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post Jul 3 2021, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(z800r @ Jul 3 2021, 06:44 PM)
Hi. Need a suggestion for medical card + critical illness + tpd.

At the moment i already subscribed w a cheapo medical card that covered up to max 150k per year. With the cost of everything gone up, so i think i need to get a better ones w a better coverage.

Anyone can suggest me which one is good.

Also, better if the plan can be applied online. Looking at manulife manuez-med now. Prudential must get an agent to ask first/ get quotation. Etiqa too can be applied online
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QUOTE(z800r @ Jul 3 2021, 09:31 PM)
I bought the medicard from online too. So i dont have any agent. And the 150k already max limit for the package.

So i think its better if i change to other medicard provider with better coverage and add on critical illness and tpd as well.
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You can only get Investment linked policy that offers comprehensive coverage (Life/TPD + CI + Medical) with insurance agents and not through online portals.


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post Jul 4 2021, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jul 4 2021, 05:22 PM)
Do insurance companies need to go to such extend to sell 1mil-3mil annual limit ?
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QUOTE(onthefly @ Jul 4 2021, 05:38 PM)
they said medical cost increase, to counter inflation in the next decade, etc
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If you compared with the last 30 years medical policy, the coverage were around 10k to 100k on annual limit. Lifetime limit were imposed up to 3x of its annual limit.

But if you ask today, would those policy be suffice? If you're down with a long term illness, I.e kidney dialysis; perhaps a major surgery?

The purpose that the insurance do offer such higher annual limit is to take consideration of medical inflation over the next 20 years should you intend to hold onto it or depend on it for long term if you've already succumb to Illness.
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post Jul 5 2021, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(cfc @ Jul 5 2021, 02:14 PM)
hi guys
i helped my dad submit for a new insurance.
insurance compony requested a blood test report and he had some "H" in lipid profile tests. Currently not under any medication though.
total cholesterol : 5.8 (<5.2)
Non HDL
LDL

With that underwriter has decided an excursion clause on "hyperlipidemia and its related complication". I think the scope is too big, would like to get some advice on what I should be expecting with this excursion ? Any chance to get rid of this in the future ? Thanks a lot.
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1. You can get the agent to appeal if you think it's not a fair exclusion
2. Apply with another insurer
3. If the reading can be reduced in the future, you may request for the insurer to reassess base on his latest health report.
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post Jul 6 2021, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(geekoC @ Jul 6 2021, 03:18 PM)
Hi all, would like to seek your advice for CI (preferably with early CI coverage) as standalone CI is quite expensive. Looking to cover till 65/70YO. Currently I have sufficient life insurance, so wondering what options are there for CI. AL about 500k to 1mil, age 39,WFH. Thanks
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What do you mean by AL?

How much are you looking to cover?

What's your annual income and expenses?
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post Jul 6 2021, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(aronron33 @ Jul 6 2021, 03:44 PM)
Currently is 28 years old, working low risk job, non-smoker. Need some advise on which medical card should i take? standalone or ILP? and how to know the standalone or ILP medical card is guaranteed renewal? is it stated somewhere in policy?
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If you're looking for comprehensive coverage then ILP.

Otherwise if you have no budget or just looking for medical then a standalone.

It's noted within the policy & brochure on the guaranteed renewal.

I won't be able to advise much as I don't know much about your personal finances.

QUOTE(geekoC @ Jul 6 2021, 03:48 PM)
AL= annual limit
coverage for about 500K to 1 million?
left about 1-2k after minus expenses, commitments etc
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I see, what you're referring to is a hospitalization & surgical benefit as Critical Illness has no "annual limit" but only the amount of payout that you've bought for the plan.

There are a few types of early critical illness plans available for early CI namely.

Early CI - Payout only once for early stage

Multi Early CI - Payout for multiple early stage of CI

If you're looking for a comprehensive coverage for yourself then the proper way to do it is to consult a financial adviser or insurance agent to determine what is the right amount of coverage is suitable for you and what plan are available that can match your budget.

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post Jul 6 2021, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(aronron33 @ Jul 6 2021, 04:04 PM)
Let say if i get standalone medical can i add on something like CI?
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Nope.

You'll have to buy it separately.
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post Jul 6 2021, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(geekoC @ Jul 6 2021, 04:30 PM)
Could you suggest some plans? actually im specifically looking for CI, but i understand that ILP+ rider CI is cheaper with better coverage. Would like to know if there is any product with minimal ILP?

Any thoughts on A-LifeLink2+ A-Plus Beyond Critical Shield & A-Plus Beyond Early Critical Shield? Currently I have A-LifeLink, is it the same as A-LifeLink2?

Thank you very much for your replies
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A-LifeLink is the first version, the latest would be A-LifeLink 2.

