talent lvl1 25k Q crits and 10k+ charge atk on E buff shes so adorable

Nice artifacts there buddy... still farming for mine sadly and RNG has not been kind

Hi. I learn some video that the sweet spot for crit rate and crit damage is 1:2. So that when your criteria damage is 100% your crit rate best go with 50%.

Ideally the best ratio is indeed 1:2, but normally you build up your crit rate first(weapon, sub stats, ascension) and see whether it will reach more than 50% rate, if yes then only go for crit dmg helm. Not the other way around.

yeah it happens, i remember spending a mth+ on noblesse farming, im currently stuck with petra farming for a mth+ as well right now still cant get a proper 2 pc petra up

Wow 60k what bow do you use? Amos?

I used not fully upgraded wandering and got the same amount of dmg. I guess I am going to stick with wandering for now.


Childe c1 is great if you use him as your main dps but personally I would go for a new character. Add more playtime to the game and free standard fate lol

Can't say I like her design nor playstyle but her attack is really amazing.

She's on my list of characters that I'll raise to lv90.

Ganyu reverse melt with Wanderer set is quite high damage with Amos bow. Easily 40-50k on bloom damage. That's what I been using for Ganyu, but currently she is benched since her friendship reached 10.

When you want more crit rate for Hu Tao, but game keep giving me crit damage. This is the 4th feather where majority of the stats went into crit damage. I have from 17% to 25% crit damage feathers.

Btw I see you put i a lot of effort on your channel. Keep it up man... /Subscribed!

Yes.. a basic R1 Amos Bow

No guys, that's not the best ratio. That's the MINIMUM recommended ratio.

50% CR : 150 CD you try an see, that's 1:3 and it's even better.

Once you hit like 70% : 210 CD, wow damage even more.

1:1 could also be 25% CR : 50% CD which is horrible.

In the end 1:2 is the minimum ratio with recommended CR at 50%.

Need not aim for 100% CR but aim for as high CD as you can.

However the thing about CR is also depends on your character. I use Keqing so she slashes like crazy so 60% CR is OK. If you are using Claymore, then the ASPD is less then maybe do consider higher CR.

Currently I only got 2 characters with really got perfect ratio of crit rate and crit dmg.

Ganyu with 70% paper crit rate and 180% crit dmg.

Kewing with 50% crit rate and and 200% crit dmg.

Ohers are either high rate low dmg or low rate high dmg.

Better than mine, I got one only.

Keqing now about 60% : 170%, around 1:3

Still very powerful for now even though not the perfect artifact set for her.

yep, overall shes worth it, i tried doing another 20 pulls to try maybe get a c1, but no luck so stopped

thanks for the support!

to be more accurate, golden ratio is not just about your crit r/d, its also about how much attack you have to even consider min maxing your cr/d, you can have awsome crit ratios but your attack value is below whats needed to max your crit multipliers, its gonna be low too.

showcase numbers and real fights application is different too, as youve stated, the amount of hits to crits affects how much crit.r you ideally need as well. For instance i would never run a burst base Zhongli with 50/200 with low ER on real fights, the odds of making that Q a crit to get your burst value per rotation is pretty low. However if im using Keqing, i can easily just go with a 50/200 ratio no problem as i can easily finish and recharge a full skill rotation in short periods to maximize those values.

But of course theres the option of crit rate foods, some just prefer that while others like me that rather have a more stable crit proc, fine tuning min max ultimately comes down to the players need & preferences.

indeed, burst Q will need higher crit rate. for those non-q dps will be good at 60% CR for my likings (more than half of the time proc). whereby u might only get to use Q for every 10 20 sec....

Her C1 and C2 both very good. Sometimes I saw 5k+ burn damage.

Yup, if ATK not good don't bother.

Same even for Albedo for example, he's based on DEF instead of ATK but CR / CD still applies.



Correct. That's why that 'golden ratio' whatever thing is only partially correct but generally misleading. 1:2 with 25% CR and 50% CD on slow hitting characters is pointless. Might as well (if possible) channel all to ATK and let the damage to high on normal attacks.



I go with more stable proc as well.

Some questions here.

Does 4pcs Noblesse Obliged set from another supporter increases Zhongli's burst? The bonus increases ATK stats like Bennett's Fantastic Voyage, so I guess those 2 buffs doesn't boost his burst at all? Same logic applies on HuTao & Albedo burst? On the subject of Zhongli, I'd thought the 3* Black Tassel with HP substats would be better than some of the 4* polearm especially Favonius Lance & Prototype Starglitter. Should I invest heavily into Black Tassel or use a 4* polearm instead?

For support DPS Fischl, levelling up her E is the biggest priority cause Oz's damage scales significantly with her E levels?

Swirl reactions. When swirl reaction occurs, the aura element or the initial element debuff on the enemy remains there even after swirl has triggered?

i think 4 pcs noblesse increase everyone's atk (white dmg x 20%). thats why it is valuable on support to have it. but zhong li utl based on his hp, so i dont think it works on zhong li

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