Hi! I'm looking for recommendations of a good wireless alarm system for my 2.5 storey landed house.
Please share the details, such as brand, cost, quality of service and etc.
There are various brands in the market and the prices vary too much, hence need your comments / feedback based on your past experiences.
Thanks in advance!

never use wireless
stick to good old wires

Personally I'm looking at Hikvision and AJAX system. For a terrace house, it's about 3-4k for Hikvision, 5-6k for AJAX, both DIY, the vendors are charging too much for installation and a big margin over every devices.

may I know where you purchase the device for diy?


thanks

If hikvision, will be a combination of Lazada + Taobao.

If Ajax, cheaper to ship directly from EU, but of coz I've not tried the website, so there's risk involved.

Alarm better not used HIK. Ajax ok.

Agreed.

Seldom failed unless tempered.

What the issue faced?
🤔

Reliability , battery

Same as using wired and wireless internet connection.

Park for future reference

The reason I'm looking for wireless simply easy to maintain and those wiring not messing up interior.
Plus wireless alarm system can DIY easily.
In terms of reliability, I do think there are certain confident level before supplier launch to the market.
I heard quite a good review for ONVIA & BLUGUARD wireless alarm system.
Just checking if any others using and feedback.

https://onvia.my/

https://www.bluguard.com.my/

My parents house using wired bluguard since 15 years back and no issue till now.
Just some sensors and backup battery replacement.

Are you using AJAX wireless system now?
I believe both Hikvision and AJAX are able to manage via mobile apps, right?
Do you mind to share your feedback on the wireless system?
Any issue for the battery replacement and the connection issue?
Thanks!

any guide ..step how to diy installation of CCTV?

thanks ...

is this based on personal exp? care to share?

is this based on personal exp? care to share?

My renovation will start end of this year, I'm just at the stage of deciding which company to go with. I think wireless system is matured enough, definitely more expensive than wired option, but can do away with all the messy wiring.

I will probably get AJAX, seems like the easiest option to DIY, unfortunately the most expensive. One of the HK's official distributor I've contacted is using AJAX for their own office, and they have good review for AJAX.

In terms of security, AJAX a lot more convincing, as they are more like a tech company as compared to the other older brand which started out as security company and now ventured into tech to keep up with time. These company normally know nth about cyber security, but they offered things like remote access via app and stuff, i am not very convinced they know what they are doing.

If you are installing after reno, go for wireless.

A good wired installer will avoid major hacking unless necessary during reno. Time is of essence. The faster he completes, he can proceed to next job.

Wired and wireless pro and con .... plenty to read in the net and form your own opinion. I am just stating mine and you can differ if you think wireless is a better option.

BTW, are you installing cctv together ?

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Oct 20 2020, 10:57 AM

since you are renovating, please lay the cable.
you can still choose to use wireless later

but dont lay cable now, cannot u turn jor.


from what i used before, those wireless alarms for my office. end up abandon

1. using obscure 12V remote control battery
2. operate at 433mhz which is easily intefere with other people autogate.
3. you wont know if the sensor is alive or not. maybe test today it works, tomorrow battery dead.
4. very limited sensor types. eg the glass break sensor may not be as adjustable. wireless motion IR is impossible to due to the high power consumption.
5. almost no way to upgrade. if one sensor fail, very expensive to replace, if its even available.

Having existing alarm + CCTV system for the subsale I bought.
But they are relatively older, probably around 10 years.
Thinking to upgrade the complete alarm + CCTV system in one go.
Noticed wireless system fits the purpose, that's why considering wireless option.
Also, it is easier to manage when away from home.

Not thinking that wireless is better, just hoping that it's a decent choice. No way that wireless can be more stable than wireless right. My CCTV i've sourced it myself, I buy Reolink directly from their website. Again, because the installation is a bit brainless so I source myself.

