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TSclockpulses
post Nov 23 2020, 06:06 PM, updated 5y ago

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Hi all

Is there a service out there that can do steering wheel alignment

I have done so many alignmnents from many workshops but the steering wheel does not return to centre, keep pointing slightly to left and make it looks like the wheel alignment is off,

Since then i began to think it is the steering wheel needs adjustment.

Antone know such service exist?
TSclockpulses
post Nov 24 2020, 06:50 PM

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Thank you for your replies. I want to update you what have i fixed/replaced

1. Absorber front and rear
2. Absorber bush front and rear
3. Absorber mount front and rear
4. Stabilizer link front and rear
5. Stabilizer bar bush
6. Steering rack bush
7. Front lower arm with bush and ball joint
8. Steering fluid
9. All 4 tyres

Car handling is solid, like new. But the problem is with the alignment, which i suspect because one of the steering component (not the rack). Most probably the steering column(?)

When idle, turn abit the steering wheel to right feel nice and tight. But to the left, abit loose. But no play, means when i move to left the tyre it's moving. So no issues with free play.

When i drive straight because it is loose abit on left side, the steering wheel go left and cause it to steer to the left without my input. Seems to me it is not balance.

If engine is off, turn left and right is steady and balanced. No loose

After left corner, the steering wont return to center at 12 oclock but instead , only return to between 11 and 12 oclock (11.30 oclock). This is nothing for short drives but it will be uncomfortable and tiring for long drives as ibhave to contantly adjust the wheel to center manually

Fyi, handling of the car is good, no wobbling right and left like it used to. But the is aslight knocking sound on uneven road and after speed bump

I also dont think it is the steering rack, cause no fluid leak.

Am i right to suspect on the steering column?

Fyi, the steering system is hydraulic, not EPS

This post has been edited by clockpulses: Nov 24 2020, 07:20 PM
TSclockpulses
post Nov 24 2020, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Nov 24 2020, 07:50 PM)
so older bmw?

one time I changed 4 new tires, after alignment pull slightly left, steering feel also off... swap front tires left/right solved the problem...
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Its a Proton. I never see myself selling the car, planning to use it as long as i can that is why i am very particular on thr suspension issues and want to solve all i can
TSclockpulses
post Jan 19 2021, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jan 19 2021, 11:10 PM)
Did alignment many times, the steering wheel always points slightly to right. I have faith in the technician doing the alignment, he seems to be quite proud and thorough with his work. It goes like this: i get some part replace>go to alignment>replace another part>do another alignment.

Anyway, the steering rack is actually not the culprit. It was a bad front wheel bearings on both sides. Had to diagnose it myself because the bearings does not show usual bearing problem (wheel freeplay and grinding noise) and most workshop prefer not to spend much time on it. The only symptoms I experience is occasional clinking noise coming from the brake pad clips and rhythmic thumping noise when cornering to one side.
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The bolder part exactly like my situation lol

So your bearing produce any humming sound at high speed?

I got this kruk krak sound on left side on uneven road and kuk soubd from right side after bump, both from front, don't think it is steering rack too, either the bearing or the brake pad clip or both. Weird thing is my last workshop can't find or the source of the issue, they said not bearing either. Also no humming sound at high speed, or maybe got lah but very minor and cannot be heard

Anyway no budget allocated yet for 2021 lol, maybe in few months time. I'm gonna change both the bearing and check the brake caliper area

This post has been edited by clockpulses: Jan 19 2021, 11:20 PM
TSclockpulses
post Jan 20 2021, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Jan 19 2021, 11:41 PM)
The reason why my wheel bearings does not present with the usual grinding/humming noise is because the bearings only started to become bad. I detected it too early. When the mechanic took the bearings out, they were mostly intact, only the grease has totally gone and dried out.

Here I diagnose the bearing problem: Jack up the front wheel(s). For regular auto transmission can jack only one side no problem, for CVT cannot. Not sure for manual. So preferably both front wheels. For 4WD probably need to jack all wheels.

Start the engine, put the car into drive with both front wheel above the ground. Then visually inspect the wheels. Look for abnormal rotation or something. For my car, the wheel can be seen clearly have some side to side movement which causes the clinking noise. And then finally, grab the springs on your suspension. If your bearings is bad, you can feel rough vibration traveling through the springs. It is unmistakable. It feels like rolling a piece of metal on fine sand.

Make sure to hit the brakes first or put the car into N and let the wheels stop before turning off the engine. Don't be like me who immediately shift to P when the wheels are moving.  doh.gif

Another thing I learn is that you can never really tell from which side the abnormal noise is coming from. Don't rely on cabin noise when driving because noise is vibration and vibration travels throughout the body of car.
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Bro should i change the wheel bearing hub too?

 

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