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post Feb 4 2024, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Feb 4 2024, 10:13 AM)
want to correct this statement abit... 99% CI premium wont be guarantee.

while there has not been repricing on CI, no one has dared to make it guarantee.
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Hm.. thanks for highlight.

The specific statement participating whole life traditional guarantee.
None participating traditional none guarantee.

For now, GE traditional participating whole life plan covering 3D GVC2 & GEVC2 still state premium guarantee. Can see in quotation page 12.
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post Feb 5 2024, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(engyr @ Feb 5 2024, 08:49 AM)
Is there any limit how many critical illness insurance can someone can own?

Why the insurance company asks 'do you have other life/health insurance' during application? 🙄
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as long as you declare . company will do the financial underwriting you eligible or not.

kisah benar, policy void during claim because of none disclose previous life coverage which is exceed his eligibility limit.

Life INSURANCE company - most of the policy usually need medical underwriting & financial underwriting .


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post Feb 8 2024, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Feb 7 2024, 09:54 PM)
I have submitted an application to upgrade my medical plan in my ILP.

After a few weeks, I received an enquiry from the insurance company to fill in a "Neck & Back Pain" questionnaire.

I asked my agent, she says:

1) I declared it in my application form (Note: I did not)
2) I have received medical attention / hospitalization for it (Note: I did not)

Both my neck and back are completely fine to my knowledge. I do not recall ever seeking any kind of medical attention, or indicating as such to any doctor, regarding this.

How can I appeal to the insurer? I have filled in "N/A" to all the questions but not sure how acceptable it will be to the insurer. What will they make me do next?

NOTE: Asking for a close personal friend, NOT myself.
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If .. If information you gather are true. You can reply to insurer wrongly declare and your are fine, no medical treatment for Neck & Back Pain.

IF .. again IF information valid. sweat.gif
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post Feb 22 2024, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(gedebe @ Feb 22 2024, 04:28 AM)
what if a person miss to inform insurance about and  pre existing condition but later honestly report the case to the insurance?
My logic says that insurance has the right to cancel it but is there a possibility that the insurance ask to underwrite the case again
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Depending type of insurance and condition of pre-exiting issue.

Your example is the worst case scenario. Policy terminated refund
Better luck will be exclusion or loading.
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post Mar 4 2024, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Mar 4 2024, 08:21 AM)
Want to ask,
I got medical card insurance,
While my company also buy 1 for me....
Since now financial abit tight,
Plan to on hold my own medical card or cancel...
Possible to on hold for 1~2 year and then continue again?
Or only can cancel?

My sis not advise me to cancel...
She say if anything happen,
When 1st medical card use finish,
Can continue draw from 2nd medical card...
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1st of all, do you know how much company medical annual limit for you? To be frank, company medical protection won't be high in common practice. Most of the employee out there less than RM50K annual limit
2nd .. company may change policy by cover only high level management personnel or reduce your limit.

edit : just read your reply having 1mil by company and yourself. Good. Just what if, you change to new job or company change policy.

When financial tight, we got to plan which is need.
I'm sure you know the medical cost risk, that's the reason having own medical plan.
Try meet your agent access the full detail and discuss. Asking here we all can give general opinion but not according to your actual status.

Is not easy to apply medical plan now. Unless you are so sure your blood test / urine result cantik tip top smile.gif

My opinion, keep it since you have it. Adjust riders or premium discuss with your agent.
Because the money you save never enough to handle medical cost.

Lastly .. worst case, accept the fact .. we got gov GH as last backup. Just try your best since you know the need of medical plan.
Good luck blush.gif

edit : you taking cholesterol med, and tyriod med .. if apply new plan high chance not accept or exclusion ...

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post Mar 8 2024, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(jiaen0509 @ Mar 7 2024, 06:48 PM)
I am currently subscribed to GE SmartProtect Essential Insurance 2

Wonder if I can add on coverage to Singapore? If I working at SG

I am looking for the insurance that suitable to person work in SG. Just in case any accidents happen in the future
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Yes it covered. If is older riders, must not leave Malaysia more than 90 days. Base on your passport in/out record.
If your medical rider upgraded to SmartMedic Million or SmartMedic Shield, yes cover medical claim for SG waived of 90days limited. Pay & claim basis, base on Malaysia medical market rate.

Suggest you get SG local insurance if is long term working plan.
At least a PA.

