TX2005?

I could not imagine how it looks like if the baby is no more under warranty..

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Added on February 3, 2009, 4:06 pmOk but which TX2500 model?



This post has been edited by obm_nlh: Feb 3 2009, 04:06 PM

Hear, hear.. I think in one of my previous responses, I did mentioned why you need to get this model...

Briefly, from my observation, with the amount that you need to spend especially if you opt for the higher range model (sorry, not applicable to Malaysian market nowdays.. boo.. boo..)

1. Price .. steep for the higher models
2. Featurewise as non-tablet unit, you can get better ones than TX
3. Speedwise, see answer no. 2
4. Video, see answer no. 2
5. Spacewise .. average, TX seems to be using average space 120GB to 250GB
TX2 seems to go to 300GB
6. Tablet feature .. average

BUT, don't be despaired. Considering Items 1 to 6, TX series especially the newer ones, it's a worthwhile investment if you are really looking for a tablet PC. Other tablets seems to start from RM8k+ and easily breach the RM10k mark. For TX, it's worth for every sen you spent on it. If you looking for glamour or normal laptop, forget about this model.

This post has been edited by obm_nlh: Feb 13 2009, 09:29 PM

Very strange but after post-sales service in Malaysia. My TX broke down (keyboard) before and the treatment was to me acceptable. Maybe the Malaysian version needs some PR work groomed into them as part of the service training.

Why getting TX2000? How much is the new price for the unit?

To me, the seller should at least glad to sell off old models ASAP and recoup his losses fast.

If RM4k, better get the low end TX2.

Well, we been discussing on TX1000 series and its shortcoming for awhile. On our part as customers, we need to inform each other on issues to be aware of. So, keep in touch with LYN's forums.

That's with 8GB RAM option, right?

what's the whole specs? 4GB or 8GB max?

See bottom face plate.. you should see something somewhere there.

I thought yours is a 2.2GHz processor? 3.3 is too slow.. My Ultra X2 can easier throttle at 3.6 without losing some of the junks .. hahahahaha

Hate / love situation ...

Wow, dragged in the spotlight ..

I like to state the fact straight: I never condorn the usage of such tactics to sell product not up to its full standard quality. Being a TX user since it's first inception and knowing the usual heat problems from AMD CPUs, I normally used HP recommended settings to avoid future problems. Unluckily, the incident of Nvidia did happened to some of us, the TX1k users. That's a fact of life even with the odds against us, the users.

Nevertheless, you can also opt for the insurance package to protect your investment if you want. For me, technology is evolving very fast. The laptop is just a tool to assist me and it is not an asset. You need to apply the concept of equipment's depreciation in order not to feel the pinch from the development wave. If I can utilise the laptop over two years, that will be great - a bonus for me. Same concept to be applied if you have your own car.

Whether you buy HP or not, it is still your decision. I am neither promoting HP products nor have self-interest in said company (shareholder). Like me, after looking through some tablets, HP is still offering the best solution for my hard earned "RM". They are not perfect, no doubt. If you don't want to be the early adopter, you can still wait until the given technology settled down and all the bugs fixed.

Like me, I need to use it (tablet) to assist my work. I also not willing to spend >RM8k just to get one. Regardless, with this kind of investment I am spending, I can get better product than the TX, no doubt.

For your info, I am still waiting for TX2's technology to settle down. With the release of Windows 7 just around the corner, full compatibility is an important issue to me. With the available time, I hope that HP will be able to fix some drawbacks exist with the current model.

For the business ethics issue, it need to be discussed in another forum, if possible. I think this forum is to discuss and help out TX users especially the new ones. Try to take the negative issues and convert them to positive ones. A sour lemon still a sour lemon.. maybe we need to make some lemonade with the help of some sugar. Don't be despaired - together, we can make things happen.

Clarification to some of your responses ..

Well, each person has his/her own interpretation on how to spend the hard earned money. To be prudent, some rational especially in decision making alongside benefit/cost ratio analysis would be very applicable here.

For me, I only expect my laptop to last me two years. By then, it's already behind the main stream (or put it in another word, outdated). If I can use it or recoup the initial capital outlay beyond this period, it is a bonus to me. As I said earlier, I don't consider the lappy as a real asset .. just like my car too. Once the item already served its useful lifespan, it should no longer carry a value to you. You may interpret yours differently.

