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hungrygodzilla
post Oct 19 2020, 06:17 PM

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Personally I'm looking at Hikvision and AJAX system. For a terrace house, it's about 3-4k for Hikvision, 5-6k for AJAX, both DIY, the vendors are charging too much for installation and a big margin over every devices.
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post Oct 19 2020, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Oct 19 2020, 06:30 PM)
may I know where you purchase the device for diy?
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If hikvision, will be a combination of Lazada + Taobao.

If Ajax, cheaper to ship directly from EU, but of coz I've not tried the website, so there's risk involved.
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post Oct 20 2020, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Oct 20 2020, 12:01 AM)
Reliability , battery
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is this based on personal exp? care to share?

QUOTE(mini orchard @ Oct 20 2020, 06:19 AM)
Same as using wired and wireless internet connection.
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is this based on personal exp? care to share?

QUOTE(BTKee @ Oct 20 2020, 09:53 AM)
Are you using AJAX wireless system now?
I believe both Hikvision and AJAX are able to manage via mobile apps, right?
Do you mind to share your feedback on the wireless system?
Any issue for the battery replacement and the connection issue?
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My renovation will start end of this year, I'm just at the stage of deciding which company to go with. I think wireless system is matured enough, definitely more expensive than wired option, but can do away with all the messy wiring.

I will probably get AJAX, seems like the easiest option to DIY, unfortunately the most expensive. One of the HK's official distributor I've contacted is using AJAX for their own office, and they have good review for AJAX.

In terms of security, AJAX a lot more convincing, as they are more like a tech company as compared to the other older brand which started out as security company and now ventured into tech to keep up with time. These company normally know nth about cyber security, but they offered things like remote access via app and stuff, i am not very convinced they know what they are doing.

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post Oct 20 2020, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Oct 20 2020, 10:29 AM)
If you are installing after reno, go for wireless.

A good wired installer will avoid major hacking unless necessary during reno. Time is of essence. The faster he completes, he can proceed to next job.

Wired and wireless pro and con .... plenty to read in the net and form your own opinion. I am just stating mine and you can differ if you think wireless is a better option.

BTW, are you installing cctv together ?
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Not thinking that wireless is better, just hoping that it's a decent choice. No way that wireless can be more stable than wireless right. My CCTV i've sourced it myself, I buy Reolink directly from their website. Again, because the installation is a bit brainless so I source myself.

QUOTE(fireballs @ Oct 20 2020, 10:55 AM)
since you are renovating, please lay the cable.
you can still choose to use wireless later

but dont lay cable now, cannot u turn jor.
from what i used before, those wireless alarms for my office. end up abandon

1. using obscure 12V remote control battery
2. operate at 433mhz  which is easily intefere with other people autogate.
3. you wont know if the sensor is alive or not. maybe test today it works, tomorrow battery dead.
4. very limited sensor types. eg the glass break sensor may not be as adjustable. wireless motion IR is impossible to due to the high power consumption.
5. almost no way to upgrade. if one sensor fail, very expensive to replace, if its even available.
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For ajax:
1. battery is built in the hub, can provide up to 16 hours, only concern is how long can the battery last in useful life span over many years
2. don't know about 433 mhz interference
3. True, but will get notified if any devices drop from the hub, and for battery, will get notification to change the battery when low batt, so should not be a problem, just troublesome for some
4. For commercial maybe lacking la, but for residential, mostly we need door contact sensor, and a few more other sensor like motion, glass break etc. If you look at AJAX, their product line quite comprehensive: https://ajax.systems/products/
5. In fact this is 1 big reason why i did not go with wired option. To upgrade or add sensor, you need to worried about wiring issues. Whereby for wireless option, you simple buy or replace your devices and you can easily DIY


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post Oct 20 2020, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(BTKee @ Oct 20 2020, 11:15 AM)
Having existing alarm + CCTV system for the subsale I bought.
But they are relatively older, probably around 10 years.
Thinking to upgrade the complete alarm + CCTV system in one go.
Noticed wireless system fits the purpose, that's why considering wireless option.
Also, it is easier to manage when away from home.
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Why don't you go for a mixed option? Can older brand like blugard, paradox allow wired + wireless option? You just need to replace the controller and sensors that are wired, then add more wireless sensors you needed where there's no wire.
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post Oct 22 2020, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(BTKee @ Oct 22 2020, 09:02 AM)
1. Thanks and got good review for HIKVISION. Will try it out.

