How much start MC Donald's business?

Just now pass by a mc Donald's walauweh so jammed and the queue is so long.

Who say economy bad?

🤭

Ok good

Few M I rmb...

properatiy burger is noice
after eat will ONG for the rest of the new year

This post has been edited by pundi: Jan 16 2021, 07:57 PM

Not 1m?

McDonalds are the world’s largest landlord. They are in the business of real estate.

You as a franchisee will be renting the location from them.

I tot the measure of good economy is KFC..

We don't get to choose our spot?

Nope.

They will give you a choice of 3-5 spots, all of which are probably owned by them. This is to avoid you opening your restaurant too close to another McDonalds.

This post has been edited by friedricetheman: Jan 16 2021, 07:59 PM

2 mil at least

at least 5million ringgit

Manpower by them or ourselves?

They will train the staff. But you will be paying them.

McDonalds also expect you to buy raw materials from them, and also pay them a franchisee fee every year.

On top of that, you are paying rent to McDonalds or to a shipping mall. Either way, you are looking at RM50000-100000 in rent per month.

Mid valley Lower Ground rental for a standard size lot is around RM100k per month, if I am not wrong.

Renovations is also via McDonalds approval and the kitchen equipment MUST come from McDonalds. This will be an additional RM300-500k depending on the size of the lot.

Then, there is the initial franchising fee of a few million to kickstart your first restaurant. You can find out more by writing to McDonalds.

This post has been edited by friedricetheman: Jan 16 2021, 08:06 PM

Ask Vincent Tan

At least 1 million.

u need to have at least 7 figure to open 1
not only that, it really depends what kind u want to open
shopping mall restaurant?...ice-cream kiosk?...standalone building?

My god. That's quite good info. Thanks a lot ya.

Thanks for the info.
Quite interesting to know that.

5yrs ago I checked, 3mil for the franchise license + renovation + initial stocks. It was on McD website back then.

latest need 5mil
https://ifranchisemalaysia.com/mcdonalds-fr...ortunity-2.html

nowadays kenot franchise mcd d i think.

latest shop all arab hold now.

No problem, buddy. Anytime.

Here’s an article about McDonalds real estate business. There are a bunch of them articles on the web on this too so it’s not really a secret anymore.

https://www.fool.com/millionacres/real-esta...akes-its-money/

And here’s the actual costs. RM5 million seed money to start (must be own money and borrowed money).

You are also paying rental of 18% - 20% of your monthly sales to McDonalds.

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This post has been edited by friedricetheman: Jan 16 2021, 08:22 PM

Yes they not open to franchise anymore.
The easiest American QSR u can consider to open is Subway.
With initial start up from 600k-800k.

How much square feet in midvalley? Impossible 100k la

Abit confuse, read the link provided and it state USA gave Golden Arches Restaurants Sdn Bhd the license to operate McDonald’s restaurants in Malaysia. Meaning those restaurant still owned by USA McDonalds and not Golden Arches Restaurants Sdn Bhd?

Go ask around bro. Watatime on Ground floor is RM100k a month.

What does that mean by not open to franchisee anymore?

What it had to do with arab?🤔

I am not sure of the agreement but probably they are the master franchisee in Malaysia and reports directly to McDonalds USA.

3 million je. i got mcd owner contact

McDonald's always full. Thanx to Saudi company beli. 😂😂😂

Now no more 1 bullet to yahudi

So much inaccurate info.

"On top of that, you are paying rent to McDonalds or to a shipping mall."
McD don't let you rent direct to landlord.

"Mid valley Lower Ground rental for a standard size lot is around RM100k per month, if I am not wrong."
What a joke.

"Then, there is the initial franchising fee of a few million to kickstart your first restaurant. You can find out more by writing to McDonalds."
Franchis fee is not few million LOL


Lucky he went to google and save himself the humiliation.

I dont think so. If rental alone 100k, thats is huggeee to break even everymonth.