Yes, within the ILP, you can choose to have minimum Death/TPD sum assured (Normally 5,000) while the balance you can put into the Critical Illness coverage.

A-Plus Beyond Critical Shield and Early Critical Shield are both separate riders to cover Late & Early Stage.

If your aim is to cover both. I would advise to get the multi critical illness as the premium is just slightly a little more but you'll be able to enjoy the benefit on multiple CI claims in the future.

There are a few companies that offer the Multi CI coverage

Hong Leong - 180 CI Care
Prudential - Total Multi Crisis Care
AIA - A-Plus Multi CriticalCare (not on early stage)
GE - Smart Multi Critical Care

I can show you the comparison but not here. wink.gif
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post Jul 7 2021, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(koo89 @ Jul 7 2021, 09:14 PM)
Hello All,
Just wondering what is the difference of standalone and ILP medical card?
I got offer from my agent. Surpsingly the premium of standalone medical caard is higher than the one of ILP medical card. Is there something wrong or is typical industry practice to charge higher price on standalone medical plan?
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Hi,

Do you have any info to show here on what you meant by the standalone premium is higher than the ILP?
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post Jul 8 2021, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(onthefly @ Jul 8 2021, 12:45 AM)
High chance, you might have mixed up standalone & ILP.
assuming the maturity date for both is the same, ILP is higher as portion of your premium goes to investment
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post Jul 8 2021, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Jul 8 2021, 11:40 AM)
Guys I'm buying Prudential term life insurance which renews yearly. Insure 500k for death or TPD. I'm 40 next year and the premium amount is RM1015. It will roughly be the same for other insurance companies right?

Reason I'm buying this is I'm the sole income earner for my family of two kids. My company already bought medical insurance for me to cover outpatient and hospitalization (unlimited)
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Different insurance company has different cost of insurance so it'll not be the same.
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post Jul 8 2021, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Jul 8 2021, 11:40 AM)
Guys I'm buying Prudential term life insurance which renews yearly. Insure 500k for death or TPD. I'm 40 next year and the premium amount is RM1015. It will roughly be the same for other insurance companies right?

Reason I'm buying this is I'm the sole income earner for my family of two kids. My company already bought medical insurance for me to cover outpatient and hospitalization (unlimited)
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Premium is about 700 yearly.
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post Jul 9 2021, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(renjiv2 @ Jul 9 2021, 02:22 PM)
hi all sifu here, im glad tat i found got tis thread here. actually i dunno much abt the insurance & benefit but during the MCO stay at home i study & learn a bit of wat my insurance cover.  sweat.gif before i ask anything plz understand a bit my detail below....

i got few existing GE insurance as the product breakdwn below

1. MULTICARE85 = sum assured 35K.  [yearly annual =RM6++]
2. ENHANCED SUPER LIFE + REDUCING TERM RIDER PLUS WITH TOTAL AND PERMANENT DISABILITY BENEFITS = sum assured 25K each covered. [yearly annual =RM6++]
3. GREATMEDIC CARE 2 = sum assured RM150, limit balance 90k.  [yearly annual =RM9++]

currently 38yo, single, low risk job, non smoker. healthy but got hepatitis b (jz recent year find out, confirm tat i dont have whn i purchase all the insurance above)

recently my agent call & offering me a new medical insurance plan as below
Insurance premium 12k
Premium waiver RM3+++
Critical Illness 100k
SmartMedic Million RM150
GREAT SAVER RIDER (this were add on for cover hepatitis B)

the plan coverage period till 41y & yearly annual cost abt RM4+++

the only different new plan compare wit all my current existing is no premium waiver covered but higher payout cover & it double the yearly annual fees. mayb my age & risk effect the premium high sweat.gif

here the question:
1. does my existing insurance enough to cover? (is ok even no hepatitis cover atm)
2. do u think the new plan have better coverage?
3. let say if i take the offer, surely GREATMEDIC CARE 2 will cancel it after 2 year. how abt the other 2 plan? shud i cancel or keep so i can utilize all the repayment?

btw, my monthly income jz enough to pay off my repayment if i take the new plan.

plzz give me ur opinion, advice & enlighten my dilemma to take the offer or not. bcoz if i dont take the offer, afraid the coming year (whn the economy better) will not get the better premium payment. notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif 

sorry for the long read, thank you & appreciate.  notworthy.gif
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It's a good effort for you to take some time to understand your insurance coverage.

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recently my agent call & offering me a new medical insurance plan as below
Insurance premium 12k
Premium waiver RM3+++
Critical Illness 100k
SmartMedic Million RM150
GREAT SAVER RIDER (this were add on for cover hepatitis B)

I'm confused by you on Insurance Premium is 12k but you mentioned somewhere below

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the plan coverage period till 41y & yearly annual cost abt RM4+++

So are you paying RM4xxx or RM12xxx?