2. Is Tuya durable? China product, right? Are you using it?
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HK, Dahua, Tuya, everything is china product. But again, HK and Dahua is both the world leader in this industry.
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post Oct 23 2020, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Oct 23 2020, 01:19 PM)
cat6 not only for network ?cat 6 not built in power cable right?
is it easy the cable built in power cable ..2in1 ..
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Ethernet cable can transmit power and data. All the new IP cameras are POE (power over ethernet) so nth new about this already. But for your case i think you are using analog which is diff.
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post Oct 26 2020, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Oct 26 2020, 10:08 AM)
hik/dahua no full package selling at shopee ...need buy seperate cat6 cable and PSU...

now install analog still not consider outdated rite?
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I think it's outdated. They make new analog product probably just to cater to certain big corporate client, but it's pretty obvious that the main focus is IP camera. Yes, it's true to say they will continue to support analog for many years, but you probably wont get all the new improvement and technology lo.

Just like car, still got manual, but most of the manual is just the basic spec, you want all the high tech feature you go buy the top spec auto one lo. Will manual go away anytime soon? nope, not at all, manual will be there forever and ever. but your choice is limited and will get worst.
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post Nov 18 2020, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(BTKee @ Nov 17 2020, 07:53 PM)
Hi! Yup, I'm thinking the same.
Anyone know the estimated price for replacing alarm system wiring?
I got two quotation and the price difference is quite significant.
Is the wiring for alarm system costly? Kindly advise. Thanks in advance
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I just bought my AJAX system, 1 hub, 2 key fob, 1 keypad, 7 door magnet, 1 motion sensor, 1 indoor siren, 1 outdoor siren for 3.7k++. For your reference.
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post Nov 19 2020, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(BTKee @ Nov 18 2020, 10:33 AM)
AJAX is wireless system right?
Anyone knows the price for replacing new set of wiring for wired alarm system?
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AJAX is wireless. For wired option, why dont you just message the company directly they will refer you to a local partner near you and they can advise.

QUOTE(adamw @ Nov 18 2020, 10:45 AM)
includes installation plus commissioning?

is existing wiring giving issues? any renovation work being done?
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No, just the price of equipment. I planned to DIY, since it's wireless, all the sensor you kinda just need to stick to the wall, for siren, i'll just get the renovation company to help me with the wiring. The hub just plug and play kinda. I watched some of the video of the AJAX setup, seems like pretty idiot proof. Anyway, I have one vendor quote me 1800RM to install and set up AJAX for me, another company quote me 300RM. So if all else failed, and I can't set up myself, i still have a backup to get the vendor to do it for 300RM.
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post Nov 20 2020, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Nov 19 2020, 11:18 AM)
Please introduce the rm300 guy to me brows.gif
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Sorry my bad, just went to check the quotation, it's RM350, 50 more than i remember but should be ok la.... but this company is in Johor, Skysonic Technology.
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post Nov 20 2020, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Nov 20 2020, 12:37 AM)
yes, 350 is still ok but too bad I am in Klang valley.
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If you are not in a rush to set up the alarm system you probably can wait a bit, my house should be ready in Jan, by then I will try to set it up myself and provide feedback / guide here. Else you can just go ahead and get a set, i feel that it should be really easy.
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post Nov 24 2020, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(lactose_operon @ Nov 21 2020, 11:40 AM)
Hi. Mind sharing where you bought the system?
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From Locks n more in shopee, and ATO via their website. Some item is cheaper in diff shop.


 

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