QUOTE(KennRicky @ Mar 1 2021, 02:23 AM)
He pick the wrong side to cross, first option usually will be far post and last will be near post but terbalik the sequence LOLEnglish Clubs Manchester United Street Talks
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Mar 1 2021, 02:28 AM
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Mar 1 2021, 02:29 AM
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They press better and much more effective.. suffocated Shaw few times.. troubled McT many times..
United players especially the forward pressing didnt put much pressure.. more like wasting energy |
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Mar 1 2021, 02:30 AM
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Mar 1 2021, 02:26 AM) Obviously he knows he sux too. That's why sit bench already. I think James is among the best performer. Run run run with purpose proven. bruno suck against big teams. get angry > lose focus > pass accuracy when shitBruno as always fail to make good pass against top team. Haih. Got 2 counter chance pass badly united have 2 centre midfielders on the field who cant even make simple pass. mctominay - take too many touches, lose ball many times, misplaced passes fred - lose ball many times, misplaced passes |
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Mar 1 2021, 02:39 AM
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hate to say. no jogba no title lol.
the play not fast enough. they always lump the ball forward let james chase but rarely did so. the few occasions they lump the ball forward fast enough, we got the chance. funny enough, against big team, we can clean sheet. against everton, we can't even defend a half line freekick. |
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Mar 1 2021, 02:53 AM
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Mar 1 2021, 02:39 AM) hate to say. no jogba no title lol. Woah hold on there, dont u know everyone here and almost all United supporters cant wait for him to be sold? LOLthe play not fast enough. they always lump the ball forward let james chase but rarely did so. the few occasions they lump the ball forward fast enough, we got the chance. funny enough, against big team, we can clean sheet. against everton, we can't even defend a half line freekick. Pogba is a damn good quality player.. sure, sell him off.. but if United fail to replace him with a player thay on similar calibre, then its just going backwards.. |
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Mar 1 2021, 07:40 AM
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QUOTE(yujirorasy @ Mar 1 2021, 02:30 AM) proven. bruno suck against big teams. get angry > lose focus > pass accuracy when shit It is not that Bruno is bad against the big teams, it is the team is setup to be passive against big teams hence Bruno cannot play.united have 2 centre midfielders on the field who cant even make simple pass. mctominay - take too many touches, lose ball many times, misplaced passes fred - lose ball many times, misplaced passes Against big teams, it is always Maguire-Lindelof sitting very deep with a double pivot of McFred sitting 5 meters ahead of them with specific instructions to sit. It translates into us having a midfield line just above our penalty box. This means Bruno as a no 10 needs to come very deep to get the ball, most of the time in our half. The deeper a no 10 gets the ball the less dangerous it is. And when he does, there no real options as we only have 1-2 runners as options against the mass of defenders. Fullbacks aren't bombing forward. You stick Bruno into a different team like City or Liverpool with instructions to attack, and he will be much more effective against top 6 opposition. A no 10 is only as effective as the options provided around him. Ole played for the 0-0. It was apparently from the start. Scoring goals was never high on the list tonight. |
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Mar 1 2021, 08:01 AM
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Mar 1 2021, 07:40 AM) It is not that Bruno is bad against the big teams, it is the team is setup to be passive against big teams hence Bruno cannot play. well saidAgainst big teams, it is always Maguire-Lindelof sitting very deep with a double pivot of McFred sitting 5 meters ahead of them with specific instructions to sit. It translates into us having a midfield line just above our penalty box. This means Bruno as a no 10 needs to come very deep to get the ball, most of the time in our half. The deeper a no 10 gets the ball the less dangerous it is. And when he does, there no real options as we only have 1-2 runners as options against the mass of defenders. Fullbacks aren't bombing forward. You stick Bruno into a different team like City or Liverpool with instructions to attack, and he will be much more effective against top 6 opposition. A no 10 is only as effective as the options provided around him. Ole played for the 0-0. It was apparently from the start. Scoring goals was never high on the list tonight. double dm makes it very hard for bruno |
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Mar 1 2021, 08:04 AM
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I dunno about you guys. Thr players actually did quite well.
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Mar 1 2021, 08:22 AM
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Ok now conlanfirm fight for no 2 spot.
