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post Feb 7 2021, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(TOHNO @ Feb 7 2021, 05:00 PM)
Hi Sifus, I'm planning to work as an agent part time.

May I know which agency would work best for a part timer?

I have a flexible work schedule as my full time job hence.

I'm thinking GE ,AIA , Allianz

Talked to GE earlier seems to be decent but I'm looking forward to my other 2 interviews.

I'm looking for
1. Mainly a way to grow since my freelance job is my stable source of income.
2 Learn new skills
3. Looking for a supporitve team
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laugh.gif I'm sure you'll be swarmed with PMs soon for recruitment.

If you're talking about agency, it's best for you to go see their agency and environment to see if it suits you as everyone's preference is different.

Do make sure your recruiter knows what he's doing, some managers just do recruitment but don't really know much about their company products nor teach you properly and just expect sales figure or you're ignored.

Good luck smile.gif
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post Feb 9 2021, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(ahleemaju @ Feb 8 2021, 11:59 PM)
all my cash value in allianz income provider become 0 inside my customer portal, omg!?

is this some technical glitch? anybody else having same issue? it suppose to have rm81k in it.
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smile.gif I doubt 81k will go missing all the sudden, call in tomorrow to check with the customer service.
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post Feb 10 2021, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Feb 10 2021, 08:10 AM)
Any AIA agents here can confirm whether Covid is categorized as infectious disease or not?
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Yes, it's an infectious disease
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post Feb 11 2021, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Feb 11 2021, 07:45 AM)
Because i'm claiming death benefit due to Covid but its under AIA Flex PA.
The agent and AIA says Covid is NOT covered under the 23 infectious diseases mentioned in the brochure, however MERS and SARS (Cov) is in the list, So since the brochure probably was old/not updated im hoping Covid is included.
Otherwise i would only get 10K as opposed as 60K (+10K?) for infectious diseases.
https://www.aia.com.my/en/help-support/impo...ge-no-cost.html
This is the only 10K get for Covid i can claim since it was FLEX PA policy.
Even the hopitalisation benefit not able to claim because AIA says it is only for non-death situation.
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I do not see that it covers/recognize Covid-19 within the policy terms & condition as part of the infectious disease

There is also no extra circular to further supplement the policy's T&C besides the extra RM10,000 that will be paid as per the link of the website.

Cheers.
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post Feb 11 2021, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(clowve @ Feb 11 2021, 02:08 PM)
Hey guys, I'm very new to this and have a few questions to ask.

Some background info: I have an insurance plan that is an "Investment Linked Policy" by Great Eastern Life called "SmartProtect Essential 2". As my mother was the one to secure this for me, I am unsure as to what degree this insurance covers me. The agent that sold this to her is her friend and is chinese-speaking and I am unable to communicate my questions.

Situation: I have a lump that I have found that I would like to get checked out. But seeing as I am very new to all this, I am unsure how to go about this process or if it is even covered by this particular insurance. The condition is suspected to be a sebaceous cyst but I have not seen a doctor about this as of yet as I am unsure how and where the insurance steps in. I am also concerned as I have been told over the phone that this policy only covers "36 critical illnesses" and offers no coverage on "early detection". This worries me.

Questions:
1. Is it possible for process of diagnosis to be covered by this insurance? I'm afraid to be stuck with a preliminary bill prior to actual treatment. Any experienced people, kindly advice.

2. If it is not possible to have the process of the diagnosis covered by the insurance, how do I go about this? Is it possible to go to a GP in say, a small clinic, and then continue onto one of the "Panel of Hospitals"? If the process of diagnosis is not covered, I would like to minimize the costs as much as possible prior to actual hospital admission.

3. What are the necessary information I would need to obtain from the diagnosis phase to progress onto the admission/treatment phase? Which ones will have involvement of the insurance company?

Apologies if these are silly questions to some of you. I am very new to this and the entire process has been such a blur to me. Hopefully some of you will be able to help shed some light and guide me.
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Depending on what rider you have within the policy. If your insurance policy comes with a hospitalization and surgical benefit, you're entitled to claim for the removal of the sebaceous cyst along with any follow ups.

Critical Illness benefit only pays in the event you are diagnose with a critical illness, not due to a sebaceous cyst which is really a minor operation to remove it.

I've done this claim before

The process is as followed.

You can directly see the general surgeon in the hospital to get it diagnosed. If it's indeed just a sebaceous cyst, they can tell immediately or refer to their other colleagues in other specialize area immediately than a GP could.

Then you can get them to fix a day for you to remove it while also letting the nurse know that you want to claim from insurance, they will then check with your insurance company to prepare the guarantee letter to cover for your day care surgery.

