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Unsure Sam
post Oct 23 2020, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(red4900 @ Oct 22 2020, 11:11 PM)
Is retrenchment mandatory paid by years of service?

First time I heard this. Is this by law?
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No.. this bodoh punya ktard tok kok one.. the 1 month a year is for employees earning 2k and below under the Employment Act.. I doubt any pilot qualify..
Unsure Sam
post Oct 23 2020, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(freeman1 @ Oct 22 2020, 09:56 PM)
Not bad... at least can get 10 months salary if 1 month compensation for 1 year of service
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oi bodoh... sos mana? EA only apply for employees earning 2k and below..
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post Oct 23 2020, 07:35 AM

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QUOTE(Unsure Sam @ Oct 23 2020, 07:34 AM)
oi bodoh... sos mana? EA only apply for employees earning 2k and below..
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Kena tanya backdoor....
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post Oct 23 2020, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(freeman1 @ Oct 22 2020, 09:56 PM)
Not bad... at least can get 10 months salary if 1 month compensation for 1 year of service
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Read.

3 months VSS only
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post Oct 23 2020, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(Unsure Sam @ Oct 23 2020, 07:31 AM)
You understand what is the meaning of retrenchment? "the reduction of costs or spending in response to economic difficulty"

Where you get sos that retrenchment get 10 months salary? Typical ktard talking out of their ass..
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Retrenchment means no compensation. If got last month celery also cukur.
Usually, will offer VSS first. You don't take, next round retrench, you habuk pun Tak ada.
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post Oct 23 2020, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(NB01 @ Oct 23 2020, 07:39 AM)
Retrenchment means no compensation. If got last month celery also cukur.
Usually, will offer VSS first. You don't take, next round retrench, you habuk pun Tak ada.
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Yeah.. Still got some bodo ktards think much better to wait for retrenchment.. doh.gif
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post Oct 23 2020, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(NB01 @ Oct 23 2020, 07:37 AM)
Read.

3 months VSS only
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Syukur... still got 3 months
wanted111who
post Oct 23 2020, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(Unsure Sam @ Oct 23 2020, 07:31 AM)
You understand what is the meaning of retrenchment? "the reduction of costs or spending in response to economic difficulty"

Where you get sos that retrenchment get 10 months salary? Typical ktard talking out of their ass..
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When did I said retrenchment get 10 month salary? Go and understand your own country labor law then come back again and argue.

After you do some labor law research, answer me how much is the compensation for people who work for more than 10 years? As per the article.
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post Oct 23 2020, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(NB01 @ Oct 23 2020, 07:39 AM)
Retrenchment means no compensation. If got last month celery also cukur.
Usually, will offer VSS first. You don't take, next round retrench, you habuk pun Tak ada.
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You sure? is either you kena con by your boss or you're the conman (boss) point 4 below

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...Xvgr03w0b_w5MqW

Owaii... You don't bound within the EA? Kesian...

This post has been edited by wanted111who: Oct 23 2020, 09:31 PM
KamisF
post Oct 23 2020, 09:34 PM

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my dad also kene retrenched by MAS dunno how many years back,

godspeed to those family who are going to be retrenched this time
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post Oct 23 2020, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(Unsure Sam @ Oct 23 2020, 07:34 AM)
oi bodoh... sos mana? EA only apply for employees earning 2k and below..
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After doing some research, you're right. But for those employed for 10 years, foreigners will need to be retrench first before them, junior will come after before them..

The company need to retrench based on Lifo, last in first out. So people employed 1 year, 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 will need to be retrench first before those who employed for 10 years . And company cannot hire new people.

So those worker are practically untouchable until unless the entire company go down.


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post Oct 24 2020, 03:06 AM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Oct 23 2020, 09:24 PM)
When did I said retrenchment get 10 month salary?  Go and understand your own country labor law then come back again and argue.

After you do some labor law research,  answer me how much is the compensation for people who work for more than 10 years? As per the article.
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Please read back your own comment.. Nah.. let me refresh your memory:

"Yes, sounds like a scam, vss =3 month salary, retrenchment = 10 month salary, I rather go for retrenchment.

And using firing to as scare tactics. Want fire also need proof of misconduct. No proof sue the company."