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post Mar 10 2024, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(rollotomasi @ Mar 10 2024, 12:30 AM)
I'm in my late 40s guy and I bought GE medical card a few years ago. A few days ago, I decided to find out about Great Eastern reviews, and I read that are quite a lot of bad reviews on
Great Eastern. Just for your information, I have never made any claims from GE.
These bad reviews make me want to change to other insurance company.
Here are some of bad reviews that I found:-
https://review.ibanding.com/company/great-e...malaysia-berhad
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3123872/all
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4833082/all

But before I decide to change insurance company, I would like to know if other people have bad experience with GE recently.
To be fair, I also would like to know good experience too from people who have made medical claims from GE.

Please provides details of your experience
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No issue if you didn't hide or forgot to declare any exiting illness during application. This applied to other insurance company as well for regular medical policy.

To approve a claim not only follow your policy T&C. Also how patient described the situation & content in doctor's report.

My client from Melacca pay for GE new policy 4 months only less than RM1000 total premium paid, admitted for appendicitis operation GL approve.
Claimed around RM16K medical treatment and RM500 hospital income benefit.

If the claim rejected, find out the reason. Study the cause.

To get new plan in GE or jump ship to other, reminding you must disclose exiting health condition & check up report.
If you have done any medical checkup recently, result fit & proper then good thumbsup.gif Must submit.

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Why not you meet your agent with your concern?
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post Mar 10 2024, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(premier239 @ Mar 10 2024, 09:11 AM)
can i say standalone medical insurance is generally just for common sickness, e.g. dengue, food poisoning

if need to have coverage for potential development of major sickness like cancer, tumor, etc, we need to buy ILP?
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for GE. Stand alone / ILP covering same for medical illness.

The main different, stand alone no cash value if payment stop easily laps. (can be bank issue, change of new credit card)
Reinstate may need to fill health warranty form, at this moment if client health got issue then ... challenging loh doh.gif

Stand alone cheap for young and limited financial. And for short term contract workers.
For long run, ILP recommended due to more benefits riders can add on.

You may get compare calculation age30 till age 80. Total cost different for both plan.
Then you decide blush.gif
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post Mar 11 2024, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 10 2024, 11:28 AM)
Not true. ILP will have cash value for a while only. It will be zero or negative cash value at the end of the ILP.
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That's sustainability issue. Cash value depending how you plan the premium. old time hard
for policy before 2020 hard to plan because most of the company show illustration for 30 years only.
now, full table show up to age 100.
can roughly know from time to time.
with the cash value, policy won't laps immediately just because of 1 payment stuck.

I personally face the problem my in law medical standalone 10 years ago.
End up we can't reinstate or buy new because of her health condition.

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post Mar 19 2024, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(prescott2006 @ Mar 19 2024, 02:59 PM)
I am a working male, 36, non-smoker, married with 2 kids (6yo and 3yo), wife is working. My monthly salary is 18k, wife is 9k. Outstanding home loan 627k, no MRTA.

Below is my current insurance plan from Generali:
- Life/TPD (150k, age 100)
- Accelerated CI rider (50k, age 100)
- 110 CI care (150k, age 81)
- Hospital income (RM200, age 75)
- Premium payer rider (age 100)
- Medical card (Annual limit 1.6mil, no life limit, age 80)

Questions:
- Any comment on my current plan?
- I feel like my life/TPD not really sufficient, should I top up or buy from other company?
- Is there better plan in the market? If yes, should I switch?
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Annual income around RM216K . CI coverage RM200K

If strike by critical illness need to rest for uncertain time period, ok good to have medical plan.
How bout monthly income? Current CI will give you RM200K. Ok lah still can tahan 1 year to pay housing loan & daily expenses.
But oh ... daily expenses cost will increase to take care illness patient. Including better organic food. Traveling cost in / out hospital.

Imagine, then you know how much you need and plan for it smile.gif

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post Mar 20 2024, 06:46 AM

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QUOTE(X-SenZ @ Mar 20 2024, 01:28 AM)
Hi all, I upgraded my insurance as below:

Gender: Male
Age Next Birthday: 33

Monthly premium for all ILP
Medical Insurance: RM 7.3 million annual limit (no lifetime limit)| RM 325.50
Critical Illness Insurance: RM 150k sum assured | RM 150
Life Insurance: RM 1 million sum assured | RM 650

Total premium payable per year: RM 13,506

Considered top range in my profile, if based on my age group and gender? It is over charge / paid?  confused.gif

Will upgrade in 4-5 years if my income is high enough.

