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TSexorthexquas
post Feb 20 2021, 09:08 PM, updated 2d ago

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Hi guys,

I recently pre-ordered RTX 3800 Gigabyte Gaming OC.

Based on research, gigabyte is known for thermal throttle because of bad thermal pads in the GPU.

So i'm not the brightest in watercooling. I'm looking for advice or service for the following.

1 - Thermal pads replacement for GPU

2 - I'm looking to OC the GPU, i'm planning to get waterblock for the GPU. But i've 20% knowledge about watercooling.
I'm trying to watch youtube videos and checking online.

Can someone recommend me a good kit with pump, valve, connector and tubes without cpu/gpu waterblock.
Preferably AIO.

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post Feb 21 2021, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(exorthexquas @ Feb 20 2021, 09:08 PM)
I recently pre-ordered RTX 3800 Gigabyte Gaming OC.
Preferably AIO.
You can't use AIO GPU kit on that GPU because it doesn't have middle plate to help cool the VRM & the memory
Sticking heatsinks on the VRM & the memory is a PITA as they will definitely fall off after some time

You need to go for a full blown GPU waterblock and as such, it's better if you cool the CPU with liquid cooling as well
And don't expect for these to be cheap. At least RM1K for the GPU waterblock, CPU waterblock, fittings, pumps, 2 radiators, tubes & reservoir

You can reduce maybe around RM400 (by removing the CPU waterblock and 1 radiator) if you don't watercool the CPU but to me it's kind of a waste

What case are you using by the way?

This post has been edited by sHawTY: Feb 22 2021, 12:24 PM
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post Feb 22 2021, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Feb 21 2021, 10:52 PM)
You can't use AIO GPU kit on that GPU because it doesn't have middle plate to help cool the VRM & the memory
Sticking heatsinks on the VRM & the memory is a PITA as they will definitely fall off after some time

You need to go for a full blown GPU waterblock and as such, it's better if you cool the CPU with liquid cooling as well
And don't expect for these to be cheap. At least RM1K for the GPU waterblock, CPU waterblock, fittings, pumps, 2 radiators, tubes & reservoir

You can reduce maybe around RM400 (by removing the CPU waterblock and 1 radiator) if you don't watercool the CPU but to me it's kind of a waste

What case are you using by the way?
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Hi Shawty,

Currently i'm using Zeal casing from Aftershock, similar to Antec P120.
I changed the GPU from 2x Gigabyte Gaming OC to the following due to gigabyte bad thermal pads :-

ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 3080 OC 10GB
GIGABYTE AORUS XTREME RTX 3080 10GB

After doing research, i'm planning to do a custom waterloop with the following :-

Bykski Waterblock for ASUS ROG STRIX
Bykski Waterblock for GIGABYTE AORUS EXTREME
Barrow Fittings
2x Corsair XL5 performance coolant ( each CPU has two radiator, inlet and outlet )
4x Corsair X7 radiator 360mm ( Each cpu , top and front radiator )
2x Corsair Hydro X series pump
12x Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM 120mm ( 3 static pressure fan to pull for each radiator )
Thermal Kryonaut for the thermal.
Fujipoly Ultra Extreme XR-M Thermal Pad 17w/mk for the VRAM/VRM

As for tubing, i'm still contemplating whether to go with PETG or PMMA.
PMMA is stronger and have good heat dissipation compared to PETG , and PETG only some coolant are supported.

I don't actually have the tools for PMMA , what are needed for acrylic/PMMA build?

