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 Insurance Talk V7!, Your one stop Insurance Discussion

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post Mar 5 2021, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(sunshines71 @ Mar 5 2021, 11:45 AM)
Hi everyone,

I'm a silent reader and now wanting to get a medical insurance coverage for myself. I've gone through Fi Life package which seems to provide good bed and board rates of RM500/night with annual fees of only RM1k++. Anyone has tried to claim or use Fi Life before? Appreciate your input here.

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smile.gif it's an online fintech website run by an insurance agency. (This is not exclusive and any AXA agent is able to sell it)

The plan that you've mentioned is from AXA SCO+.

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post Mar 5 2021, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(mikhailcbh @ Mar 5 2021, 02:41 PM)
Anyone using Allianz Medical / Life insurance? Have you guys received the premium received statement?
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post Mar 7 2021, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Mar 7 2021, 12:07 AM)
My 10 years MLTA going to expiring soon, still have hefty amount of housing loan, was thinking shall I renew MLTA or just online purchase term life insurance will do? Objective is to spend minimum premium while maintaining the house for elderly parents with zero income and no EPF.
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If you can renew it, why not?

QUOTE(KopiMalaysiano @ Mar 7 2021, 12:17 AM)
who claim money for me if i die already and no insurance man to settle payout
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You'll need someone to file in a death claim so make sure to notify or leave behind some details on which company your insurance policy is with for them to file a claim if they are the nominee.

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post Mar 8 2021, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(daidragon12 @ Mar 8 2021, 07:10 PM)
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Any prudential expert here?

My bro claim was rejected on the basis he was not admitted to gov hosp, but to quarantine centre. It is not his choice where he was sent to.

Any way can appeal this case? Pretty disappointed of this rule and he never claim anythg in the past 7 years oso.

Recently i was admitted because of back pain during lifting heavy object and the claim was denied too. I got all the relevent docs from the hosp. In my 9 years of paying the premium, the only thing i claimed was dengue fever which costed me RM600.
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Kindly refer to the FAQ, https://www.prudential.com.my/en/our-compan...id-19-coverage/

and the list of hospital accepted under the fund. http://covid-19.moh.gov.my/garis-panduan/g...es_COVID-19.pdf
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post Mar 8 2021, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(daidragon12 @ Mar 8 2021, 08:40 PM)
Yeah, he is ok and was only having fever and loss of taste.

While i understand the argument, i feel that many providers can offer reward to those are taking care of their health. Similar to car NCD perhaps. I refrained from smoking, alcohol, bad air, food, plenty of exercise etc. Yet my friends with bad lifestyle benefit the most. That is why i was disappointed when my 1st ever claim in 5 yrs was rejected, despite the bill was less than half my monthly premium. I feel they should take a look at my history and know i’m not faking my accident.
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There are insurance company out there that does reward their policy holder if they maintain a good health I.e exercising, not smoking or do regular check up.

In return they get premium rebates, free higher insurance coverage, waiver on deductibles or even weekly free vouchers.

I'm sure the stipulated T&C is there for some reason hence it was rejected as it didn't meet certain requirement. Perhaps you can appel if the reason was that he was sent to a quarantine center due to the hospital is full house and see what they say.
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post Mar 9 2021, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(overlandpark @ Mar 9 2021, 11:25 AM)
Hellooo!  biggrin.gif Newbie here...salah silap tolong maafkan ya.

Just want to ask if anyone of you have heard of AXA eMedic? My cousin recommended it to me and it looks pretty good to me.

Major plus point is it's quite affordable lah - though the annual limit not very high.

This is the website he sent me: AXA eMedic
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If the coverage offered is what you need. Why not?
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post Mar 15 2021, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(kumarz84 @ Mar 15 2021, 04:54 PM)
can sumone suggest me insurance for 1 year old and how much eill be the cheapest premium and what will be the coverage like?
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Cheapest premium normally falls under term insurance category which doesn't involve the element of investment.

Premium can be start RM800 yearly for a 100k coverage.

