BCLK OC is back?
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Jan 17 2022, 12:10 AM
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BCLK OC is back? |
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Jan 17 2022, 01:28 AM
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Jan 17 2022, 09:38 AM
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Jan 17 2022, 10:18 AM
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Jan 17 2022, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Jan 14 2022, 10:51 PM) The Ncase is also works best with a negative pressure setup as there's so many little cutouts and vents here and there on it, so the best solution for a GPU without water blocking it is to buy a 3 slot GPU, deshroud it, and use the bottom fans to force air out of the case through the GPU heatsink. TI suspect the VRM may not get sufficient cooling with this method, but not sure what's the impact on stability will it be. Sorry off topic. |
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Jan 17 2022, 01:23 PM
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My other parts arrive. 12600K + Asus Prime Z690M-Plus D4. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « christina1 and zzzz52 liked this post
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Jan 17 2022, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 17 2022, 12:10 AM) ASRock keeping its SkyOC legacy https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/all-asroc...-lake-cpus.html All ASRock 600-Series Motherboards To Include Base Frequency Boost Support For 12th Gen Non-K Alder Lake CPUs QUOTE Hello, after checking with BIOS department, our 600 series mainboards support BFB, too. Best regards, ASRock Support This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Jan 17 2022, 01:47 PM zzzz52 liked this post
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Jan 17 2022, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jan 17 2022, 01:46 PM) ASRock keeping its SkyOC legacy Sadly, many Asrock boards comes with crap VRM.https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/all-asroc...-lake-cpus.html All ASRock 600-Series Motherboards To Include Base Frequency Boost Support For 12th Gen Non-K Alder Lake CPUs |
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Jan 17 2022, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Jan 17 2022, 05:13 PM) I remember reading about this feature coming back on alderlakes so i assume they all should be getting it as this is more of a mobo setting than cpu's and would be totally up to the mobo makers to put it. With this implementation, AMD would be totally dead in the price/perf bracket... seeing how the 12400 bclk overclocked easily beating the 5800X. While AMD still lansi not dropping their prices. |
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Jan 18 2022, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 17 2022, 05:25 PM) I remember reading about this feature coming back on alderlakes so i assume they all should be getting it as this is more of a mobo setting than cpu's and would be totally up to the mobo makers to put it. I heard AMD ryzen rising prices from 10-30% 😂😂😂With this implementation, AMD would be totally dead in the price/perf bracket... seeing how the 12400 bclk overclocked easily beating the 5800X. While AMD still lansi not dropping their prices. |
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Jan 18 2022, 03:13 PM
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So... my old 3770K desktop seems to have issues with the SATA ports. Got a few BSODs related to the page file, turned out the SATA SSDs were getting disconnected from the mobo. Swapping cables didn't appear to change things. Would using a PCIE to SATA adapter work with the boot drive plugged to it?
QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 17 2022, 05:25 PM) I remember reading about this feature coming back on alderlakes so i assume they all should be getting it as this is more of a mobo setting than cpu's and would be totally up to the mobo makers to put it. I expect them to give up the CPU market this year for everything except 5800X3D until Zen4 comes out, instead of dropping Zen3 prices.With this implementation, AMD would be totally dead in the price/perf bracket... seeing how the 12400 bclk overclocked easily beating the 5800X. While AMD still lansi not dropping their prices. They will chase for profits, and they will make far more cash off Epyc than Ryzen anyway. |
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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Jan 18 2022, 03:13 PM) So... my old 3770K desktop seems to have issues with the SATA ports. Got a few BSODs related to the page file, turned out the SATA SSDs were getting disconnected from the mobo. Swapping cables didn't appear to change things. Would using a PCIE to SATA adapter work with the boot drive plugged to it? Yes |
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Jan 19 2022, 08:06 AM
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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Jan 18 2022, 03:13 PM) So... my old 3770K desktop seems to have issues with the SATA ports. Got a few BSODs related to the page file, turned out the SATA SSDs were getting disconnected from the mobo. Swapping cables didn't appear to change things. Would using a PCIE to SATA adapter work with the boot drive plugged to it? Is all the sata ports on the Mobo acting this way?I expect them to give up the CPU market this year for everything except 5800X3D until Zen4 comes out, instead of dropping Zen3 prices. They will chase for profits, and they will make far more cash off Epyc than Ryzen anyway. |
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Jan 19 2022, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Jan 18 2022, 03:13 PM) So... my old 3770K desktop seems to have issues with the SATA ports. Got a few BSODs related to the page file, turned out the SATA SSDs were getting disconnected from the mobo. Swapping cables didn't appear to change things. Would using a PCIE to SATA adapter work with the boot drive plugged to it? i doubt so.=== AMD, Intel and Nvidia CPU and GPU Pricing Expected to Increase in 2022 https://www.tomshardware.com/news/2022-cpu-...e-increase-tsmc |
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Jan 21 2022, 01:17 PM
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non-Z boards can OC |
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Jan 21 2022, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jan 21 2022, 01:17 PM) When it comes to bclk... i think every single board in the market can OC. It is not that stable for past few intel gen but was still doable for around 3-5% extra. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-co...-10400f/20.html Past intel cpu have this thing called bclk governor. Guess it's been removed. This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jan 21 2022, 01:55 PM |
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Jan 21 2022, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 21 2022, 01:53 PM) When it comes to bclk... i think every single board in the market can OC. It is not that stable for past few intel gen but was still doable for around 3-5% extra. Ya the last time I messed with BCLK was for i7-920https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-co...-10400f/20.html even linus have covered this. Just show how shitty and noob so many other youtube reviews are. Past intel cpu have this thing called bclk governor. Guess it's been removed. But quite unstable coz all clocks including pci will sama-same increase. Edit: after a certain BCLK, tri-channel memory become two-channel This post has been edited by Currylaksa: Jan 21 2022, 02:55 PM |
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Jan 21 2022, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Jan 21 2022, 02:08 PM) Ya the last time I messed with BCLK was for i7-920 Not a problem. Adjust the bclk/pcie ratio. Cpu those era when bclk oc is a thing, can usually handle 200mhz anyways.But quite unstable coz all clocks including pci will sama-same increase. Yall probably came after the era where overclocking you need a calculator and a notebook to count all the freq and multipliers because the bios doesnt calculate for you.... then when tweaking terlupa change one multiplier pc crash, restart cmos then zzz have to set everything from scratch Skylake onwards io and pcie is separated iinm. So alderlake bclk only affects memory, cache and core.. though im not so sure about this. That's why dont see the bclk/pcie ratio settings. This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jan 21 2022, 02:34 PM |
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Jan 21 2022, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jan 21 2022, 02:25 PM) Not a problem. Adjust the bclk/pcie ratio. Cpu those era when bclk oc is a thing, can usually handle 200mhz anyways. lol the good old days...Yall probably came after the era where overclocking you need a calculator and a notebook to count all the freq and multipliers because the bios doesnt calculate for you.... then when tweaking terlupa change one multiplier pc crash, restart cmos then zzz have to set everything from scratch Skylake onwards io and pcie is separated iinm. So alderlake bclk only affects memory, cache and core.. though im not so sure about this. That's why dont see the bclk/pcie ratio settings. |
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