Beli what?

still can, but they will let u franchise in rural areas and shit locations, good locations and cities all they hold ledi

Hahaha, so mislead. Not sure where he got the data. 100k rental is out of mind

I know of a friend who rents a lot in mid valley. The rental doubles on each floor. It starts at RM10k at the top. Second floor starts at 20k. First floor is around 40k. And watatime on the ground floor is RM80k or so. The lower ground levels are RM100k and above for standard lots.

The kiosks on lower ground is RM5-10k per month.

Oh ok, cause I'm thinking is this a way for foreigner to obtain the real estate in Malaysia (not saying those inside mall) but the landed one.

Midvalley rental is charge as

1) Per Square Feet
2) Percentage of Monthly Gross Sales + PSF

Whichever is higher

"I know of friends". Dont trust a friend when thry bragging about this ok.

Not only midvalley, every mall also same. Name it AEON, KLCC, etc etc..

Let’s make a bet. Ready to run naked or not?

You want to join that idiot to pile on me without knowing anything about mall rentals, then maybe you deserve to run naked.

This post has been edited by friedricetheman: Jan 16 2021, 08:40 PM

Even Dragon-I @ the Cititel Midvalley rental cost also Rm80k per month

Source: from a captain working @ that branch

See my reply above. Want to make a bet. Can have a group naked run.

ok ayam gonna try to get full loan for capital.

I wonder what his standard lot size means.

2nd floor RM10k. LG RM100k.10x difference hahahahahahaha. Only a fool will believe.

That’s about right for ground floor lots. It doubles as the floor gets lower.

Again, employees and worker they source is unreliable. Proof it

So what u try to show me a ss of conversation with????

I remember there is a KFC in Mid Valley lower ground floor...shop like KFC can get 100k or more sales per month?

"Initial Capital: RM 5,000,000 (100% are from non-borrowed funds)" From McD.

COVID time, rental is cheap.
You all talk kok , making own delusional assumption.

Calm your tities down, call direct to the Management and finds out lor

friedrice is almost spot on.

Lock for 3 years.

bro, top malls, the rentals are insane

Uniqlo KLCC spot last told when one of my family members was working at HQ few years ago was like 500k per month

100k for McD sounds reasonable

damn im just pipit only not helang.

Lol. Ok bro. Have a good day. Please continue to shit post.

No balls to run naked. Just say so.

I am there for 3 + 2 years.

Yeah right mr.obvious, better luck next time.

Lol. Then take my bet and we can go to the management on Monday. Or better yet, I can PM them for a quote specially for you once you take the bet.

if you think you are right, take up the bet je la..

KLCC is different, this just Midvalley.
Uniqlo, how thousands square feet? U cant compare with f&b lot that only take 2lot usually.

This post has been edited by dadurtyz: Jan 16 2021, 08:49 PM

I want to bet that this info is incorrect. Loser quit /K

Btw what the hell is standard lot? Midvalley got soooo many different lot sizes.

For example

Haha, maybe can bring in new brand into Malaysia which might cost lesser.

Who want to bring in In-N-Out, miss their burger much nicer than Mc Donald's.

last time 2m, now maybe 7-8m

popcorn inkambing lol

All shit posting one. No balls to take up bet. Just want to let off steam on LYN only.

Mid Valley would charge depending on your type of business. For F&B business, you are paying more since you are using their pipe in gas and utilities. They also have special inspections work done before you open after renovations to make sure that there is no gas leaks.

Why no support taco bell

This thread is informational, but typical /k all wanna blow balloon.

then it will always be no.2 isnt it since it include no.1 plus the percentage from monthly sales

500k? gila ah might as well sendiri buy a lot in golden triangle area and installment 500k per month and u get a standalone uniqlo instead of getting a lot from klcc

Rental pricing are different to each company, some company dey will give lower rental as dey bring volume of shoppers to their malls, and some company will depend on those incoming shoppers.

But for Midvalley, rm100k is probably the right price for the ground floor.

so both of u talk so much, u guys can give any solid 'evidence' of the rent pricing in mid valley?

at least that friedrice guy gave a screenshot and he was renting a lot thr for 5 years

Opening soon in Cyberjaya?

well maybe he dont dare, but got another challenger..

5m for small shop

No

Ask him to bet with me. I can post right after.