For ajax:
1. battery is built in the hub, can provide up to 16 hours, only concern is how long can the battery last in useful life span over many years
2. don't know about 433 mhz interference
3. True, but will get notified if any devices drop from the hub, and for battery, will get notification to change the battery when low batt, so should not be a problem, just troublesome for some
4. For commercial maybe lacking la, but for residential, mostly we need door contact sensor, and a few more other sensor like motion, glass break etc. If you look at AJAX, their product line quite comprehensive: https://ajax.systems/products/
5. In fact this is 1 big reason why i did not go with wired option. To upgrade or add sensor, you need to worried about wiring issues. Whereby for wireless option, you simple buy or replace your devices and you can easily DIY

Why don't you go for a mixed option? Can older brand like blugard, paradox allow wired + wireless option? You just need to replace the controller and sensors that are wired, then add more wireless sensors you needed where there's no wire.

Any good hardware is of no use if the connection is unstable or poor. Honestly, you wont have regrets using wired and is money well spent.

You wont have to bothered about is hardware or connection issues.

I am sure you wont want to find out one day when your house is broken into and you are not sure is hardware or connection issues.

My Paradox alarm and cctv is 11 years and not a single issue.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Oct 20 2020, 06:10 PM

1. CCTV can use back the infra (RG59), just change the camera and decorder as you wish.
2. Wireless Alarm just get the one compatible with TUYA app platform. You can also choose Alarm with GSM.

Friend this is year 2020. They even have Sigmesh wireless alarm now.
And most of the those wireless sensors comes with battery/device status.

Yaya. Back then no zigbee

Is the decoder supporting online viewing via mobile apps?
If yes, will just upgrade with newer decoder and CCTV with better resolution.
Then replace wired alarm system to wireless which easier to manage.
I'm considering ONVIA or BLUGUARD wireless system.
Any feedback or review on the two brands? Or any recommendation for wireless system with good review?

1.Most of the decorder support online viewing via mobile apps. you can look for brand like HIKVISION or DAHUA etc

2. Wireless alarm you can look for 'TUYA SMART/ SMART LIFE Wireless WIFI/GSM ALARM' at SHOPEE or LAZADA. Definitely the PENG LENG CHENG solutions.

Onvia I think is rebranded Tuya
For Tuya alarm better wait for Sigmesh version.

This post has been edited by adamw: Oct 21 2020, 07:08 PM

compare 8channels 5Mp set .. hikvision price double the dahua price ...both brand are from china also ?
in term of durable ..which better ?


thanks ..

anyone install AHD smart 2in1 CCTV+alarm system ?
how is this ahd?

thanks ..

1. Thanks and got good review for HIKVISION. Will try it out.

2. Is Tuya durable? China product, right? Are you using it?

Onvia set is pricey compared to Tuya. Not sure if they are having similar quality, just the branding and packaging varies?

Sorry, what is Sigmesh version? Please explain as I'm new in this. Thanks!

Dlink good bundled with cloud recording fox 48 hours or can subsctibe for more. Simple deployment.

Thanks for your feedback.
Are you using Dlink system? Any comment? Is it functioning well as compared to other wireless alarm system?
The price is quite affordable and seems good solution to connect all devices/sensors

For this if need explanation can PM. Sigmesh is bluetooth mesh.

I would not advised to used Dlink if resolution/quality is of importance. They are not a CCTV company so it's just run of the mill products like TPlink, oem from others.

The good thing is you can mix match different dlink under single login, foc 3 device 48 hours of recording, alarm function etc all pretty standard. Yes I’m using couple units and different premises as well. Quality of recording is good and can be downloaded to mobile or pc. So get rid of network onsite recording, all on cloud. Some camera u can have 2 way audio as well, you cant be wrong. So u need the camera, power supply and extend wifi using cheap repeaters and that will do just fine. We can setup this cheap reliable setup, or if budget is huge for more expensive setup but why would you do that right. Setup is easy, each unit have qrcode, scan using phone apps. More details or free advice just ask.

HK, Dahua, Tuya, everything is china product. But again, HK and Dahua is both the world leader in this industry.