Jangan slipppy g ke bawah top 4 sudah. |
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Mar 1 2021, 08:36 AM
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Honestly hate it that Ole sets the team up for a draw when he tells the media that the title race is still on.
Chelsea was pretty shit but we still manage to look 2nd best. Fred has been wasteful with his forward pass and shots but he seems undroppable now due to his work rate and defensive covers. But pair him with another defensive midfield, and we get an easy set up to mark Bruno. Doesn't help when our wing forwards are not looking threatening. Never seem to link up, rather just trying to score a highlight of the year for themselves. At least our defenders manage to look better than before against Chelsea but i think most of it can be attributed to Chelsea's lack of commitment to attack. Its as if both teams are too afraid to lose the game. Was worried about facing Tuchel but he's tactics are just so so. We were an easily predictable lineup with Pogba and Cavani injured but Tuchel still couldnt set up to get ahead of us. What's worrying for me is the frustration that Bruno has on the pitch. When he passes to nowhere, he always blame his teammates. Probably not a healthy thing to do eventhough I do agree that sometimes our forwards are lazy to press. Ole does not seem to mind our team pressing high for 90 minutes without substitutions. He threw Martial in as a curveball but Martial is soooo frustrating to watch when he is uninterested in playing. Just jogging around, in fact when he was at the bylines waiting for a sub, he looks bored lol. But what can we do. We dont have anymore striker options with Cavani out injured. James does not seem to be able to play in this level though. Constantly getting bullied although i do feel like some of the decisions were unfair to him. Regardless, he was still the most hardworking player we have. Between him and Rashford, I never seem to trust them to make the correct decision when they pick the ball high up the wing. Greenwood was invisible but probably rightfully so, since our midfields and forwards dont offer him much to do with. Moving on from a draw is alright if we acknowledge that the title race is gone and we are fighting to maintain the 2nd position especially when Leicester lost. Pogba recovering from injury cant come quick enough, but who knows which Pogba shows up after his recovery |
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Mar 1 2021, 08:36 AM
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By normal standard, it's obvious penalty. It's harsh but we've seen many handball situations given, particularly the opening game against us (Lindelof vs C Palace). Come to think, on the OT game, Chelsea also deserve a penalty (Maguire fouled Azpiculeta)
But nah, I don't think we're deserve to win it. It was like flip flop game, 10 minutes we were so good and the next 10, we were so shite. If we are mindsetting for challenging City for the title, this is frustrating result. |
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Mar 1 2021, 08:41 AM
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Let’s face it, Ole can’t set his team right, and we also have pretty average players up top. Chelsea didn’t do much but what they did, it was effective in getting the ball, pushing up the wings. If only our overlap was as good. McT had a rather poor game today.
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Mar 1 2021, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Mar 1 2021, 07:40 AM) It is not that Bruno is bad against the big teams, it is the team is setup to be passive against big teams hence Bruno cannot play. The way we play is always hope for scoring with few chances from counter. We did that on city Chelsea last seasons and psg too. For me which is passive since since we can be braver and take them on. But this tactic got us points and fight for top 4.Against big teams, it is always Maguire-Lindelof sitting very deep with a double pivot of McFred sitting 5 meters ahead of them with specific instructions to sit. It translates into us having a midfield line just above our penalty box. This means Bruno as a no 10 needs to come very deep to get the ball, most of the time in our half. The deeper a no 10 gets the ball the less dangerous it is. And when he does, there no real options as we only have 1-2 runners as options against the mass of defenders. Fullbacks aren't bombing forward. You stick Bruno into a different team like City or Liverpool with instructions to attack, and he will be much more effective against top 6 opposition. A no 10 is only as effective as the options provided around him. Ole played for the 0-0. It was apparently from the start. Scoring goals was never high on the list tonight. If Bruno passing as good as his normal standard from the counter, we at least have few clear chance. Not the first game, he pass to no where when counter is on. Not to blame him since he is very good. Just frustrated not playing up to his standard |
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Mar 1 2021, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Mar 1 2021, 08:50 AM) The way we play is always hope for scoring with few chances from counter. We did that on city Chelsea last seasons and psg too. For me which is passive since since we can be braver and take them on. But this tactic got us points and fight for top 4. I think we played well considering what we planned to achieve.If Bruno passing as good as his normal standard from the counter, we at least have few clear chance. Not the first game, he pass to no where when counter is on. Not to blame him since he is very good. Just frustrated not playing up to his standard It's easy to go in on Bruno in games like this where us being very defensive minded puts the creative players in the worst light. Let's face it, our double pivot CDMs cannot pass the ball out quick enough to spark any chances. Pogba usually can, but he is more risky than either McFred by playing him so close to our own penalty area. |