This post has been edited by exorthexquas: Feb 22 2021, 02:13 PM
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post Feb 22 2021, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(exorthexquas @ Feb 22 2021, 01:15 PM)
ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 3080 OC 10GB
ASUSmy doesn't allow their users to remove the heatsink and replace it with waterblock
They will void the warranty for that. If you haven't bought it yet, you might want to look for EVGA, Zotac, Gigabyte or MSI
QUOTE(exorthexquas @ Feb 22 2021, 01:15 PM)
2x Corsair XL5 performance coolant ( each CPU has two radiator, inlet and outlet )
Avoid XL5. It makes my custom loop cloudy just after 1 month
Get EK CryoFuel instead
QUOTE(exorthexquas @ Feb 22 2021, 01:15 PM)
4x Corsair X7 radiator 360mm
2x Corsair Hydro X series pump
Dump these 2 and get the BYKSKI RC series radiator & Bykski & Barrow reservoir + pump instead
You'll spend less money for the same performance with Bykski/Barrow products
QUOTE(exorthexquas @ Feb 22 2021, 01:15 PM)
PMMA is stronger and have good heat dissipation compared to PETG
Tubing has nothing to do with heat dissipation. Where did you get this false information?
QUOTE(exorthexquas @ Feb 22 2021, 01:15 PM)
and PETG only some coolant are supported.
Also nonsense. I've been using EK Cryofuel on PETG tubes for several years now, no issues whatsoever
Also, if this is the first time you're doing a custom loop, you might want to go with PETG instead of Acrylic
Acrylic may look nice but it's harder to bend and a lot of mistakes can happen during bending. Acrylic is also prone to shatter & cracks
QUOTE(exorthexquas @ Feb 22 2021, 01:15 PM)
I don't actually have the tools for PMMA
Are you talking about the bending tools? I don't use any
I only use the heat gun & my own hands to bend the tubes
To me, using my own hands & eyes provides much better results compared to using those bending tools

This post has been edited by sHawTY: Feb 22 2021, 02:34 PM
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post Feb 22 2021, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Feb 22 2021, 02:31 PM)
ASUSmy doesn't allow their users to remove the heatsink and replace it with waterblock
They will void the warranty for that. If you haven't bought it yet, you might want to look for EVGA, Zotac, Gigabyte or MSI
Avoid XL5. It makes my custom loop cloudy just after 1 month
Get EK CryoFuel instead
Dump these 2 and get the BYKSKI RC series radiator & Bykski & Barrow reservoir + pump instead
You'll spend less money for the same performance with Bykski/Barrow products
Tubing has nothing to do with heat dissipation. Where did you get this false information?
Also nonsense. I've been using EK Cryofuel on PETG tubes for several years now, no issues whatsoever
Also, if this is the first time you're doing a custom loop, you might want to go with PETG instead of Acrylic
Acrylic may look nice but it's harder to bend and a lot of mistakes can happen during bending. Acrylic is also prone to shatter & cracks
Are you talking about the bending tools? I don't use any
I only use the heat gun & my own hands to bend the tubes
To me, using my own hands & eyes provides much better results compared to using those bending tools
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But ROG i checked can change to waterblock:
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?1...ds-and-warranty

Bykski radiator or alphacool nemesis ice gtr 380?

Do you know where to purchase bykski radiator? I can't seem to find one in Malaysia CMS.

for gigabyte extreme 3080 its difficult to find the waterblock .
So rog is a big no ?

In that case, ill stick to PETG and get my own heat gun

This post has been edited by exorthexquas: Feb 22 2021, 02:46 PM
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post Feb 22 2021, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(exorthexquas @ Feb 22 2021, 02:43 PM)
But ROG i checked can change to waterblock:
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?1...ds-and-warranty
Here: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4987832
You can ask ASUSmy themselves. That's the response I get when I PM them in Facebook
QUOTE(exorthexquas @ Feb 22 2021, 02:43 PM)
Do you know where to purchase bykski radiator? I can't seem to find one in Malaysia CMS.
Shopee international shipping. You can buy from this seller. I always buy from him
https://shopee.com.my/shop/174219658/

The radiator I'm talking about:
https://shopee.com.my/Bykski-CR-RD360RC-TN-...9658.7149007432
https://shopee.com.my/Bykski-CR-RD360RC-TK-...9658.5151104413

Differences between the 2 radiators: 1 is 30MM and the other one is 40MM
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post Feb 22 2021, 03:52 PM

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EK-Cryofuel:
https://shopee.com.my/-EKWB-EK-CryoFuel-100...7182.1886522714
https://shopee.com.my/-EKWB-EK-CryoFuel-Sol...7182.1623017228
https://shopee.com.my/-EKWB-EK-CryoFuel-Mys...7182.4958810542
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post Feb 22 2021, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(exorthexquas @ Feb 22 2021, 02:43 PM)
In that case, ill stick to PETG and get my own heat gun
It might take some time for you to master the skills of bending using your own hands & coordinating with your own eyes
So make sure you buy tons of PETG tube because you will make a lot of mistakes while learning how to bend correctly

My first time doing watercooling, I've wasted around 2.5 meters of PETG tube (5 x 50CM tube) before I finally get the measurements I wanted
And for PETG tube, just buy anything that's available in Shopee, for PETG tube you don't even need to buy from Bykski or Barrow