My preference as below:
- prefer comprehensive coverage (not basic or minimal) for each medical / critical illness / life
- longer policy sustainability during older age like 40-60
- cover until age 90-100 
- buy higher coverage during younger age so no need to pay higher premium if upgrade during the old age (40-60).
- investment thingy I don't look at it, I just want comprehensive coverage as possible

I am not sure if all traditional policies (standalone) have lesser coverage compared to ILP, regardless of any insurance companies? someone advise me

or traditional policies more worth?
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Ignore those saying kena corned. Unless can proof it and complaint to BNM / OFS
20 years ago medical limit around RM50-100K, people who still stay with it feel useless when come to seriouse treatment.
A friend told me yesterday her auntie admitted to ICU 1 night cost RM50K, limit burst then find way want to transfer to gov GH.
Since 2020, I have seen a few medical claim near to RM1 mil in my agency. Even over RM1 mil from news.
What if you can't apply any other medical plan due to health issue in future? This RM7.5 mil annual is long run risk protection for your next 30 - 40 years.

Kopi old time RM0.50 cents only. Now ...? Can know next 30 years how much will increase?

Back to your question. Technically I'll say you still short of CI coverage.
But can't comment much base on surface data. Can only advise after policy analysis. Then feedback base on policy contents for your financial risk / health / needs.
Traditional plan always lesser coverage compare to ILP, anyhow it is good for long term planning with guarantee premium , cash & maturity.
There are benefits combination traditional cum ILP. If fit your need.

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post May 23 2024, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Chinus @ May 23 2024, 12:24 PM)
https://qoala.my/en/blog/financial-manageme...nment-hospital/

Refer to above article.
Please don't mind check with you guys, is this rate of charge for government hospital still valid?
Just want to know estimate (roughly) how much will be spend in the 1st year let say people diagnosed Cancer of Breast, Colorectal, Lung, Nasopharyngeal & Liver in stage 3 or 4 and decided to have all medical treatment & surgery in government hospital (HKL/UMMC).
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Good day Chinus,

The chart rate just as guideline
As mentioned by other if not urgent & facing financial challenge.

For cancer depending treatment. Some medication drug not under subsidy group have to self purchase.
Not because want to use expensive stuff ... is because that level of drug needed by patient situation.

I'll say prepare a second choice, while we still can.
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post May 24 2024, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(bogletails @ May 23 2024, 10:58 PM)
Any opinion if I buy insurance but only cover the bare minimum for life and critical illness?

Medical card annual limit over 1mil
Life:20k
Critical illness : No
Personal accident: No
Waivor : No

Honestly I just need the medical part but spoke to 3 different agents from aia , Prudential all also tell me buying standalone will risk later insurance dont allow to renew. I know there is guaranteed renewal but these agents are saying like that and there's some dark stories in the industry and I should believe them.

I am in my late 20s and already got 60 months living expenses saved in high liquid investment. So those coverage for life/ critical illness I think is not so important anymore right? Ideally I want to keep my premium as low as possible.
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True story personal experience .. mom in law standalone renewal rejected.
Other factors can be payment issue because no cash value, once lapsed reinstate may take time for new waiting period, reinstate may require health check...

Good to know you got 60 months back up funds.
You may take a look traditional 3D plan with guarantee return. Study study worth or not.
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post May 24 2024, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 24 2024, 12:13 AM)
Yes. If you are a poor pay master, don't take standalone. Cause once lapse means bye bye.
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That was about 10 years ago. Shd be the bank cc issue.
Wife received SMS to pay by a date, example 15th of the month.
But keep fail to make payment, before the date call in for assist.
SC just reply policy lapsed need to buy new, not allow reinstate. Too bad my MIL condition not able to get new anymore.
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post Jun 13 2024, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Jun 13 2024, 07:54 PM)
So very sorry to interrupt, but how frequent should one review his / her insurance policy?
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When is your last review?
If your medical policy sign up after covid, quite up to date.
Status change such as marriage, higher loan commitment, responsibility to family increase .. yes please review.

Base on above sample, I'll say no specific must review when. You can ask to meet your agent anytime to understand more about your own policy benefits. It is normal we explain 1PM you can't recall exact info by 1.30PM.

I'll suggest at least once a year meet your agent for policy matter.
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post Jun 20 2024, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(GilaGorengMaggi @ Jun 20 2024, 11:34 AM)
Hi sifus, need insurance advice. I don't have medical insurance, am seeking a new plan. 23yo single, non-smoker, minimal expense (living with parents), earning >60k per year office job.