Let say, for 3 years I need to buy 3 TX units say 3xRM3k = RM9k. May be it only last me 1 year due to hardware fault etc. Thats RM9k spanning over 3 year ... NPV less that if you know how to calculate it. If I buy another brand, it going to cost me easily over that RM9k mark. That's already a saving here.

Just image, I could invest the 2nd RM3k for 1 year and the 3rd RM3k for 2 years and gain some time based benefits here as well. Computers tend to appreciate in value instead of depreciate. But owing one, will be the reverse. RM3k unit now and RM3k next year not going to be same specifications.

Just for argument sake, the alternative costs the same, RM9k. Well, it's the same cost but different NPV. On the 2nd year, I buy another one as per planned. I don't think you'll get the same model but a better one. On the third year, it will be a better model than the 2nd year one. Technically and financially, I am gaining here.. adopting this approach than buying the expensive model.

No, merely just buying an expensive unit does not constitute a prudent way of handling things.

Yes, as I said earlier, whether you want to buy or not, the decision is still yours. If you know the model has problem, please do not buy it. Don't just buy it just because it looks good or it's a fashion to follow. Do proper research on the potential units and don't just buy because it is on sale or just at spur of the moment. You know how much toil it took to save or beg to get the "mulah" to the right amount, I bet you.

Off the topic - sorry. Yes, you can plant any tree you like in your yard. But you will not catch me planting a durian tree there even it sounds very good at this time. The long term gain will not answer the long term problem it is going to bring me. So, the lemon tree seems to be a better option. By the way, I don't have a lemon tree but a mango infront. Hahahaaha..

Yep, that's why we're for. Helping each other.

This post has been edited by obm_nlh: Feb 27 2009, 05:04 PM

Agree.. It seems cool to have the "transformer" to show off to friends. But heck, if you don't use it, the same amount of "fulus" can buy a better notebook.

You also cannot compare the TX series with a netbook as they are in different league by themselves. Morale of story, make sure you know what you want to do with your laptop and from the access the product life span. Mind you, nothing will last forever. You have to accept some common break even point for your investment. However, this does not apply for real estate.

Further clarification to your queries:

As NPV or other decision making technique is not the scope of the forum topic, I am not going to elaborate further on this.

You can never tell how long a unit can last. It could failed on the day you received it or never (passed your expected lifespan of the product). Life is a gamble. Some people covers the uncertainties with insurance. Even if the unit did not failed, it may be stolen or damaged during transit.

To tell you the truth, X61 did not even make my list when I decided to buy my 1st TX (TX1k series). At the time, a TX cost about RM5,500 RRP with the closest one cost under RM8,000 followed by RM10,000. Lucky you to buy one at RM3000.

My friend and I bought the 1st batch of TX model. His is still alive and kicking well. I think the latter batch has problems with the video chipset and heating problem.

In our case, our initial investment at least 45% cheaper than nearest possible one already passed due its normal life (as per our specifications). What else do you want?

As I said earlier, you have to decide your decision making parameters - mine may not be the same as yours. To me, I am satisfied with what I have even though some people think otherwise. BTW, the earlier units did not have better touch screen ability as per nowdays.

No, costlier solution does not mean a better choice. It really depends on your decision making parameters you have set earlier. In engineering, we were stressed the need to look into cost-benefit ratios.

I never said that. A well thought or rational acquisition will minimise your chances for a bad deal. Yes, manufacturer suppose to standby their products. That's what product warranty is there for.

Yes, it does play an important factor to your decision making process. As per noted by me and some other forumers here, PLEASE select this unit IF you want to utilise the touchscreen in tablet mode. If it is for trend or fashion, my advise to the buyer is that there are a lot more better models with the amount of money you're going to spend.

Like me, I need my touchscreen in tablet mode capability due to work requirement. TX series, surpassed my expectation and seems to get even better as days go by. Nevertheless, I am still waiting for current TX2 series to settle down especially support for Windows 7 and availability of a speedier unit before again jumping into the new bandwagon.

BTW, I also use other brands - HP is just one of them.

This post has been edited by obm_nlh: Feb 28 2009, 01:39 AM

Better get TX2..

Maybe TX2 with Windows 7?

Maybe towards end of 2009, perhaps..

Well, just in time to save up for one .. hahahaha