Alternatively if you're looking for a more comprehensive coverage (if you have a higher budget), you can apply for an investment linked policy which you may add on other useful rider such as a Payor waiver - in the event the parent who is paying for this policy dies, the policy premium is paid by the insurance company until the age of 25.

Premium starts from 188 monthly onwards

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post Mar 17 2021, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(guanteik @ Mar 17 2021, 08:35 AM)
Hi Everyone:
I have a question on the Allianz Insurance. I bought some products like Powerlink, Premierlink that came with investments. However, looking at the statement that I am trying to find what's the annual return for the investments/funds. Any agents can share with me how do I see this in the statement?

For insurers, before we even buy that policy, we were told there's a guaranteed return of 2.5%, however, this amount is nowhere listed in the yearly statement. Please enlighten me.
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You will not see it within your statement.

You'll need to refer to the fund that you've selected within your policy and look into their YOY performance return

There is no such thing as guaranteed return of 2.5% for PremierLink and PowerLink so I'm not sure where you got this idea from.
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post Mar 17 2021, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(guanteik @ Mar 17 2021, 09:35 AM)
Thanks for the information; in fact my memory served me wrong, there's no such thing as guarantee returns after reviewing the policy again.

Unfortunately, with this high premium I am paying for Allianz insurances (8 premiums for 4 persons!) but getting horrible returns is something I want to get rid of.

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Insurance with investment-link plan are not meant to give high returns compared to a pure Unit Trust Investment as the insurance company would charge some cost towards your policy before the balance is being invested.

You should look into the protection provided more. The investment within the policy is for the purpose of sustaining the policy until x Age.
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post Mar 18 2021, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(mycolumn @ Mar 18 2021, 01:09 PM)
Hi, I wanna ask, for e-medical card, how do i go about this? Let's say need hospitalization; I just tell the hospital that I have insurance? Or do I need to print my e-medical card and keep it with me always?

This is for Prudential.
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You can mention your NRIC number or download the Pulse app
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post Mar 19 2021, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(mycolumn @ Mar 19 2021, 06:56 AM)
If i recall correctly, my agent told me that for prudential, yups, within the first 4 months i have to pay first and then claim later. After the 4 months, then during admission, have to pay rm500 deposit first and when discharged, rm300 out of the rm500 will be paid to prudential.
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The first 4 mths is the waiting period. Thereafter you're covered fully for your medical benefits.

The RM300 is the deductible within your plan.
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post Mar 22 2021, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(ragk @ Mar 22 2021, 05:32 PM)
I have a protection plan from AIA (A-Life Signature Beyond), it cost me 1.3k per month, already paid for around 2.5 years.
Recently i review my financial status and i realize the cost of this plan was build up from A-Life Signature Beyond-RM555 + A-Plus CriticalReset-RM759 per month.
The initial motive i bought this plan was for the 500k protection (A-Life Signature Beyond) for my family, i do aware i have the reset plan, but i didn't aware that it cost more than my main protection.
So it came to my mind to cancel this plan (i dun mind the sunken cost) and go for pure protection, because 9k per year just for reset is too much imo.
But on 2nd though, i already paid for the 2 years 50% premium, if i continue to pay what im paying now, but withdraw 9k from my account every year, will the the reset plan still sustain? Is this approach possible instead of cancelling it?
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Oh I'm quite surprised that you've only noticed this 2.5 years later (but it's never too late).

Depending on the cash value within the policy, it may not sustain long as your policy is still very young, the rider will still be there until your policy account value is RM0.
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post Mar 23 2021, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(ragk @ Mar 22 2021, 06:13 PM)
ok understood, thanks!
Yes it's an additional protection, if i understand correctly, the reset grant me protection twice (which mean i still entitled for protection if 2nd illness were discovered). But the reset payment alone is more than my main plan.
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if you think that you don't need the critical illness coverage at this moment, you have an option to
1. Reduce the CI coverage to a lower amount
2. Remove the CI Coverage totally

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QUOTE(ragk @ Mar 23 2021, 10:44 AM)
A-Plus Critical Reset is not really mean for CI coverage right? As i understand the main purpose is to reset the coverage if u have been diagnose of CI the 2nd time.
A-Life Signature Beyond it self already has CI coverage no?
But paying reset with price higher than my main plan is weird, i might as well buy 2 plan and its still cheaper.
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The "Critical Reset" is the CI coverage which also includes a reset feature that is payable for cancer, heart attack and stroke.

it's an all-in-one rider. You don't have an option to nit-pick certain features to maintain tho, it's either you take or drop it entirely.
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QUOTE(Macam Yes @ Mar 23 2021, 03:15 PM)
Hi, Manu Secure & Manu Wealth a good insurance cum saving plan ?
Any pro can describe more?
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What's your goal ?