You can keep all the receipts incurred prior to admission and on the follow ups thereafter to claim back with the insurance company.
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post Feb 18 2021, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(ahleemaju @ Feb 17 2021, 10:16 PM)
hi, would like to ask:

i just insured under this product

https://www.allianz.com.my/allianz-1cover

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but then i receive my policy few days later and it have pages like this
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application was done using zoom, and agent show me 'questionnaire' section that was grey out. (but i dont have the recording as proof cause agent send me an audioless recording that also miss out the application stream)
should i concern bout this?
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This is a non medical underwriting plan thus the questions were not required to be answered.
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post Feb 18 2021, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(ahleemaju @ Feb 18 2021, 12:52 AM)
yes I know, and no medical underwriting is the one I wanted.

I have insured few other insurance companies with same type of product, all of their policy have no include questionaire section except allianz.

why still include why no question asked during application,

im worry allianz might use this to reject my claim in future.
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It's a auto generated template by the system.

If you are still doubtful, feel free to cancel the policy and get back your money which is your right.
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post Feb 18 2021, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(pharaoh5312 @ Feb 18 2021, 06:09 PM)
Hi sifu, really new to this so sorry if I sound very stupid (because I am lol)

I'm 24 and wish to buy a medical insurance very soon. I have a few concerns that I would like to be cleared:

1. Which company in the big three (Great Eastern, AIA, Prudential) or any other companies has the easiest claim policy and no drama and no fuss on unable to claim stuff like that. Plus which has also the most hospitals that accept their medical card. Assuming all the other confounding variables that may affect this are standardised/ignored. (example of confounding variables: type of plan i might get, cheap or expensive plan)

2. Do you think if it is worth it to include "critical illness" and "waiver of premium" in the plan? And if I already have the "critical illness" plan should I still get a life insurance?

3. Should I do a full body checkup before I sign up for a medical insurance plan? Or should I not leave any record in any hospitals so that the company won't be able to dig them up  brows.gif

Thank you sifus. I'll appreciate any help
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1. You can't go wrong with any of these 3, difference is that they offer different product features so depends on what you at looking to cover.

2. Again depend on how comprehensive you would like your insurance to be.

3. Depends if you have any pre existing sickness or you've applied for excessive amount of insurance.
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post Feb 18 2021, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(ahleemaju @ Feb 18 2021, 10:06 PM)
thx for your reply
it's made clear on the product page, but not in policy. can i use the product brochure as my backup if anything unpleasant happened?
i asking here wonder if anybody else have similar experience of blank answer on health question section, what does it indicated?
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The policy contract that you screenshot has a section where only questionnaire applicable for this 1Cover plan is needed to be answered.

It'll supersede the general template that you've shown.
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post Feb 18 2021, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Feb 18 2021, 10:24 PM)
I cannot give unbias comment. That's why i didnt answer your 1st question. Hahaha... all selling apples and oranges...

But all 3, same same la. You just see which agent you likey...
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laugh.gif it's not really the "same", the plans offered does have some differentiation.
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post Feb 19 2021, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(Ewa Wa @ Feb 18 2021, 11:19 PM)
Few points to look into:
1. Which company cost of insurance lower in quotation.
2. Which company claim ratio lower to cut down the frequent of repricing.
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1. Cost of insurance is not guaranteed, how are you going to make sure it stays the same?

2. Kindly share how you obtain such data, I'm very interested to know.

QUOTE(ahleemaju @ Feb 19 2021, 06:19 AM)
erm, which sentence u meant?

thanks
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It's a form, you'll have to search within that soft copy you've received.
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post Feb 19 2021, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Ewa Wa @ Feb 19 2021, 10:20 AM)
1. agreed that cost of insurance is not guaranteed but each company cost of insurance for medical card is not the same. Do refer to the quotation from each company then u will know.

2. The more claim a company made obviously the chances of insurance repricing happen very frequent. no date shown but is a common sense. up to everyone in the forum to take this point or ignore when choosing their desire insurance company.
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doh.gif so you gave a pointer

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Few points to look into:
1. Which company cost of insurance lower in quotation.
2. Which company claim ratio lower to cut down the frequent of repricing.


Without giving a solution on how people could obtain such info/data on which insurance company has a lower claim ratio but to use common sense hmm.gif

That being said, claims are subjective, how are you going to say "Company A" is going to have more claims in 10 years time than "Company B" ? if there is such certainty, you're better than a fortune teller to be able to find that out.

Company A/B/C/D which has lower claim ratio now doesn't mean in the future it's claim ratio will remain low.