I received an investment-linked policy quotation from Prudential agent:
- Premium: RM240/month
- Policy expires at 65 yo age
- Annual limit: RM12 million
- Lifetime limit: None
- NCB: RM500 per year
- Sum assured:
-- PRUWith You (life insurance), RM50k
-- Total Multi Crisis Care (critical illness), RM50k
-- Acci Guard Plus (personal accident insurance), RM50k
-- Acci Med Plus (no idea what this is), RM5k
-- Acci Income Plus (income protection), 2 units
-- Payor Basic (Prudential will cover premium cost if I am affected by TPD/critical illness), max. RM2800 per annum
-- PRUMillion Med 2.0 + Med Booster 2.0
--- hospital daily room/board RM200 per day

Based on ^, is it good enough or overkill? What can be adjusted to better fit my profile and for the long term.

Also seeking for different quotation from other insurance agents, pls let me know who to contact. Tq  notworthy.gif
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My usual advise medical plan as kosong as possible. Your age easily get multi millions age99/100 plan around RM200.
Spend balance budget to form higher life/tpd/Ci coverage in separate policy. You may choose guarantee premium type or guarantee cash type for future plan.

One of the reason to keep medical plan as light as possible, future repricing. More riders more cost.
Another reason, you are young. Mostly likely will jump to new medical policy while still in good health and similar cost.

** Not asking u to change regular, it is part of the protection planning. new policy new T&C for latest medical tech. Must study 1st and not listen to some agent simply surrender take money buy new. This put you in super high risk.

Good luck in application smile.gif

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post Jun 20 2024, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Jun 20 2024, 05:28 PM)
I have a 4-year old policy, and unlike previous years, my Agent is no longer as keen to respond to my policy reviews. Is it normal?
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None of us here can judge what happened between you & your agent.
You may try reach out to him/her.

You 2 treat each other kopi/ teh before right? blush.gif

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post Jun 20 2024, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Jun 20 2024, 05:44 PM)
hahahah is relative 1 leh, CNY got yam seng. mebbe sebab less comission kut? yr1 komisen tinggi, yr4 komisen yillek
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sweat.gif see. like i said we can't judge.

Anyway, review yearly if can. (review will remind you the policy contents, update some things to take note)
Update some promo / offer / special news in between by text / voice / call.

Get to know more agents, learn more from them. smile.gif

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post Jul 4 2024, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jul 4 2024, 12:33 PM)
Does Great Eastern have a similar medical rider? Damn I need it.
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Old day yes.
Now nope.
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post Jul 26 2024, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(iamwilliamcwl @ Jul 25 2024, 10:02 PM)
Dear sifu,

I purchased an insurance with Allianz in 2019. The insurance is an investment linked policy with medical (1 mil per annum / lifetime no limit)+ ci rider 500k + life 100k.

However recently I found out my policy expiry / maturity year is 2041. And I was informed that my policy is subjected for premium revision from 328 per month to 437 per month.

Therefore now I am considering to find way to extend my policy till 100 year old.

I've try to contact Allianz and they told me there is no way to extend the policy and my policy is Subject to the terms and conditions found in the policy contract, this policy will mature on 2041. At maturity, this policy, including any rider(s) which is (are) still in force at the time of policy maturity, will be renewed immediately every 5 years upon policy maturity (“Renewal”) subject to the condition that the Life Assured has not attained the age of ninety-six (96) years old nearest birthday at the time of Renewal. If the Life Assured has attained the age of ninety- six (96) years old at the time of Renewal, this policy will be renewed up to the Policy Anniversary when the Life Assured attains age one hundred (100) years old nearest birthday. 


I wonder if this is true? If this is true, would it be better for me to consider buying a new policy and set my terms to 100 year old? as I am afraid in the future if I have any illness, it will affect my policy renewability. But at the time time I am reluctant to buy another new policy as it is subject to agent commission again…

Beside that, if I were to purchase a new insurance, would you recommend me to separate my medical and ci? or should I bundle it together? I have ask agent for a quotation for just pure medical insurance (term till 100 years old) and it is only 239 per month.

Your advice are highly appreciated and sorry for the long texts.
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Yes I highly recommend separate medical plan with life / CI.
You might change / upgrade / buy new medical plan especially young age person from time to time.

While life/ CI you can plan something more solid for long run. Better review and study what type suite your needs.

Anyhow, please don't gan jiong quick quick buy new and terminate current plan. Study 1st. Review 1st.

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