oh ty for the info. id be inclined to get the standalone one then.. hmm but 600ohm through my avr.. i wonder.. haha lemme google and see if its do-able o not

well get package then sell the crossroad edge to someone else
i believe much more value for it

ugh...tubes are tubes no matter wat u wanna call them....if theres tubes then theyre tubes... not something i would even look at.

SS or SS is the only way to go...

my only other option would be....

lol
ss is less hassle to swap and not to mention better resistance than tube amp
then the only thing is headamp gilmore lite

just come across this:
for those who dunno about Jaben




from http://jaben.net/forums/index.php?topic=4135.0

This post has been edited by sukhoi37: Sep 14 2008, 08:19 PM

This one is old post ady lo. That shop is packed. Now he has a new linking shop. Very spacious.

madman
oblivious u havent heard any tube amp b4?
but judging from preference u r a basshead no offense
tube is more warm and into vocal signature
on the hand ss is great for bass and wider soundstage
but wat if u can combine both of them? u can get the best of them (bass , soundstage , warm , synergy ,vocal and not to mention power to drive those power hungry cans)
that is my point
maybe it is a little hassle looking for tube replacement cos in msia hardly u can get any
and life expectancy for tube is around few thousand hours onli
nothing like solid state amps jus swap out and replace with other op amp
jus my 2 cent there

excuse me....but wat makes u think ive never heard tube amps before??? just because i dont like tube amps u assume ive never heard tube amps before???

i dont hate something for no reason man.... Darkvoice 336i...LD MK II...and cant remember another one....

none of them suited me... why?? because of the laid back sound signature of tubes.....so watever the hybrid may be... the laid back sound signature of the tube is still there...

keep in mind i listen to metal....and laid back sound signatures are a HUGE nono....u want to feel the energy...not fall asleep (which is what i felt when trying DT990 + Darkvoice 336i).



also the same reason why i hate sennheisers....fall asleep listening to metal.... no matter wat i tried with the HD650 & HD595...they make me fall asleep....laid back sound signature...

HD650 + Darkvoice 336i even worse

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Sep 15 2008, 12:48 PM

no offense there bro
but since u stated there u r definitely a basshead
but since u into bass and metal i guessing solid state amp r for u
and fyi hd650 pair with darkvoice is best match for me aledi afterall i love the laid back signature of sen and i love the energy feel of beyer as well
btw have u got beyer sound energy cd ?
try playing it to get the beyer sound signature on yur cans

hey guys, may i ask.. how does ur DT880 (250 / 600 ohm) sound when connected to an ipod or a psp?? bad or just low volume?

will the prob be cured by connecting it to an amp alone? or must i need a dac+amp?

thank u

very bad.
i tried the 250ohm with my n82...it sounds shallow and sux.
you can get the 32ohm version.

dont have the synergy CD....but i do have the Chill-Out Session CD.... played before.... sounds good...but the songs boring ler

now wtf is this 32ohm version?? Madman/sukhoi/sep/anyone can u please grace me with oh-but-a-whim of ur knowledge on this and explain to me why are they 3 diff version of the dt880 and what each of them is for. (weakness and strength and any other important details)

thank u

32ohm is definitely easy to drive .

ohm value higher , means the resistance is higher. so you need more powerful amp to power it.

mean while , the lower ohm has lower resistance . so you dont really need an amp to drive it.

correct me if wrong im learning also.

typically the lower the impedance the easier they are to drive...

in the case of the DT990... (based on wat ive read, never tried the 32 or 600ohm version before).

the 32ohm and 250ohm versions supposedly sounds very similar...

the 600ohm howver, is a whole different beast. but of course very hard to drive.

32ohm and 600ohm are officially only available from the manufaktur page now...but jaben in singapore has some stocks of 32ohm and 600ohm variations of the DT880 and DT990.

ok the relations between ohms and ability to drive it i know edi. but i wan to know its relation to performance/sound stage/bass/response/impedance/and all that jazz

cant remember what they were.....i suggest taking a peek over at head-fi...alot has been said about the 600ohm versions over there...


if i remember correctly the 600ohm DT990 uses a different driver as well..

as higher the impedance the more resistance the headphone will be and hence more powerful amp r need to drive those to max potential
let put in this way higher ohm more cleaner the sound and deeper depth
like an proton kancil easier to drive cos it is small but body chassis like tin can and doesnt consume petrol so much
on other hand if u got a 4 wheel suv like honda crv bigger and harder to control but more tougher
this is best i can think of an explanation

k after reading through a few threads on headfi, seems like the 32ohm still needs amping.. haha kk.. ill just get the 600ohm and pray my avr can amp it.. haha

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Added on September 15, 2008, 9:23 pmyeah i thought so remember with the k-701, then kene lecture by mADmAN about efficiency and what not.. and that the 701 even with low ohm is harder to drive.. so i dont really care about this.. haha

This post has been edited by callmevil: Sep 15 2008, 09:23 PM

you need to audit yourself ...

to see which one suit you more.