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post Jan 13 2021, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(moto-moto @ Jan 13 2021, 12:28 PM)
hey guys, anyone here play mona?
i look at video to utilised her ult is pyro>mona burst> wait 3 sec> then pyro

The number i get is always very low 30k. mona level 90& diluc lvl 70. both crit rate at around 50%
not sure why i couldn't get near 100k damage
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Try the following steps:

Step 1 - Mona normal attack or use E to apply Hydro debuff on enemy
Step 2 - Sucrose use Q to Swirl & activate 4 Viridescent Venerer ability
Step 3 - Bring out your Bouken da Bouken & slam his Q
Step 4 - Use Mona to Q
Step 5 - Swap to Bouken da Bouken & use E while Omen is active.

Other prerequisite conditions for 1m damage Mona:

1. 2 Hydro & 2 Noblesse on Mona. Whether to prioritize Energy Recharge or Elemental Mastery, up to RNGesus.
2. 4 Noblesse on Bouken da Bouken
3. 4 Viridescent on Sucrose prioritizing Elemental Mastery.
4. Minimum A4 Sucrose & if possible C6 too
5. R5 Thrilling Tales on Sucrose
6. The 4th member of your party must be a Pyro


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post Jan 13 2021, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(danger46 @ Jan 13 2021, 02:21 PM)
ah I didnt even enter that domain before, probably will farm that one after I get her lvl and bow high level  rclxm9.gif
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But your idea isn't that far off either.
Pump up her Elemental Mastery really high with Wanderer's Troupe & you'd probably be doing godly Melt charged attacks. Just need Gouba to constantly breathe fire on the enemy for you to melt.
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post Jan 13 2021, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Zen Qiu Gaming @ Jan 13 2021, 03:36 PM)
Amos seems to sorta double her charged atk dmg due to her charged2 hit-to-splash duration extending the bow effect mod. Those using harp deals like around half of what amos is dealing.

Tbh most non amos user dmg seems pretty underwhelming for me. I mean sure shes great for sure WITH amos bow, but what if you dont own 1?  hmm.gif

i wouldnt say these showcases are bad, but looking at their builds, you need to ask yourself, do you have similar level and resources of investment to actually bring her up to that level.

where do you stand if you dont own amos bow?

im interested in IWinToLose Gaming's weapon comparison test, his data is solid the last time i watched his take.

But i personally do share certain concerns bout future power creep too. Id still reserve a lil caution bout ganyu for now, till more tests are made before deciding to go down the rabbit hole  laugh.gif
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Try Viridescent Hunt, though the crit rate sub stat is absolutely wasted on her. But AoE icicles focused on the group of mobs pulled by the tornado looks pretty good too. There's too many numbers flying around but I think I saw 2k damage per icicle.
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post Jan 13 2021, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(Zen Qiu Gaming @ Jan 13 2021, 04:20 PM)
was thinking among the lines of going 4 pc wanderers instead of relying additional crits from the 4 pc cryo set....i mean sure you lose 15% cryo too...but what if?

so its (amos x 4 pc cryo) = (harp x 4 pc wanderers). the only thing stopping me is i dont need her atm laugh.gif

i do want Hutao (megumin) for waifu and xiao for anemo dps (lesser elemental restriction)
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Well yea, that's another interesting build. Use Viridescent Hunt to compensate the lost of crit rate from using Wander's Troupe. Coincidentally yesterday, I got a Wanderer's Troupe Headgear with Elemental Mastery & a Wanderer's Troupe Timepiece with Elemental Mastery. And I seem to have interesting Flower & Feather for Wanderer's Troupe.

High quality bait indeed sweat.gif
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post Jan 13 2021, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(danger46 @ Jan 13 2021, 04:33 PM)
time to build WT Ganyu  brows.gif
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Ahhhhh...........lemme prepare some chickens, ducks, goats, cocogoat, buffalos & cows as offering to RNGesus first. Then only ready to wish for Ganyu.

QUOTE(Zen Qiu Gaming @ Jan 13 2021, 04:37 PM)
word  nod.gif but its more like i dont wanna spend more on primos later on lmaooooo

same, did some pulls for con1 xingqiu, still weighing in on con2, i really dont want to max my xiangling cons now laugh.gif
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Just du-it! Xingqiu's constellation is damn addictive lol.gif
I told myself, that if I ever get C1 Xingqiu, I'll immediately build a new team with him. When I finally got his C1 yesterday, I was friggin happy. Few minutes later, damn that C2 looks so broken with my Childe. Spend more wishes & managed to get C2 Xingqiu!! Now I really want his C3 lol. All of his constellation is amazing except for the C4.
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post Jan 13 2021, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(moto-moto @ Jan 13 2021, 09:20 PM)
the crit damaage and crit rate is from mona or the pyro character that burst the bubble?
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Mona.

Step 3 - Bring out your Bouken da Bouken & slam his Q
Step 4 - Use Mona to Q and it'll vaporize
Step 5 - Swap to Bouken da Bouken, use E to re-apply pyro while Omen is active & Stellaris Phantasm will explode causing a massive vaporize reaction.