QUOTE(ragk @ Mar 23 2021, 03:19 PM)
Through the provided linked i found my plan
https://www.aia.com.my/content/dam/my/en/do...ct-brochure.pdf
So my main plan doesn't cover critical illness... If that's the case im fine to maintain my CriticalReset plan...
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Just out of curiosity, im non-smoker, never admitted to hospital b4, bought my plan at 30 age
the example cost in the brochure is way cheaper than mine (30 y/o 15.8k vs 40 y/o 9k), what cause the huge different here? Because my plan cover to 80 y/o?
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I don't think you understand what you've bought.

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this is a clear cut illustration on the benefit's payout on the CriticalReset.

any idea why you're not asking your agent to explain to you?


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post Mar 23 2021, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(Macam Yes @ Mar 23 2021, 03:58 PM)
high return saving plan bro
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All insurance products are illustrated @ Low 2% and High 5%

Bear in mind that you're required to stay throughout the entire term of the saving plan (Ranges from 15 - 35 years) if you want to see at least 2 - 5% return otherwise you'll be getting less than that after deducting all the cost. If you're looking for liquidity then putting your money in insurance saving plan is not ideal.
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QUOTE(Macam Yes @ Mar 23 2021, 04:20 PM)
But this manu secure & manu wealth looks attractive

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Do take note that this is payable based on the annualized premium,

Here’s a quick example:

If you purchased ManuSecure 5-20, you will receive payments equal to 11% of your basic plan’s standard annualised premium for the first ten policy years. With an annual premium of RM10,000, this GCP payment will amount to RM1,100 per year.

This then increases to 20% – which amounts to RM2,000 a year – for the remaining ten years of the policy.

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QUOTE(ragk @ Mar 23 2021, 04:35 PM)
I know i have CI coverage, but misunderstood on the combination
i tot my plan is A-Life Signature (Accident + Death + disablility + CI) + CriticalReset (Reset only), but actually is A-Life Signature (Accident + Death + disablility ) + CriticalReset (Reset + CI)
usually i like to ask around, whos know what she might hiding from me, and also getting different opinion from diff ppl often giving new insight  biggrin.gif
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Looks like you got it right smile.gif

Sure, feel free to ask
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QUOTE(Macam Yes @ Mar 24 2021, 10:49 AM)
Wonder how much medical + CI cost now?
How much Annual limit is good enough?
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Depends on the person's age, gender, occupation, smoker status and the benefits you're applying for.

How much annual limit is good enough ? It's a personal preference, insurance companies offers from RM25,000 Annually up to RM3,000,000 Annually.

If you can secure somewhere at least RM500,000 Annually, that would be the average to cover most of the hospitalization cost. Most companies offer newer plans starting from RM1,000,000 Annually nowadays.
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post Mar 24 2021, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(Macam Yes @ Mar 24 2021, 11:16 AM)
Start from 1mil? Roughly how much ya monthly
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What's your age, gender, occupation, smoker status?
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QUOTE(shahrul09 @ Mar 27 2021, 10:01 PM)
guys, want to ask, usually life insurance with investment linked and non investment linked, got huge premium differences ka?
try to get Etiqa life insurance but my medical card agent push only the investment linked one. without telling me the non investment one after asked.
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The premium will be different for investment linked as you're able to add-on more benefits compared to a term insurance.

Not only that, you'll be contributing extra as part of the premium will go into buying units of investment within the funds offered by the insurance company.

Whether the premium is "huge" difference depends on the benefit that you've included as well as the sustainability that is included.

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