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here the question:
1. does my existing insurance enough to cover? (is ok even no hepatitis cover atm)
2. do u think the new plan have better coverage?
3. let say if i take the offer, surely GREATMEDIC CARE 2 will cancel it after 2 year. how abt the other 2 plan? shud i cancel or keep so i can utilize all the repayment?

1. I won't be able to comment without understanding your personal finances. I'd normally conduct a Financial Health Check to understand you better.
2. There is, depending on how the plan suits you, I'd normally tailor a plan with a few insurance companies for comparison and you decide which is best for you after I've understand your personal finances.
3. Can't comment much as those other plans maybe older plans, I won't be able to tell from the premium charges v future charges.

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post Jul 10 2021, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(blibala @ Jul 10 2021, 02:31 PM)
I wish to get ILP for my sons. 8yo and 2yo.. Hope some agents can quote me..

Pls inbox me. Tqvm.
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Basic coverage will start around 150 monthly - also depends on the sustainability and the amount of coverage loaded into the policy.

Feel free to discuss.
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post Jul 11 2021, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(perfect10 @ Jul 11 2021, 02:14 AM)
not sure if this place is a good place to ask for price comparison, we are planning to get a standalone medical card for my mom. Already got a quote from AIA, just looking to see if got agent can help give other option with Prudential and Allianz? It's cause we had good experience with this two company too.

Pm me and I will let u know the details.
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😉 What's your requirement within the coverage?
Budget?
Details of your mom

QUOTE(wilson1989 @ Jul 11 2021, 11:36 AM)
Anyone here did knee ACL reconstruction before? After that surgery, do you face exclusion in your knee when upgrading your insurance?
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I recall the person had exclusion on things related to the knee.
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post Jul 12 2021, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(aronron33 @ Jul 12 2021, 03:01 PM)
Waiting period of Cashless admission for medical card is 2 years?
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There is no waiting period for cashless admission.
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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Jul 12 2021, 03:20 PM)
Here there sifu sifu sekalian, I had an existing policy (not sure if standalone insurance/with medical) with GE which my parent enrolled for me back when I was a kid. They paid for a duration of time then stopped paying (got some sort of balance that self sustains).

Now that I would like to review it, and to make my decision whether to continue paying (as the balance is low); or to make the decision to let it forfeit.

I have quite little knowledge on the technicality of the insurance world at the moment so go easy on me in regards to the terms. I had just gotten my policy number from GE CS, but they need me to submit some ctc'd hardcopy details / forms etc to update my details.

Meanwhile, if I am going to forfeit the existing GE one (I also have another active one with HLA), i am considering to enroll another one for myself / GF (apart from GE).

our details:
-PII related pls pm me to get details
-both working with private company
-both non smoker
-no medical history (she has allergies but nth apart from that)
-typical health condition (borderline high cholesterol), the rest okay
-budget per month = around 200

hope im providing enough info, otherwise can reach out to me thanx
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If you intend to maximize within the 200 budget, then you'll also have to consider the sustainability of the policy (20 years or till age 100).

Things that you might want to look into to cover:
1. Debts
2. Living expenses
3. Disabilities (Partial / Permanent)

However, without understanding your personal finances, the basic info given above will just garner random pre-packaged quotes from the agents. smile.gif
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QUOTE(h180800 @ Jul 12 2021, 03:50 PM)
Hi, can recommend insurance for my parents? My dad (age 67) don't have any and my mom (age 59) just bought one medical card insurance. Both of them non-smoker. I'm more worried about any critical illness that can happen.
Thanks
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If you're worried if they fall sick and seek treatment from the hospital that might cost a bomb. Then getting a medical card for them is a good consideration.

Premium is about 100 - 200 monthly based on 59 / 67.
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QUOTE(h180800 @ Jul 12 2021, 05:59 PM)
I guess 100k per year should be enough if go gov hospital? I'm willing to go for deductible if it is more value for money as I can afford a few k from my emergency fund.
My dad got Hep C, no other medical problems that I know of.
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100 to 200 monthly without deductible should be no issue.

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post Jul 13 2021, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(aronron33 @ Jul 13 2021, 10:16 AM)
Oh i see coz i heard an agent told me for 1st 2 years there is no cashless admission must be reimbursement admission...
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then I guess the agent has misinformed you.
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post Jul 13 2021, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(aronron33 @ Jul 13 2021, 11:25 AM)
Does the insurance charge in ILP increase time to time according the health assessment?
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What do you mean by health assessment?

It increases overtime due to your morbidity & mortality rate.

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