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post Jan 14 2021, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(lclun @ Jan 14 2021, 10:07 AM)
Hahaa ikr. Mine was c2 and did this to get one more.
Same, saving for ayaka banner now. Probably another 2-3 months away which is good.
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XingQiu is one of those few with amazing constellations haha. That's why damn addictive. Plus, he's S Tier DPS support too. I think the only one I felt redundant on him is the constellation that boost his E levels.
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post Jan 14 2021, 05:21 PM

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Would be nice if they introduce domains that takes at least 10 minutes to clear. Currently, domains generally only takes few minutes to clear. Whalers clear it below a minute. Add that with condensed resins = only half the time needed to farm the domain.

For those who wanna keep repeating the domains or bosses, we can still repeat it & play non-stop. Just no resins to claim the rewards, that's all laugh.gif I often help my friends clear domains & bosses without claiming anything.

Time wall is needed, or else hardcore players will get bored within a week & quit = RIP monthly sales. Genshin got no PvP content to prolong the end game.
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post Jan 14 2021, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(Zen Qiu Gaming @ Jan 14 2021, 06:22 PM)
tbh id prefer more multiplayer designs thats fun with decent duration/mechanics, childe fight is heading in the right direction, but i dont think they will make it too difficult either to cater for mobile players.

another issue is with the new multiplayer design like dragonspine regisvine, theres pretty much no incentive to do multiplayer, instead you sorta get punished for doing multiplayer, slightly harder fights with similar rewards.

Having no pvp is good for genshin in particular imho, you have less toxic player base, lesser balancing issue, so they can focus more on their stronger point which is the story. Players are less obliged to spend on unnecessary requirements to clear "content". Imagine starting a battle only to get sucked into Venti ult  laugh.gif
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Tragically it's quite hard to judge whether PC, console or mobile has the larger market. I'm quite sure there are significant amount of people playing on PC or console but spend via mobile for convenience/benefits. So, can't judge players size from spending alone.

I think Mihoyo is still in the midst of getting the co-op system right.
- Fischl's Unreconciled Stars co-op was too easy to even consider co-op.
- Dragonspine co-op difficulty was raised significantly. But it is crap cause match making begins after the battle starts. Ruined my team combo & no time for pre-battle discussion. I was praised to heaven cause I guided people how to co-op with friends only laugh.gif
- Lost Riches co-op is down right bugged lol. Definitely warrants apologems. But I'm surprised that I don't see much whining about it online.

Overall, can see the devs is trying hard to encourage people to co-op for clearing certain content. I won't be surprise if the next event requires us to form a team before starting the challenge/event. There's a lot of trial & error going on. With all the data gathered from the past events, hopefully they'll get their acts together & introduce a better co-op mechanics.
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Co-op sucks cause there's no MMR, so you get matched with any single tom dick, harry & jane. Not to mention there's many languages also. That makes communication with certain people difficult. PC players chat a bit more, while mobile players hardly reply cause it's troublesome to type a lot of while playing.

IMO, the game is meant to co-op with like minded people. I play with people I know only, and it's so much better that way. Even when we screwed up, we just laugh it off only. Just get into Discord & scream at your teammates while playing laugh.gif
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QUOTE(drloveplenty @ Jan 16 2021, 01:13 PM)
i don't think can coop 😢
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Can co-op, i did it & gotten 3k score.
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 16 2021, 05:02 PM)
Good to know.. Add add each other lar don't shy tongue.gif
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My high score now is 3015 only. Not gonna attempt further already haha.
But this event is great, can adjust the difficulty to your liking & can co-op to attempt the challenge. So it caters to everyone from newbies to experienced players.

You can look for my UID few pages back or let me know if you still need co-op help. I don't think there's any issues with UIDs cause there's load of people posting their UIDs in Discord every minute seeking for co-op help.
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post Jan 17 2021, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(Zen Qiu Gaming @ Jan 16 2021, 11:18 PM)
Finally beat the crap out of him for 4275 laugh.gif

damn cube tilted me with several close kill last min wipe


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Your Keqing artifacts sub-stats damn broken lo sweat.gif
Getting crit rate itself is a struggle already, you can even get close to 1:3 ratio.

QUOTE(derthvadar @ Jan 17 2021, 01:09 AM)
Help me with the event

I main Razor

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What's your World Level & who else are your main characters?
Razor main but sees Electro Boss & insta give up laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Zen Qiu Gaming @ Jan 17 2021, 01:44 AM)
if you farm noblesse as much as i did, sooner or later you'd roll such subs too  laugh.gif my last count was almost 100pc each of 5* noblesse and bloodstained. i still havent roll a single energy recharge noblesse sands rclxub.gif
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Coincidentally I just got this 10 minutes ago, fresh from the oven. Wanna trade? sweat.gif

Inb4 all bonuses goes to the flat ATK bangwall.gif

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post Jan 17 2021, 02:05 AM

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QUOTE(zilch28 @ Jan 17 2021, 01:59 AM)
Phew finally max it with ningguang's help. She's so OP hahaha
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Ok, time for me to pull my Ningguang out of retirement.
Who you team up with Ningguang? What's your artifact sets?

