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post Mar 27 2021, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(shahrul09 @ Mar 27 2021, 10:19 PM)
is there a differences in premium term that I need to pay for those 2 type?
afaik investment link premium term should be shorter right like 10-20y and the investment acc will cover up after that?
but not so sure about the non investment linked, do I need to keep paying the premium for the whole policy tenure?

and also is there increasement in premium for both product or only one type will increase every 5-10y?

in your opinion which product much better actually.
(yeah I need only life insurance coverage/income replacement etc, not much on investment but if the investment acc can sustain on its own after I retire and I don't have to pay anymore, that would be good also.)
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Investment linked policies do provide coverage up to the age of 100. However, you have the flexibility to decide when to terminate the life policy if you deem it's no longer beneficial for you.

As for term insurance, they are renewable yearly, if you forget to make payment for it, it'll be terminated. Yes, the premium payable will be incremental as you grow older every year.

Sorry, there is really no such thing as "much better" product, the plan should be customized to your current/future need.

I normally consult and understand my clients first before any proposal is made.

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post Mar 30 2021, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(steventyy @ Mar 30 2021, 10:53 PM)
Hi, any sifu can recommend non medical underwriting life insurance?

My wife is SLE patient, rejected by AIA and Allianz for life insurance.

Thanks.
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So far if you want to apply for just life insurance (non-medical underwriting required), there are plenty available.

However, your wife will not be eligible for any medical insurance / benefits.

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post Mar 30 2021, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(steventyy @ Mar 30 2021, 11:02 PM)
Ya, we already give up the medical insurance. Can recommend few good non-medical underwriting life insurance plan?
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You mentioned earlier it was rejected by AIA / AZ, what's the reason given?
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post Mar 30 2021, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(steventyy @ Mar 30 2021, 11:14 PM)
Eh, both agents also just show me a letter said application rejected.
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Age of your wife?

How severe is the condition?
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post Mar 31 2021, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(adey64 @ Mar 31 2021, 12:33 AM)
Any insider can share how insurance know about past medical history if not declared? Eg life insured admitted for minor procedure at Hospital X covered under own company policy  and not declare it when apply for his new personal medical card plan.

Then in the future he admitted to another branch of Hospital X but with his own medical card this time, can the insurance trace his previous admission from the other branch? Is there a database all the insurance companies shares that know about past treatments?
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post Mar 31 2021, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Mar 31 2021, 10:35 AM)
hi allianz agent, what would be the surcharge for monthly/quarterly/half-yearly payment?
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There is no different fees charged in the different payment mode.
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post Mar 31 2021, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Mar 31 2021, 10:07 PM)
Should be old life product. powerlife.
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Hmm such old plan, can't find any details on it. Best to refer to your policy or contact the customer service hotline for the detail
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post Apr 1 2021, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(Tronoh @ Apr 1 2021, 01:06 PM)
do Allianz medi infinite+ cover male-related cancers? saw many insurance exclude this
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Can you be more specific on this "male-related cancers" that you mentioned is excluded ?
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post Apr 1 2021, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Apr 1 2021, 01:47 PM)
please recommend me a yearly takaful medical card (age 42 male non-smoker).
so many products it is confusing
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You mean those by investment linked plans or standalone ?
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post Apr 3 2021, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(neoexcaliber @ Apr 3 2021, 12:37 PM)
Hi guys. I need some advise and a question answered. Long story short, my agent altered my registration form and removed my pre-existing conditions. The agent promised to fix it when I found out while trying to make a claim but then he either quit or got fired and I was reassigned to his boss who isn't helpful. I declared my pre-existing conditions in full when making another claim (not related to my pre-existing condition) and the insurance got back to me with this offer:
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1. From what I understand, the Full Coverage (HealthEnrich Premier) will only cover 50% of all claims, excluding items in the exclusion list. Is this correct? Does that mean it's effectively a coinsurance now?
2. Is it worth continuing this policy or will I be able to get a better deal elsewhere, in light of pre-existing conditions and older age? I'll be 38 this year but the exclusion and 50% coverage while maintaining the premium, which was increased this year, seems hefty. I'm generally healthy without any diseases that require continuous medical intervention or medication.
3. Will the insurance still process my second claim for a procedure not related to my pre-existing condition?
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1. The % shown is the loading (additional premium payable) by the benefits category + excluding the pre-existing illness
2. Subject to the underwriter's discretion to undertake your application.
3. As long as it's not under the exclusion clause
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post Apr 5 2021, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(Lucas0323 @ Apr 5 2021, 10:47 PM)
Hi guys gt myself aia med card recently wanna ask if feel unwell just walk in hospital how can i utilize the card? Must it be admission?
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If you wish to claim with your insurance, it must result as an admission / outpatient.

You can't claim from your medical insurance if:
Hospitalization primarily for investigatory purposes, diagnosis, X-ray examination, general physical or medical examinations, not incidental to treatment or diagnosis of a covered Disability or any treatment which is not Medically Necessary and any preventive treatments, preventive medicines or examinations carried out by a Physician, vitamins/food supplements and treatments specifically for weight reduction or gain.
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post Apr 5 2021, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(Lucas0323 @ Apr 5 2021, 11:08 PM)
Thats for your prompt info. Good enough for me.
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post Apr 6 2021, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Bakagomi @ Apr 6 2021, 01:30 PM)
Any recommendation for Critical Illness and Personal Accident insurance ?

Thank you.
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There are few types of critical illness plans
Ranging from 180 types of CI, multi CI, to accelerated and non accelerated depending on how comprehensive you want and also how much you're willing to fork out in premium.