You read article also don't know how to read properly.. Really.. doh.gif RIP Malaysian education system..
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post Oct 24 2020, 06:53 AM

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QUOTE(KamisF @ Oct 23 2020, 09:34 PM)
my dad also kene retrenched by MAS dunno how many years back,

godspeed to those family who are going to be retrenched this time
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Your dad a pilot?
What job he's doing now?
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post Oct 24 2020, 07:18 AM

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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Oct 24 2020, 06:53 AM)
Your dad a pilot?
What job he's doing now?
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not a pilot, aircraft technician, been working there for almost 30 years then kene retrenched.

he’s not working since being retrenched coz of health issue as he fell from the plane’s engine height to the ground before that.

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post Oct 24 2020, 07:23 AM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Oct 23 2020, 09:27 PM)
You sure?  is either you kena con by your boss or you're the conman (boss) point 4 below

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...Xvgr03w0b_w5MqW

Owaii... You don't bound within the EA?  Kesian...
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Sohem.

Post one link macam very expert.

VSS is the compensantion. You don't take, your pasal. Go ask your HR.

Unker used to work in big public listed company btw.

And btw, you know what is bounded under EA?

Celelry under 2K. Yep. Kecian you celery so ciput.

This post has been edited by NB01: Oct 24 2020, 07:28 AM
Nauts
post Oct 24 2020, 07:23 AM

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Retrenchment also based on contract.

Not everything is labour law.

Doubt MAS will employ without someone signing something that is beneficial to them.

Also without money how to pay those 10-100 months retrenchment?

Ooh well...the song "children are our future" is not relevant anymore

simply reply and post rubbish only ...oh well..got eSports ma

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post Oct 24 2020, 07:33 AM

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QUOTE(Nauts @ Oct 24 2020, 07:23 AM)
Retrenchment also based on contract.

Not everything is labour law.

Doubt MAS will employ without someone signing something that is beneficial to them.

Also without money how to pay those 10-100 months retrenchment?

Ooh well...the song "children are our future" is not relevant anymore

simply reply and post rubbish only ...oh well..got eSports ma
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Once your celery above RM2k, it is not protected by labour law anymore.

basically, unless you are kuli like our friend wantedxxxx, you are not protected.
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post Oct 24 2020, 08:00 AM

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It was a gesture during a time where they can afford 1 month per year of service as compensation. Some bank i believe even gave 1.5 or 2 months per year of service iirc.

Now that most company cant afford, they will just follow the law which is non existent for most of us who does not fall under the labor law.

So the only thing you would get is probably the salary for notice period and any balance on the annual leave.

This post has been edited by backspace66: Oct 24 2020, 08:01 AM
wanted111who
post Oct 24 2020, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(NB01 @ Oct 24 2020, 07:23 AM)
Sohem.

Post one link macam very expert.

VSS is the compensantion. You don't take, your pasal. Go ask your HR.

Unker used to work in big public listed company btw.

And btw, you know what is bounded under EA?

Celelry under 2K. Yep. Kecian you celery so ciput.
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OK I admit I missed the part under 2k salary, but how about lifo and foreigners part? It is indeed a scared tactics. Also the company need to proof that they aren't hiring any new blood.

Those guy are untouchable unless the companies willing to retrench all their juniors including themselves.

Who say cannot counter vss offer? Those guys who work 10 years and above does have leverage to get more compensation, more than 3 months.

Also everyone in Malaysia is bound by EA no matter what salary,what position. Only you don't bound by EA.

Don't think only you in Malaysia work with big public listed company, my last 4 companies is all mnc as well, your point is?

This post has been edited by wanted111who: Oct 24 2020, 08:35 AM
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post Oct 24 2020, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(Unsure Sam @ Oct 24 2020, 03:06 AM)
Please read back your own comment.. Nah.. let me refresh your memory:

"Yes, sounds like a scam,  vss =3 month salary,  retrenchment = 10 month salary, I rather go for retrenchment.

And using firing to as scare tactics. Want fire also need proof of misconduct. No proof sue the company."

You read article also don't know how to read properly.. Really..  doh.gif  RIP Malaysian education system..
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What I meant is the terms of services for 10 years retrenchment compensation = 10 months, 11 years is 11 month and so on.

Of course this is for people with income lower than 2k but there is many other conditions like foreigner first out, last in first out, company cannot expand or hiring anyone recently. The company want to retrench, it's basically retrench everyone, the entire company will not left many workers.

This post has been edited by wanted111who: Oct 24 2020, 08:28 AM

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