Quit his dupe account and use his main account. That kind of bet is of no risk to him, bro.

Better the loser runs naked in Mid Valley.

https://tacobell.com.my/

friedricetheman dont disappoint us

Just chipping in my thoughts.

RM100k monthly rental for KFC and McDs in a top mall like Midvalley seems like a steal to me.

These outlets (in normal days) almost always have a queue going, even out of lunchtime and dinnertime.

100k sales alone over 1 month = RM3,333 sales a day. An average order at McDs would range between RM15-30, as we know the price of their value meals now. Let's put that at RM20. That would just be 160 orders over the counter. Easily done over one lunchtime. This hasn't not included large family orders which can go up to RM60-80, and their McCafe counter where the drinks are RM7-10 or more.

Even if the gross sales needs to be RM500K (5x of my estimations above) to net a decent profit for the franchisee it'll still be easily achieved. Again, looking at a top mall like Midvalley.

So you are saying that a F&B outlet in lower ground floor Mid Valley Megamall is lower than 100k a month? Is that what you are betting?

I am not talking about MCO discounts. I am talking about the agreement that you sign with MV management when you agree to rent that lot.

This post has been edited by friedricetheman: Jan 16 2021, 09:01 PM

No during lock down

Lol. He will just quit his dupe account and use his main account instead.

nvm, we want to see some drama also, just give him a nice one

I am not interested in drama. Am more interested in sharing information with you guys.

I want to bet that this info is incorrect.

Btw what the hell is standard lot?

Run naked + quit /K.

This post has been edited by titanmelvin: Jan 16 2021, 09:03 PM

No bro. The bet is on F&B outlet in LG Mid Valley costs less than 100k according to you.

I say it costs around RM100k.


Please don’t Chicken out.

Run naked Ah?

I realize that you have been dying for some attention from me for the longest time. I have been ignoring you and your stupid comments but you still want to trash talk.

I guess you love me too much until you want to stalk me.

This post has been edited by friedricetheman: Jan 16 2021, 09:05 PM

WTF?

u are the one previously that say his LG RM100k rent is bullshit

and he said watatime in G floor is 80k , that is not F&B outlet so its 80k, mcd is F&B and he claims f&b is more expensive so rm100k is possible

Since when was that the bet? You pusing king?

Answer man, what the hell is standard lot?

Just like Watatime 100k become 80k? LOL

What evidence, he just show me the ss with conversation with?

He said 100k for standard lot at LG. Wtf is standard lot? My exact post is below:

"Mid valley Lower Ground rental for a standard size lot is around RM100k per month, if I am not wrong."
What a joke.


McD at LG gone for how many years already? Their size so big is called standRd lot size? Read properly from the start what the joker claimed.

My bet was that his 10k, 20k, 40k, etc is incorrect. Go ahead and double check.

It was a typo. I meant to say 80k. But typed too fast and say 100k.

So you want to bet on that? Do you really need to be that petty to bet on a typo?

Please help contribute to the discussion on hand instead of try to troll me on every chance you get. I know you have a certain vendetta against me with the way you try to troll me on every post I participate in. But this is a civilized forum and I won’t allow myself to be dragged down to your level.

So, I hope you have a great weekend and God bless. I don’t hate you but I find your constant trolling quite irritating.

But since we are all God’s children, I forgive you.

waiting for friedricetheman comeback to refute this claim

Sorry bro. But I don’t feel like debating. You can easily email IGB REIT to check their rental rates for F&B outlets.

All I can say is that my estimates are not very far off. There is also a sales tax on your gross monthly sales.

To provide the actual information is good. But dont get it too far from what it should, mcd already out from the mall.
1st floor 200sqft midvalley 8k
Garden mall LG, which is beside. For 1lot (not remember the sqft) is 7k

Lol!

It doesn’t double like that. Kek

The lot cost is pretty standard.

The walkway stalls ground floor cost 4K each only because mapren asked and wanna rent one but luckily on waiting list till existing tenant vacate it then MCO happens.

The restaurant one with seating ones cost 9k onwards.

Upper floor cheaper a bit. 7k onwards got already.

Don’t know grocer cost since can’t afford anyway.