try dt440? but it more expensive i rmbr? but near that price range.
just go jaben and try the cans? 

I'm from kedah. Way too far from jaben. Can only buy the cans based on the reviews of users 

Oh, which part of Kedah?

poison xD

btw, beyerdynamics....all headphones have diff signatures rite....for beyer phones...which is d same level as ms1

Hi, I'm looking for a headphones which is below RM250 price range.. and i've came across DT 231 pro and ATH M30. Doing comparision in term of sound signature between these 2 cans. My requiremnts are :
1) must be comfortable and can cover whole ears, not on top of ears
2) bass must be sufficient since im listening to R&B songs most of the time, but not too much bass

*I cant find much reviews on the DT231 pro on google.. most of them are reviewing the DT231, not pro 

Same level in terms of price?

Probably none actually...or is there...

The DT440 (which I own) serves the purpose of listening to Jazz/Sopranos/Live Classical/Movie Themes kinda music...Studio rock or metal (unless those pre-85s) recordings sounds a bit harsh too my liking, which is where a Grado SR80 (which is owned by a close friend of mine living just a few blocks away) able to 'soften' out the over the top twangs and pitches...I listen to multiple genre and types of music, so if you have a tendency to lean more towards a genre, get the headphones that suits that, simply because you'll be wearing them longer than songs that you occasionally hear.
Both are closed back cans which one is targeted towards mobile travelling and the other, an entry level targeted for studio monitoring purposes. In a way both might suit your bass requirement but not so much in the comfy department. I'm not a fan of the DT231 headband design at all, so I it would be the M30 for me regardless of the sonics quality. AT seems to win in this department, but if you want the perfect one for the budget, may I suggest the Shure SRH-240...its just like RM18 above your budget, but the sounds it produces, really is serious business...

I'm quite new to audiophile..just googled the Shure SRH240. Omg the design.. so tempting. So the SQ of it is good? How about the bass? Do u know anywhere selling it? 

I'm quite new to audiophile..just googled the Shure SRH240. Omg the design.. so tempting. So the SQ of it is good? How about the bass? Do u know anywhere selling it? 

how come didnt see many people discussing the dt880 600ohm? simply because of the impedance?  those overseas audiophile-ers are so crazy bout this. and does jaben carry this model?

i just recabled my dt250/80. will post the pictures soon

aaandd pics are uppzz!!





i want the jack still able to be connected to threaded 3.5mm-6.3mm converter, so here goes DIY jack. lollzzz

sound difference? MUCH better than stock form 

nb: i tried to change the internal wiring as well, but it turned out the sound becomes bassy and muffled..so i replace it back to the original wire

Yes I do agree that the 600ohm version simply giving in better clarity and bass control,making it more balanced then the 250ohm.I did try them both before and the differences are pretty much noticeable at some point.However people here prefer using the DT770pro 250ohm version when comes to beyers.How lovely it is when even with a nokia 5130 it can sound great!For dt880 600ohm version you'll need a good setup to perform it at it's best.Hence a reason why most ppl didn't bother about it.

Yes the Sennheiser HD650 has different sound signature compared to DT880.It's sounds warmer,the mids are more forwarded,making it sounds "musical" compared to DT880 which is "analytic" in most cases.If you want more info about the comparison between those two,head on into this link

http://www.headfonia.com/old-school-trio-a...nnheiser-hd650/

For Sennheiser HD650 the price is Rm1890 while for Beyerdynamic DT880 600ohm it will cost you back RM1500.All the price are been taken from Jaben Malaysia.

@victor: indeed. lots of things change

let me draw you a picture of the stock form first: very smooth and forward mid, treble is roll off, upper bass quantity is too much and gets uncontrolled in rapid kick drum

after recable: treble becomes very good, MUCH LESS roll off. mid gets a little far and not in your face, but remains smooth, hence the soundstage becomes wider and far, like real stage performance if you play live music bass is much better now, very controlled, no more excessive bass quantity, and more aggressive

after recable. this headphone reminds me the sound signature of hd650, but less refined..

FYI, i sucked up all the solder iron inside the headphone as well, and replace it with my favorite solder. it plays much role in the sound as well 
dt880/600 is one of my favorite dynamic headphone out of only few headphones..including hd650 and uls pro2500

you need serious power to pump out the thin mid becomes more thick. well, that's my opinion because i don't really like thin mids. lol

seriously, with proper setup, separation, treble, imaging, are almost on par with my wharfedale  but without proper setup, it's just another 'decent' headphone, not outstanding..

nb: nobody tried dt48e here? that is one serious good sounding beyer..much better than dt880/600