But I can say that if Company XYZ has programs that encourages its policyholder to exercise and be rewarded for staying healthy thus lowering the claim ratio. Hence the reason why AIA has AIA Vitality that their policy holder can subscribe to and be rewarded for staying healthy while the insurance company also enjoys lower claim ratio in the long term.

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post Feb 20 2021, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(ivych @ Feb 20 2021, 07:54 AM)
hii do you know any good insurance plans that cover pre existing conditions/illnesses? google isnt helping much:(
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If you're referring to medical benefits that will cover pre existing illness, the answer is none.

If you're saying you would still want to buy some insurance even if you have pre existing illness, there are some plans currently in the market that will cover for Death benefit even if your health record book is not superb. However this is not applicable for medical benefits.
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post Feb 26 2021, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(prescott2006 @ Feb 26 2021, 09:50 AM)
Hi, currently my wife is having second baby. Want to ask what is the best value insurance to buy for the baby?
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For a pre-born, I'll recommend Prudential as it has the best coverage & pioneer in that category compared to other insurers
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post Feb 26 2021, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(prescott2006 @ Feb 26 2021, 12:06 PM)
Should I buy now or wait after deliver?
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Recommend to buy now if you want to enjoy the pre born protection.
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post Feb 26 2021, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(ping325 @ Feb 26 2021, 12:26 PM)
other sifu may add on your advise? of course purchase during pre-born is better , but also it costs more
how to assess or how much you willing to take the risk is really up to your budget
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In my perspective on your assessment, you did not bring up the other benefits that will come along with the policy besides the pregnancy benefit.

The baby will essentially be getting the following benefits @ RM188*
1. Infant Care Plus
2. Essential Child Plus
3. PRU value med
4. Acci Guard Plus
5. Acci Med Plus
6. Payor Basic & Saver
7. Parent Payor Basic & Saver
8. PRU saver kid

If you're purely assessing that paying RM200 monthly for X amount of months result in no claim on pregnancy complication, a layman would view it as an absurd amount to pay vs the benefit that it's getting from just one benefit (Infant Care Plus).

However, you're not giving the full picture on what you've describe to the questioner.

Then again, getting the insurance for the pre-born is just in-case the baby is born with any complication or health condition which may render it unable to get covered in the future if they're born with congenital defects. But if saving RMx amount could be trade off for the peace of mind that you need to pay for hefty long term medical bills in the long term, it's up to the person to think and decide if it's worth it.

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QUOTE(fast_coder @ Feb 28 2021, 11:20 PM)
Have just done a self-review on the policies bought and there is particularly one that I think needs to be updated and would appreciate it if fellow sifus can shed some light on this.

I currently pay 7.4k per year for a participating policy (Allianz PowerLife) with the coverage of Life 250k, TPD 250k, Critical Illness 150k.
I am now considering surrendering this and replace it with term insurance with higher coverage. I am now more inclined towards a term policy as I am looking purely for protection purposes.

Comments?
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Term policies will have a limitation of maximum 500k coverage.

It shouldn't replace a whole life / investment link policy as it's meant to be a term coverage where you would like to have a higher coverage for a fixed period which you can't renew once the period has expired.

If you're just looking purely for protection without any other elements then you're right to choose the term policies however it has its limitations.
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post Mar 1 2021, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(james.6831 @ Mar 1 2021, 02:44 PM)
I'm 33..paying about 350/month for 160k life insurance, 500k annual limit for medical, 150k critical illness and 300k accident p.a dunno wat...
is that normal? average?
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I can say no one can really tell, there are other factors to consider such as
1. When the policy was bought
2. What are you comparing as an average ?
3. The purpose of buying the coverage in the first place

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post Mar 3 2021, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Quidditch93 @ Mar 3 2021, 10:37 AM)
Hi, is it normal for insurance to revise the Tabarru contribution?
I took A-Plus Med-i from AIA. they increase the amount of RM32  rclxub.gif
I just subscribed in 2019. Can recommend should I continue or change to other policy? Thanks
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Normal.

This applies to all the insurance policies out there, question is, will contributing extra RM32 monthly be detrimental to your cash flow?
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post Mar 4 2021, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(strategist @ Mar 4 2021, 07:31 PM)
I am with Prudential investment-linked policy. Been with for a few years now.

If I want to change it to non-ILP , what prices I need to pay?

Do i need to start over and pay commissions all over again? I am almost done with paying commissions past the 6 years
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You can't really change, you're basically buying into a new plan.

You're paying a set premium as describe by the insurance company brochure for a non-ILP, whatever the commission is between the insurance company and the agent. But that shouldn't be a concern in the first place.

It'll be weird for you to downgrade to a non ILP tho. Whatever your motive is.

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