Can never go wrong with HIK/Dahua for CCTV. Tuya camera kind of sucks!

those selling at shopee ...full set ..just pull wire..for diy installation only ?

after that download install the app that can view in phone..
how about triggering if stranger around the house ?

and the dome camera can install under awning that not kena water ? or outdoor must use bullet camera ?

shopee one ...4 bullets camera and 4 dome camera ..

i plan to install all at out door ..

thanks ...

If installed under awning it's ok.

ok..

regarding the rg59 cable with power line ...how long can it go per camera ?

the cable can put at top of the roof? camera install at the back of the house ..then cable go up to the roof and down in front of the house ....

thanks ...

wireless alarm sensors already use RH433 or 315 MHz for decades. So the connection stability already proven.

you have to compare their specs, see if equivalent, else the price different would not be so big.

Durability very depend, since now cctv become a fast moving product.

seller told hikvision 5mp more clear than dahua 5mp ....

Spec says 500m but if you running new cabling why not direct use cat6?

cat6 not only for network ?cat 6 not built in power cable right?
is it easy the cable built in power cable ..2in1 ..

Oh, sorry did not realised you ask for analog. Anyway Analog also can used Video balun to transmit power/signal via Cat6/Cat5e. But IPC also very cheap now. Why don't you go for POE NVR+IPC.

Ethernet cable can transmit power and data. All the new IP cameras are POE (power over ethernet) so nth new about this already. But for your case i think you are using analog which is diff.

ipc meaning ?

I just start browsing cctv..found this package price is good ..the package come with rg59 cable...

don't know got poe ....now just know it ...haha...need to find out more ..

my house currently no cctv..plan to diy installation ..the cable will running beside the wall and in to inside via windows frame...
the back camera will go up roof and down front wall ...cable shorter if running surrounding wall from back to front ...

any recommend base on my wiring ?

i need 8camera ...semid house

thanks ...


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Ask for DVR model
Hope it is not 5MP-N. Local seller?

This post has been edited by adamw: Oct 23 2020, 03:11 PM

ds7208 model dvr..
yes ..local seller ...



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Just curious, this package looks very cheap. But are you installing it yourself or get someone to do it? If it is the latter, how much roughly would it be? Ballpark.

install myself ...just pull cable from outside to inside house ..put casing on it ....drill hole for camera ......
isn't like that ?

the package already complete set ...

Not sure what's the work involved. I guess depends on if you do internal wiring and if more power points needed. Basically want to find out roughly the price diff if we get the same solution from a vendor plus installation vs we buy and DIY ourselves. I may be moving too and new house is double storey terrace. Need to install quite comprehensive security alarm and camera.

No power points needed for camera, the cable comes with dc jack power from the Silver color PSU.

Not bad, real 5Mp recording.

terrance house just front and rear only ..side no need ...quick straight forward ...
if renovation can conceal the wire ..cable...its look nice ...

but if POe...still need the silver colour PSU?
Poe ..the power from the dvr?

the package worth ?just diy placement camera and cabling job done only right ?
Poe full set package not much sale in shopee ....

thanks ...

Yes, POE will be much neater. 5Mp IPC cost very much higher than Analog and normally distributor keep less stock of IP based system due to higher cost therefore only have sales on Analog in Shopee.

ic...analog will be outdated soon or later ?
then Poe become cheaper...

They have been saying that for the last 10 years! Now even have 4k analog, guess as long as there's demand it will never go away!

haha...4k analog..

so analog still wont face out so soon ..maybeanother 10years..

for my case...installation outside the house wall ..
rg59 with power line better or poe better ?

poe use normal cat6 lan cable ?how about input power to the camera ?

The lan cable will give power+data. If price not an issue go for IP. Quality at least 30% better than analog.

ip meaning wireless ?
ip 2mp stil better than analog 5mp?

IP can be wired or wireless. 5Mp Analog slightly better but provided the sensors are Sony IMX335 vs IM307.

more advanced...zoom in the sensor model...mostly seller no write so details ...

