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Steering Wheel Alignment not Wheel Alignment
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TSclockpulses
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Nov 23 2020, 06:06 PM, updated 5y ago
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Hi all
Is there a service out there that can do steering wheel alignment
I have done so many alignmnents from many workshops but the steering wheel does not return to centre, keep pointing slightly to left and make it looks like the wheel alignment is off,
Since then i began to think it is the steering wheel needs adjustment.
Antone know such service exist?
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zeng
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Nov 23 2020, 08:06 PM
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Caveat : I am no fan of Wheel Alignment and hence do not know the 'ins and outs' of Wheel Alignment through 'lack of practice in local context' .
However as I understood it , the steering wheel alignment you referred to here is actually a basic and fundamental part of vehicle Wheel Alignment often mentioned in automotive world .
If the wheel alignment shop providing such service to you did not first 'centred' and 'locked' the steering wheel in a centre position prior to reading computer screen readouts and make adjustments of alignment angle(s) ........................ then it is time for you to walk away and never to return to this sub-standard wheel alignment shop .
However if the shop has properly 'centred' the steering wheel position prior to subsequent components of wheel alignment adjustment jobs , then computer screenshots before AND after the alignment job is necessary for any third party like us to comment or assess whether the alignment job was properly carried out or otherwise .
Besides , the experience and judgement of the guys doing the alignment job proper is sometimes critical to the 'success' too .
Have you got any latest alignment screenshots to share here for third party assessment on lowyat ?
This post has been edited by zeng: Nov 23 2020, 08:10 PM
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kaliku
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Nov 23 2020, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(clockpulses @ Nov 23 2020, 06:06 PM) Hi all Is there a service out there that can do steering wheel alignment I have done so many alignmnents from many workshops but the steering wheel does not return to centre, keep pointing slightly to left and make it looks like the wheel alignment is off, Since then i began to think it is the steering wheel needs adjustment. Antone know such service exist? Go to the service centre and get them to use the OBD machine to calibrate for you. My workshop did steering wheel alignment using that.
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Oldskolboyz
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Nov 23 2020, 10:42 PM
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What car? Mostly steering wheel miss align only happen to car using EPS + Angle Sensor + VSC + TRC to solve it you need to recalibration and set it back to Zero Point.. even you make 1000 x wheel alignment wouldn't solve the problem..
This post has been edited by Oldskolboyz: Nov 23 2020, 10:44 PM
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Oldskolboyz
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Nov 23 2020, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(kaliku @ Nov 23 2020, 10:40 PM) Go to the service centre and get them to use the OBD machine to calibrate for you. My workshop did steering wheel alignment using that. Not OBD machine.. actual name is Scan Tool..
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Jay Chua CC
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Nov 24 2020, 08:29 AM
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usual.y wheel alignment includes steering adjustment as well
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kdr93
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Nov 24 2020, 09:53 AM
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You might want to check your steering rack bushes as well
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Quazacolt
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Nov 24 2020, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(clockpulses @ Nov 23 2020, 06:06 PM) I have done so many alignmnents from many workshops but the steering wheel does not return to centre, keep pointing slightly to left and make it looks like the wheel alignment is off, Since then i began to think it is the steering wheel needs adjustment. First check if there's any worn or damaged bushings/suspension components or even wheel/rims/tires. No it's not the steering needing adjustments, at least not until you rule out the items I mentioned.
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MR_alien
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Nov 24 2020, 10:39 AM
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1. not every places that has an alignment machine knows how to do alignment 2. find a good alignment shop 3. when they do the alignment, they will usually put the steering to center and use a thing to lock it in place before doing the alignment
4. if even that doesn't work, there must be some part that is worn out already 5. your tyre pressure being unbalance affects your steering going slightly to 1 side too
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twincharger07
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Nov 24 2020, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(clockpulses @ Nov 23 2020, 06:06 PM) Hi all Is there a service out there that can do steering wheel alignment I have done so many alignmnents from many workshops but the steering wheel does not return to centre, keep pointing slightly to left and make it looks like the wheel alignment is off, Since then i began to think it is the steering wheel needs adjustment. Antone know such service exist? A lot of factors contribute to these like worn suspension component (absorbers, bushes, joint, tie rod etc). And your steering rack might be the cause as well, does it have free play. Bring it to a workshop to check these components. I changed all my absorbers, bushes and tyres (they are due for change anyway) And finally sent for steering rack refurbish. There is a bit of free play before that This post has been edited by twincharger07: Nov 24 2020, 11:33 AM
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twincharger07
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Nov 24 2020, 11:32 AM
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double post
This post has been edited by twincharger07: Nov 24 2020, 11:33 AM
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Oldskolboyz
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Nov 24 2020, 11:35 AM
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Search at youtube.. title.. "Zero Point Calibration Steering Wheel and Angle Sensor".. Than you will understand why manual tyre alignment wouldn't help at all because EPS got ECU located below meter panel.. this ECU need to calibration back to Zero Point..