I'm currently thinking of Barbara supporting Ningguang & Xingqiu supporting my DPS Fischl.
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QUOTE(Zen Qiu Gaming @ Jan 17 2021, 02:05 AM)
thats a really nice sub roll drool.gif 4 sub vanilla with crit dmg too
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Good for DPS Mona? They game is really trolling me with my Lvl 3 Mona. I have above average artifacts for Mona. But just scared when I actually level up those artifacts, all the crappy sub stats got boosted instead. Who else benefits from Energy Recharge?

QUOTE(zilch28 @ Jan 17 2021, 02:08 AM)
I was using it with diluc, xiangling, and bennette. Frankly they are mostly there to buff and break crystals only

My ning runs on glad + noblesse set. Around 1.7k atk, 75% crit, 120+% crit dmg
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That's practically a solo Ningguang lol. Not even Geo Resonance, only Pyro Resonance. With that high crit rate, must be using Solar Pearl? Your crit damage is fantastic too. Nearly doubled.
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post Jan 17 2021, 03:33 AM

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QUOTE(Zen Qiu Gaming @ Jan 17 2021, 03:02 AM)
off the top of my head, i would maybe use that for zhongli, venti or bennett if my total stats severely lack ER, tbf even if it doesnt roll into dps subs, its still a very nice support piece.
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I heard Venti is a walking battery laugh.gif
Battery needs more battery juice?

Zhongli yes, very agreeable. Heard Albedo also has the same crap energy regen mechanism like Zhongli too. Bennett wise, yea to a certain degree for more comfortable Q spams.

Looks like this game havent been kind to give me the flexibility to play however I want. It's been more like I have to play with what's given to me sweat.gif

Gonna farm a bit more & then decide what to build with the resources given to me by Lord RNGesus.
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QUOTE(Zen Qiu Gaming @ Jan 17 2021, 03:47 AM)
with warbow yeah he can easily hit 200+ ER, but if i were to switch out my lvl80 warbow for something else, id be losing 50% ER, so its more of an option for me to play around with overall stats to min max, in general its pretty easy to hit 200 ER for Venti and Bennett with the f2p weapons, they have ascension boost for ER too.

My sweet spot for Venti is 200 ER so i can rotate back after a full burst with it ready, tried below 200 and it didnt quite work out for me.

Dw too much bout it tho, in due time, youre sorta bound to roll the things u need with the pity system, as for stats, once youve farmed enough, its mostly bout mix and match with what you got, i play by using whatever RNGesus gives too  laugh.gif

but i personally think in general, its pretty worth farming Noblesse and bloodstained as they tend to be more flexible to use compared to other domains.
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There's no pity for artifacts cry.gif
But I totally agree on Noblesse being one of the most highly used one. So no harm in continuously farming it. Plus, I'm also in the midst of making a DPS Fischl to go with my Qingqiu. So both artifacts from Clear Pool is gooding for me.

QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Jan 17 2021, 09:46 AM)
fuh, this will be epic for mona.
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Yea I have a Mona, tragically only lvl 3 at the moment. Paranoid that only the flat ATK gets boosted when I level up that artifact.

QUOTE(zilch28 @ Jan 17 2021, 10:30 AM)
Yea solar pearl and a 4* crit rate helm. Didnt really change it yet since AR40+ since the substats kinda good hahaha.

I did try with zhongli for geo resonance, but it didn't really work out since he's wasting too much time for casting. I swapped him for XL instead to break crystals faster
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Kkk, I'll get a Solar Pearl too. Been too long I'm sitting on my Prototype Malice sweat.gif
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post Jan 17 2021, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(zilch28 @ Jan 17 2021, 03:20 PM)
For dps ning, both craftables are not that good. If you have widsith or eye of perception that is also a fantastic choice. Having both widsith and solar pearl they are actually quite evenly matched in terms of average output, but I use solar pearl more simply because its just more consistent.

I have not tried eye of perception myself but the calculations said that eye of perception would be the biggest dps when you have more opponents. Can check more of it out at the ningguang mains reddit.
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Yea Eye of Perception is good for clearing waves of mobs thank to its chain lightning. But damage wise, Solar Pearl should be better on single/few targets with her E & Q. I'm still weighing between Eye of Perception or Solar Pearl.
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Just wanna double check. For elemental related monsters e.g. the Regisvine bosses, Abyss Mages, Whooper Flowers, Fatui Skirmishers. We can't apply elemental status on them if the element we're applying is the same as their inherent element?

For instance a Cryo Abyss Mage can't be cryo-ed for my Bennett to Vaporize? I noticed the Cryo Abyss Mage still takes cryo damage but probably heavily reduced since it's their inherent element.

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