As for PA there is also a few types 😅

Perhaps you'd like to get a consultation to see what you should get and what is within your affordability?
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post Apr 8 2021, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(tometoto @ Apr 8 2021, 08:28 AM)
Any insurance cover covid 19 for home quarantine/ admit at hospital. No claim but using insurance gl
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Most of the insurance companies will pay provided @ "hospitalisation" means government/public hospitals, private hospitals in Malaysia or quarantine/treatment centres approved by government of Malaysia for COVID-19 positive patients.

However some companies may include this clause : follow the quarantine instruction from MOH to receive treatment and self-quarantine at home (“Home Quarantine”).



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post Apr 11 2021, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Apr 11 2021, 12:46 AM)
To any Prudential agent

Does Prudential branches accepts premium payment by walk-in using credit card?
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Can

QUOTE(ykk3 @ Apr 11 2021, 11:11 AM)
anyone bought Takaful myClick Medicare here> is it guaranteed renewal or is there any better alternative for standalone medical card?
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Non guaranteed as per the photo attached.

What alternatives are you referring to ? be a little specific.
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post Apr 12 2021, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Apr 11 2021, 11:00 PM)
Thanks both

If you know is paywave allowed?

ping325 I will go to the main one in my state so I believe should be ok... but will check nevertheless, thx
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Follow the PayWave guideline which is any amount below RM250 can be transacted.


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post Apr 13 2021, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(Hedgychat @ Apr 13 2021, 01:14 AM)
Hi all! Would like to ask, how do I decide how long should my insurance sustainability period be?
Most insurance agent that I talk to recommend a plan with sustainability until I am age 70, aka same premium until age 70. But I understand that the fixed premium is sustain frm cash value in the investment link product.. And may need to top up if the funds is finish..

Im only 24yrs old now. If I'm confident in doing my own investment, is it advisable for me to opt for maybe shorter sustainability ie until 50 yrs old, so that I pay lower premium, and use the extra amount for investment so that I can afford the higher premium when I extend my sustainability later on?

What are the cons of short sustainability period? If someone can elaborate?
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The purpose of a sustainability period is to ensure that whatever the premium that you're paying for the insurance will sustain until the particular term of coverage.

Based on the average Malaysian lifespan, it's about 76 years old so it's recommended to insure until that age otherwise if you're having plan to pay out for your next of kin at that point of time but your policy had already expired, then it's too bad your insurance policy will not have any payout. From the medical point of view, you'd want to make sure you are covered until that age as well to pay off any medical cost as the older you get, the more health problem you'll encounter and you'd not want to break your bank account which is mostly your retirement money.

With a lower sustainability, you'll have a cheaper policy but don't think that's a great thing because if you choose to top up later at that point of time, you may be required to pay a much more higher premium than if you had started a policy with a longer sustainability and paying a slightly higher premium due to the snowball factor.

You can't cheat the insurance system and there is no shortcut behind them, all of it is already pre-calculated by the actuarial.

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post Apr 13 2021, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Apr 13 2021, 09:34 AM)
Applied insurance and got cancelled halfway. Did every test but when reach to the point where the doctor need to give their report (and the doctor refuse because reason might affect my insurance etc...) ...

I am left with disappointment. I am left uninsured. need advise on what i should do next
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The doctor will not pass you the report, they'll directly send it to the insurance company once you've conducted the test.

From the sound of it, your story is incomplete, it's not possible for the doctor to cancel your insurance application nor refuse to pass your report to the insurance company after conducting the checks required by the insurance company.

However, if what you said is true, you may file a complaint to the insurance company that you've applied with on the incident you've mentioned as these clinics / hospital are appointed as the panel to the insurance company.
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post Apr 13 2021, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Ewa Wa @ Apr 13 2021, 05:31 PM)
You unable to shorten it to 50yo bcoz the new ruling from bank negara. All the companies have to follow this. Either sustain on 70, 80 or 90. So basically all the quotation premium generated from all the companies about or more or less the same.

Or u may opt for standalone medical card and par/non par life &CI which no investment involved.
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You unable to shorten it to 50yo bcoz the new ruling from bank negara

Not true and incorrect.

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So basically all the quotation premium generated from all the companies about or more or less the same

Not true and incorrect.


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post Apr 16 2021, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(kimi0148 @ Apr 15 2021, 10:33 AM)
Hi sifus, I have below policy with monthly premium of rm200 with credit card debit automatic sustain till 70. My question is can i go econnect portal to pay more monthly so that it can sustain longer and maximize rm3k tax benefit? any reason not to do? Thank you!

SMARTPROTECT ESSENTIAL 3 MYR 50,000
SMARTMEDIC XTRA
SMART EXTENDER 90K(R&B150)
IL PREMIUM WAIVER EXTRA RIDER
IL CRITICAL ILLNESS BENEFIT RIDER
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Good evening,

If you're planning to contribute extra every monthly, you would need to get your agent to fill up a form for the top up.

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so that it can sustain longer and maximize rm3k tax benefit?


Normal top-up are not entitled for tax deduction, you will have to add-on/upgrade the existing benefits within the policy to make up the difference.

If you wish to utilized more on your medical 3k portion for tax deduction, you may consider to add-on more on the critical illness or medical card benefit.

That being said, sometimes it's not necessary / worthwhile to spend the extra RM600 yearly to upgrade if it's not necessary or if you have enough insurance already.

Essentially you may be spending RM600 unnecessary for 1% - 25% worth of tax (RM6 - RM150) equivalent of savings. (Depending on your tax bracket)

This post has been edited by lifebalance: Apr 16 2021, 12:28 AM

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