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abubin
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Nov 24 2020, 12:10 PM
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Any of you go to a trusted workshop for your wheel alignment? Name a few for us please.
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scorgio
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Nov 24 2020, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(abubin @ Nov 24 2020, 12:10 PM) Any of you go to a trusted workshop for your wheel alignment? Name a few for us please. Some say the most experienced in the business. Ah Hee Motors at Salak Selatan. RM40 for front only (1.8L sedan).
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zeng
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Nov 24 2020, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(scorgio @ Nov 24 2020, 01:07 PM) Some say the most experienced in the business. Ah Hee Motors at Salak Selatan. RM40 for front only (1.8L sedan). For front axle toe-in toe-out only , I suppose ? How about camber adjustment labour cost , any idea ? Edit: I think I heard about this guy a long long time ago . This post has been edited by zeng: Nov 24 2020, 02:26 PM
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abubin
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Nov 24 2020, 05:12 PM
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Long time ago I used to go to this guy in old klang road. The shop is located at the side of main old klang road. Jam packed with cars. Even police cars go there for alignment. I have stopped going there long time already.
BTW, that is one of the only shop I know that will never ask you to put camber nut.
This post has been edited by abubin: Nov 24 2020, 05:30 PM
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dwRK
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Nov 24 2020, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(clockpulses @ Nov 23 2020, 06:06 PM) Hi all Is there a service out there that can do steering wheel alignment I have done so many alignmnents from many workshops but the steering wheel does not return to centre, keep pointing slightly to left and make it looks like the wheel alignment is off, Since then i began to think it is the steering wheel needs adjustment. Antone know such service exist? steering point left, but car still go straight...or car also go left?
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TSclockpulses
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Nov 24 2020, 06:50 PM
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Thank you for your replies. I want to update you what have i fixed/replaced
1. Absorber front and rear 2. Absorber bush front and rear 3. Absorber mount front and rear 4. Stabilizer link front and rear 5. Stabilizer bar bush 6. Steering rack bush 7. Front lower arm with bush and ball joint 8. Steering fluid 9. All 4 tyres
Car handling is solid, like new. But the problem is with the alignment, which i suspect because one of the steering component (not the rack). Most probably the steering column(?)
When idle, turn abit the steering wheel to right feel nice and tight. But to the left, abit loose. But no play, means when i move to left the tyre it's moving. So no issues with free play.
When i drive straight because it is loose abit on left side, the steering wheel go left and cause it to steer to the left without my input. Seems to me it is not balance.
If engine is off, turn left and right is steady and balanced. No loose
After left corner, the steering wont return to center at 12 oclock but instead , only return to between 11 and 12 oclock (11.30 oclock). This is nothing for short drives but it will be uncomfortable and tiring for long drives as ibhave to contantly adjust the wheel to center manually
Fyi, handling of the car is good, no wobbling right and left like it used to. But the is aslight knocking sound on uneven road and after speed bump
I also dont think it is the steering rack, cause no fluid leak.
Am i right to suspect on the steering column?
Fyi, the steering system is hydraulic, not EPS
This post has been edited by clockpulses: Nov 24 2020, 07:20 PM
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dwRK
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Nov 24 2020, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(clockpulses @ Nov 24 2020, 06:50 PM) Fyi, the steering system is hydraulic, not EPS so older bmw? one time I changed 4 new tires, after alignment pull slightly left, steering feel also off... swap front tires left/right solved the problem...
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TSclockpulses
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Nov 24 2020, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Nov 24 2020, 07:50 PM) so older bmw? one time I changed 4 new tires, after alignment pull slightly left, steering feel also off... swap front tires left/right solved the problem... Its a Proton. I never see myself selling the car, planning to use it as long as i can that is why i am very particular on thr suspension issues and want to solve all i can
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