Even HIK/Dahua camera never divulge this but looking at the price we roughly knows.

hik/dahua no full package selling at shopee ...need buy seperate cat6 cable and PSU...

now install analog still not consider outdated rite?


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I think it's outdated. They make new analog product probably just to cater to certain big corporate client, but it's pretty obvious that the main focus is IP camera. Yes, it's true to say they will continue to support analog for many years, but you probably wont get all the new improvement and technology lo.

Just like car, still got manual, but most of the manual is just the basic spec, you want all the high tech feature you go buy the top spec auto one lo. Will manual go away anytime soon? nope, not at all, manual will be there forever and ever. but your choice is limited and will get worst.

Whats's your requirements?
Maybe, I work out my package for you:-
5Mp Sony IMX 335 metal ir dome
5Mp Sony IMX 335 metal bullet
20x Sony IMX 335 PTZ
8ch videopark poe nvr
cat5e cable is 20m or 30m I fotgot
hdd sendiri beli

true true..

5mp 8pcs ...bullet + dome...for outdoor install underroof..awning ..
8chpoe nvr..
cat5e or cat6 ..
hdd 1tb ..
psu ?

roughly how much ?
source buy from ?
big amount can installment ..lol ...


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POE Nvr no need PSU. Plug & Play. Source of cos China. No installment. My advice go for 2 or 3TB even though I still have 10+ 1tb bought during seagate's event 3 years ago

china selling hik? dahua worth of value ? no need speed for branded cam...

any poe nvr will do ?
software app any also can use ? or need matching with poe nvr?

10+ pcs of 1tb hdd as spare for you ?

I imported 20 4ch kits h.265 3 years+ ago for sale but nvr got issues so i just keep.

nvr got what problem ?

wifi ip cam look good ...no need cat or rg cable ..just need power ...wonder 1 psu to supply 8pcs of camera?

Totally disagree.
Some anolog cameras now can do analytic with Certain model DVR

Both ip & anolog camera have their pros and cons. Send of the day depend what you want

Bad caps, after sometime it will pop & hdd not detected.

for normal home user ..just can record ..clear ..already enough right ..useless shop lot ..or factory ...
so analog still good to go for it ..
but analog still at least 5mp camera ...

over current ? hardware design problem ...
any china brand can recommend?others than hik ..dahua

ip cam..dahua 2mp enough clear or not ?but not sure wat sensor ..

thanks ..

i think is SC sensor for those rm11x not sony 307

wifi is 8ch ...without hdd 1299 .consider good value ?


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Depends on what they giving, ask them what app. If XMEye or the likes forget it.

app ippro...

xmeye no good ?price is cheaper...

Ippro also is Xiongmai, worst brand in China, for one or two wireless camera is fine but as a system my advice is still HIK/Dahua.

thank ...will look for hik or dahua...

install mid range and upgrade for future or straight install high end ?

Depends on your budget. Maybe outdoor camera go for higher resolution.

full hd consider high resolution even is 2mp?

At least 5Mp.

5mp analog is cheaper ...

poe..ip 5mp expensive ...

Hi! Yup, I'm thinking the same.
Anyone know the estimated price for replacing alarm system wiring?
I got two quotation and the price difference is quite significant.
Is the wiring for alarm system costly? Kindly advise. Thanks in advance

I just bought my AJAX system, 1 hub, 2 key fob, 1 keypad, 7 door magnet, 1 motion sensor, 1 indoor siren, 1 outdoor siren for 3.7k++. For your reference.

AJAX is wireless system right?
Anyone knows the price for replacing new set of wiring for wired alarm system?
Thanks!

includes installation plus commissioning?
is existing wiring giving issues? any renovation work being done?

This post has been edited by adamw: Nov 18 2020, 10:46 AM

Not sure if existing wiring have any issues.
Plan to replace it since it was installed more than 10 years.
Yup, will renovate the whole house