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Mar 1 2021, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Mar 1 2021, 08:50 AM) The way we play is always hope for scoring with few chances from counter. We did that on city Chelsea last seasons and psg too. For me which is passive since since we can be braver and take them on. But this tactic got us points and fight for top 4. Tuchel's tactical approach is the same, has high possession and high passing amount, if u press high and caught off guard with Ziyech and Mount upfront, Maguire and Lindelof will have hard time dealing with them. If Bruno passing as good as his normal standard from the counter, we at least have few clear chance. Not the first game, he pass to no where when counter is on. Not to blame him since he is very good. Just frustrated not playing up to his standard Playing counter is the best approach for not to wear out the player's stamina throughout 90mins, find a chance and strike them, if McSauce cross the ball towards the box, Rashford might have a scoring chance but he mispass it. The way i see positively is James has improve tremendously and has more confidence, dribble then cross, not like last time dribble then lost possession. He has been losing confidence for the past one year. |
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Mar 1 2021, 11:46 AM
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Well, the only way Chelsea was threatening was when they countered us. When they had possession, they only passed here and there. We were more direct and considering this is was an away game, I think we played better than expected.
Game is not boring. Quite fast game |
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Mar 1 2021, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Mar 1 2021, 09:56 AM) Tuchel's tactical approach is the same, has high possession and high passing amount, if u press high and caught off guard with Ziyech and Mount upfront, Maguire and Lindelof will have hard time dealing with them. Yeah, James has improved these few games. Don't mind him in the starting line up for now.Playing counter is the best approach for not to wear out the player's stamina throughout 90mins, find a chance and strike them, if McSauce cross the ball towards the box, Rashford might have a scoring chance but he mispass it. The way i see positively is James has improve tremendously and has more confidence, dribble then cross, not like last time dribble then lost possession. He has been losing confidence for the past one year. Rashford Cavani/Greenwood James Martial can GTFO This post has been edited by O-haiyo: Mar 1 2021, 11:50 AM |
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Mar 1 2021, 11:46 AM) Well, the only way Chelsea was threatening was when they countered us. When they had possession, they only passed here and there. We were more direct and considering this is was an away game, I think we played better than expected. Southampton did that to Chelsea, sit back on own half and let them have possession, Minamino exploit their back 3 hole and scored the first goal. That's why we don't fight possession with them, let them make mistake and counter them. Game is not boring. Quite fast game QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Mar 1 2021, 11:49 AM) Yeah, James has improved these few games. Don't mind him in the starting line up for now. I hope VDB can be like James tooRashford Cavani/Greenwood James Martial can GTFO Martial mau jual also susah, he jut signed extension contract last season IINM, i think Ole will keep him for another season. As for Lingard, maybe we can sell to West Ham about 20mil |
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Mar 1 2021, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Mar 1 2021, 12:03 PM) Southampton did that to Chelsea, sit back on own half and let them have possession, Minamino exploit their back 3 hole and scored the first goal. That's why we don't fight possession with them, let them make mistake and counter them. overall i think it was fair match.. draw. both team not really pushing for it. disappointed not seeing goal thoughI hope VDB can be like James too Martial mau jual also susah, he jut signed extension contract last season IINM, i think Ole will keep him for another season. As for Lingard, maybe we can sell to West Ham about 20mil sign new striker, take no 9 out of martial, freeze like lingard, loan to west ham? andre silva look good option banging goal at bundesliga.. can link up wt bruno |
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QUOTE(onepack @ Mar 1 2021, 12:31 PM) overall i think it was fair match.. draw. both team not really pushing for it. disappointed not seeing goal though We need a striker poacher type, someone who can find space in the box and also heads the ball really well. In short someone like Cavani. Martial, Rashford and Greenwood are too similar.sign new striker, take no 9 out of martial, freeze like lingard, loan to west ham? andre silva look good option banging goal at bundesliga.. can link up wt bruno |
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