circumstances were different, i would have gone for a full array led (LGNANO86) which is obtainable if it was not a urgency. one of the most complete tv in the market.

i have came to realisation on how important the idea of having a OLED when it comes to viewing experience. maybe one day in the future i shall get that.

so lets continue:

6. Cant install or sideload apps on webos.
7. no VPN
8. apps designed are native and works flawlessly.
9. smart home functionality.
10. I have bought google tv chromecast 2020 to supercharge my tv and it is also amazing. now its complete. but was it necessary - TRUST ME WHEN I SAY, you wont use it as much as you think you would.

so yea, please do drop me any question and i am more than glad to answer it. after going through so many tvs and researching before purchasing and now being a user for 4 months. it has been interesting learnng curve.

cheers.
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post May 11 2021, 06:06 PM

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Congrats on the 65" LGNANO79 purchase. I too am on the lookout for a new TV and think 65 inches is what I am looking for. Have you tried it with Astro? How does the upscaling look like?
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post May 11 2021, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(goldwave84 @ May 11 2021, 03:28 PM)
Say you got 5-6k as yr budget and yr looking for the best 65inch tv you can get. Mostly used for astro / Netflix / Prime with gaming down the line. What would you pick?
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If you are looking for the best deal , there is this display unit for 65 " Q90R still looking for new owners in Desahome for RM6999 and you can probably get some bargain off it .

Just make sure you get a good warranty period off them .


You don't always need to buy the newest LCD line up as very little has improved in the past few years .


New = marketable . And when it is marketable , it is going to be quite pricey .

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post May 11 2021, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(goldwave84 @ May 11 2021, 06:06 PM)
Congrats on the 65" LGNANO79 purchase. I too am on the lookout for a new TV and think 65 inches is what I am looking for. Have you tried it with Astro? How does the upscaling look like?
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I moved from a 50" to a 65".
I think 65" is a sweet spot.
But after using a 65", I do feel sometimes I could also do a 75".
For now the size is just good till my next upgrade.

It works flawlessly with astro.
My family watches quite a no of channels on astro on daily basis which is just full hd. The upscaling looks natural.

LG seems to have a better color reproduction and hdr capabilities for mid range TV.

Without a doubt lg is a TV to go with. I do not suggest buying a TV with android as its not gonna have on going support after 5 years. Its better and more worth it to have chromecast if.... Iffffff really need it. But from my experience.... I rarely use it.

So at the moment... I am satisfied and feel secure with my purchase.
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post May 11 2021, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ May 11 2021, 07:00 PM)
If you are looking for the best deal , there is this display unit for 65 " Q90R still looking for new owners in Desahome for RM6999 and you can probably get some bargain off it .

Just make sure you get a good warranty period off them .
You don't always need to buy the newest LCD line up as very little has improved in the past few years .
New = marketable . And when it is marketable , it is going to be quite pricey .
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Oh wow, that's a real good steal.
I would have gone for it as I was looking at it. A full array VA panel (note not actually full array as its only 16 zones lit)
Nevertheless, it was a new TV that was in my radar when I was shopping.

The only reason I had a difficult time deciding on Samsung is the operating system, the color reproduction and its upscaling that seems to be too weird for my liking.

Anyone whom can wait, I would suggest to get the MICROLED models that gonna be out very soon.

If can't wait, then these and any current 2020 models are good buy.

Also, something I learned after getting my TV is the idea of getting a full set which includes a soundbar or a sound system. If you already have (I have one. Using onkyo. Old but works) then you are good to go. But if you don't, you should take a soundbar in to consideration. Just saying.
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post May 12 2021, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(Convael @ May 11 2021, 07:00 PM)
If you are looking for the best deal , there is this display unit for 65 " Q90R still looking for new owners in Desahome for RM6999 and you can probably get some bargain off it .

Just make sure you get a good warranty period off them .
You don't always need to buy the newest LCD line up as very little has improved in the past few years .
New = marketable . And when it is marketable , it is going to be quite pricey .
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Thanks for the quick reply!

I've spent hours last night looking at all the reviews as I truly am an "reviews and awards" kinda guy as it helps me sift through marketing gimmicks.

Not been able to come up with a solid conclusion. I like your Q90R suggestion, however it has been run a lot as it's a display model. Great suggestion none the less.

I've been looking at brands like TCL and Xiaomi as both offer 65 & 75 inches. However I can't seem to pull the trigger on it.

I'm in no rush as my current TV is functioning perfectly well abit being only 40 inches. I do have a 50 inch samsung in the bedroom but it does not have astro, unfortunately.

I guess the search continues....
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post May 12 2021, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(anonymous4privacy @ May 11 2021, 07:49 PM)
I moved from a 50" to a 65".
I think 65" is a sweet spot.
But after using a 65", I do feel sometimes I could also do a 75".
For now the size is just good till my next upgrade.

It works flawlessly with astro.
My family watches quite a no of channels on astro on daily basis which is just full hd. The upscaling looks natural.

LG seems to have a better color reproduction and hdr capabilities for mid range TV.

Without a doubt lg is a TV to go with. I do not suggest buying a TV with android as its not gonna have on going support after 5 years. Its better and more worth it to have chromecast if.... Iffffff really need it. But from my experience.... I rarely use it.

So at the moment... I am satisfied and feel secure with my purchase.
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I'm very happy know that the LG upscales well as It's a very important criteria for me. I'm in the same boat about the software as you can always plug in the latest and greatest TV boxes ( I've used Apple TV and Mi Box and my money is on Apple TV if you can afford it) once the original software reached end of life. What is more important is the panel and the color configuration etc etc, the meat of the device, if you will.

On the note of the sound bar, yes totally but unfortunately my TV area is an open space and sound really travels. Oh well, can't do much there.
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QUOTE(goldwave84 @ May 12 2021, 11:13 AM)
Thanks for the quick reply!

I've spent hours last night looking at all the reviews as I truly am an "reviews and awards" kinda guy as it helps me sift through marketing gimmicks.

Not been able to come up with a solid conclusion. I like your Q90R suggestion, however it has been run a lot as it's a display model. Great suggestion none the less.

I've been looking at brands like TCL and Xiaomi as both offer 65 & 75 inches. However I can't seem to pull the trigger on it.

I'm in no rush as my current TV is functioning perfectly well abit being only 40 inches. I do have a 50 inch samsung in the bedroom but it does not have astro, unfortunately.

I guess the search continues....
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I am the exact opposite, I would read reviews to a certain extend only. Numbers matter more than reviews IMO. 😂
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post May 12 2021, 11:23 AM

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I am also searching for 65" as well.

any comment for Huawel Vision S ?
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post May 12 2021, 11:28 AM

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Go for 55" OLED around 6k more satisfy
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post May 12 2021, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Kahlamx @ May 12 2021, 11:18 AM)
I am the exact opposite, I would read reviews to a certain extend only. Numbers matter more than reviews IMO. 😂
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What numbers are you referring to?
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QUOTE(HonMun @ May 12 2021, 11:28 AM)
Go for 55" OLED around 6k more satisfy
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Burn out is something I am worried about. The dream is OLED ofcourse, but that's like the next step.

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