PETG tubes are available for as low as RM3.35 per tube in Shopee
https://shopee.com.my/Freeplus.-PETG-10x14m...9207.7070896340
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post Feb 22 2021, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Feb 22 2021, 04:12 PM)
It might take some time for you to master the skills of bending using your own hands & coordinating with your own eyes
So make sure you buy tons of PETG tube because you will make a lot of mistakes while learning how to bend correctly

My first time doing watercooling, I've wasted around 2.5 meters of PETG tube (5 x 50CM tube) before I finally get the measurements I wanted
And for PETG tube, just buy anything that's available in Shopee, for PETG tube you don't even need to buy from Bykski or Barrow

PETG tubes are available for as low as RM3.35 per tube in Shopee
https://shopee.com.my/Freeplus.-PETG-10x14m...9207.7070896340
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I see, i'm planning to also get the silicon bending pipe
https://shopee.com.my/EN-8-10-12mm-ID-Hard-...OxoCt40QAvD_BwE

This way it might help me for bending it. I'm still having second thought of building it by myself or let a pro to build for me with the item i've and pay them for the workmanship.

This post has been edited by exorthexquas: Feb 22 2021, 04:49 PM
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post Feb 22 2021, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(exorthexquas @ Feb 22 2021, 04:46 PM)
I see, i'm planning to also get the silicon bending pipe
This way it might help me for bending it.
That silicone tube is definitely required to avoid the tubes from deforming while heating / bending
It's a good learning experience to build it on your own, but you also have to buy the heat gun & the silicone tube as well

Even expert might make mistakes, I myself still make mistake in my latest project LOL. Will upload some pics later on my latest WC build
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post Feb 22 2021, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Feb 22 2021, 05:29 PM)
That silicone tube is definitely required to avoid the tubes from deforming while heating / bending
It's a good learning experience to build it on your own, but you also have to buy the heat gun & the silicone tube as well

Even expert might make mistakes, I myself still make mistake in my latest project LOL. Will upload some pics later on my latest WC build
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Sure that will be helpful for newbies like me.
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post Feb 22 2021, 08:34 PM

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My latest WC build. Inside Metallic Gear Neo Qube
Just some small changes to my home server

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And my previous builds:
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post Feb 22 2021, 08:48 PM

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By the way, you don't have to spend RM180 for the Noctua fans, just buy the Arctic P12 PWM PST CO (dual ball bearing goodies)
The Arctic P12 PWM PST CO performs at the same level and at certain times better than the Noctua NF-A12x25 as per the YouTube review below

The only downside of the Arctic P12 PWM PST CO is that you can only get it from China through Taobao if you want to buy them RM48 per unit
Shopee pricing for the P12 PWM PST CO is ridiculous at RM72 per unit

Noctua NF-A12x25 RM180 x 12 units: RM2160
Arctic P12 PWM PST CO RM48 x 12 units: RM576

Taobao link: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10....id=583516030142

Very important: Only the CO model uses dual ball bearing. The non CO is using FDB bearing so make sure you buy the CO model



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post Feb 23 2021, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Feb 22 2021, 08:48 PM)
By the way, you don't have to spend RM180 for the Noctua fans, just buy the Arctic P12 PWM PST CO (dual ball bearing goodies)
The Arctic P12 PWM PST CO performs at the same level and at certain times better than the Noctua NF-A12x25 as per the YouTube review below

The only downside of the Arctic P12 PWM PST CO is that you can only get it from China through Taobao if you want to buy them RM48 per unit
Shopee pricing for the P12 PWM PST CO is ridiculous at RM72 per unit

Noctua NF-A12x25 RM180 x 12 units: RM2160
Arctic P12 PWM PST CO RM48 x 12 units: RM576

Taobao link: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10....id=583516030142

Very important: Only the CO model uses dual ball bearing. The non CO is using FDB bearing so make sure you buy the CO model


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ooo, noted on it. Will explore on it.
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post Feb 23 2021, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Feb 22 2021, 08:34 PM)
My latest WC build. Inside Metallic Gear Neo Qube
Just some small changes to my home server

user posted image

And my previous builds:
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You are using 12mm or 14mm tubing?
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post Feb 23 2021, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(exorthexquas @ Feb 23 2021, 12:42 PM)
You are using 12mm or 14mm tubing?
All of my loops is using 14MM. Never 12MM nor 16MM

 

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