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post Jan 5 2021, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(Zen Qiu Gaming @ Jan 4 2021, 10:33 PM)
Finally finished my physical DPS set, not the best stats but whatever, just waiting for the last prototype spear to drop from weekly for my R5 pike lol! no luck on prototypes this week as usual sad.gif


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I'm 50% past AR50 already, so far I've gotten only 1 or 2 prototype only. How on earth you farmed 4 prototype claymore?
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post Jan 5 2021, 03:41 AM

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QUOTE(laobeh @ Jan 5 2021, 01:57 AM)
Now that you're W7 give it another month and you will most lightly get a lot as well.

For me pre-45 there's only 1 prototype that drops from the weekly bosses. Then at AR45 around total of 2-3 prototypes drops. Right now at AR 53 I'm swimming with 14 prototypes.

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Naise, so the key is WR7 laugh.gif
I was just reading about people complaining that the Dev gave us new weapon recipes but forgot to provide the materials to craft em.

What about 5* from bosses? Is WR7 more generous with 5* Gladiator & Wanderer's sets?
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post Jan 5 2021, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(Zen Qiu Gaming @ Jan 5 2021, 09:59 AM)
id say its still pretty rng even after ar50, i know a friend that has 5 claymore & polearm on his alt which is at 45, but his main on 50 not as much, my acc aside from polearm as well the rest doesnt really drop, infact i havent been getting any prototypes since my last drop on 45  hmm.gif
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Oh well, time to worship it lol.
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post Jan 5 2021, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(skincladalien @ Jan 5 2021, 03:24 PM)
gotten very salty after getting my 3rd mona from standard banner.

quitting game >.<

wont be this salt even if it had given me a rubbish 5* weapon...
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But Mona is the only 5* that can do 1m+ burst damage laugh.gif
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post Jan 5 2021, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(skincladalien @ Jan 5 2021, 03:38 PM)
no need c2 for her to burst... the pool got so many 5* why keep giving me the same one  shakehead.gif

and also i only bought welkin moon so 70 pulls need about a month to reach...basically like 2 months wasted.
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Time to pray to RNGesus.

One more Mona & it'll unlock her C3 for godly burst.
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post Jan 6 2021, 02:45 AM

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QUOTE(Blinklime @ Jan 6 2021, 01:29 AM)
how did u guys feel about albedo questline? for me abit boring. especially ending.

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at least sword is decent on adverture boi
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Yea the storyline is so boring, no suspense/spoiler also & left with a easily forgettable cliffhanger. They could have design Act 5 with more plot twist but from Act 1 to 4, it's been a very boring journey/plot that I'm just spamming space bar all the way only. At least Fischl event story was much better, although no conclusion with the Fatui as well. I actually thought that the meteorite could be something that spawned out of Fischl's imagination. Plus it keeps you wanting to know about what happened in the past.

On another note, the event was great (no resins needed, free weapon, new weapons) except that the Cryo Regisvine co-op mechanism is absolutely crap. I only wanna co-op with my friends, not random strangers that tend to ruin my team & game. Plus, match making should happen before the countdown begin to allow strangers plan the team & strategy. Once ready only start the battle.

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post Jan 6 2021, 03:22 AM

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QUOTE(Blinklime @ Jan 6 2021, 03:14 AM)
i hear ya, coop first match always nightmare, spawn in mid aoe cold snap phase, dead. Soloing was actually faster for me.
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Yea, YouTubers were clearing that Cryo Regisvine within 20 seconds solo mega_shok.gif
But I've managed to find a workaround if wanna co-op with just friends. After the friend(s) joined, press F2 & quickly cancel match making.

That's how I helped my friends clear that boss 15 times. Might wanna take note of this trick in case February event will have similar co-op crap again. Heard it was the same during Fischl event, but that was so easy so no one need to co-op.
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post Jan 6 2021, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Jan 6 2021, 01:43 PM)
My Amber c4. laugh.gif puke.gif bangwall.gif

Her elemental burst is actually good, just her doll is really retarded. dry.gif
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Her elemental burst deals is good to proc Vaporize. But too bad its duration is only 2 seconds. But since its CD is only 12 seconds & cost a mere 40 energy, she's a good candidate for 4 Noblesse Obliged buff.

Her doll works like Mona's E no? Taunts enemies towards it & then explode upon taking certain amount of damage.
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post Jan 6 2021, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Jan 6 2021, 02:06 PM)
Ya it works like mona's E but the AoE is really laughable. Only mobs who stand really next to it will get caught in explosion. sweat.gif

If Im not mistaken you need to manually detonate it for bigger radius.
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Laughable AoE as in the taunting AoE or the explosion damage AoE? If it's damage, to be fair la....Mona's E damage is pretty crap too lol. Even thought it has DoT. It's purely just to draw aggro. I really like the concept of taunt, wished there'll be more characters with such capability in the future. But definitely need to improve the taunt radius la.

Seems like Mona's taunt only works for 5 seconds while Amber's taunt works as long as the bunny isn't detonated.

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QUOTE(Zen Qiu Gaming @ Jan 6 2021, 03:15 PM)
personally prefer ambers bunny over mona's E, feels alot more reliable

with ganyu coming out, mona's E might be useful for freeze comps, double cryo with ganyu, mona and sucrose sounds like fun laugh.gif
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I personally felt hard to appreciate Cryo resonance sweat.gif
It's just increasing crit rate with a condition. If only it doesn't have a condition like Pyro resonance, it'll be slightly better. Then to reduce our team's crit rate & increase crit damage stats after taking Cryo resonance into consideration, it's a whole lot of RNG artifact farming again.

The only fun I can see from that is Sucrose pull mobs together for Mona to taunt. Then Ganyu AoE freeze everything with her 2nd charged shot. Unless you're planning to park a Bunny Terrorist next to those frozen mobs. Do they still have Cryo status after breaking themselves free from frozen state?
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QUOTE(Zen Qiu Gaming @ Jan 6 2021, 04:04 PM)
for that line up youre not taking in 2nd cryo for just the resonance, ive always tell others, think of resonance/food & potion buff as a bonus, never as a core in team building laugh.gif

im more in line towards placing kaeya as 2nd cryo mainly for recharging cryo energy and maintaining cryo proc via E and Q, kaeya is just too good in both aspects as a support for ganyu

Sucrose is a great support if youre running off bennett, 4 pc vv and dragon tales plus her mobbing skills is great if youre trying to one wave with ganyu burst.

you'd only need a single set of the 4 pc cryo set on ganyu for this to work or even 2 pc.

for 4 pc to work, well, you need to maintain targets in frozen status as long as you can while dealing regular or cryo dmg, theres where mona & kaeya comes in, you cant have any other reactions or itll break frozen status and remove cryo status. So no geo or claymore either to avoid shatter.
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Pyro resonance is really core in team building for me lol. Mainly thanks to my Bennett, I'd just include a random Pyro character just for the sake of activating the Pyro resonance laugh.gif

I'm still quite a simple straight forward person when it comes to elemental reactions - I can't micromanage multiple swaps between 3-4 characters. I prefer a 2 pax combo team (1 DPS & 1 Support) since I do play co-op a lot. Your theoretical combo is Ganyu 2nd charge shot, into Sucrose's 4 VV with Thrilling Tales, into Bennet's 4 Noblesse Q, and finally into Ganyu's vaporized burst?

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post Jan 6 2021, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(Zen Qiu Gaming @ Jan 6 2021, 04:41 PM)
i mean its unavoidable to go pyro comp if youre aiming for high dps thats for sure laugh.gif

tbf some of us are already running pyro comps on several teams, sometimes a little change in comps for fun does bring freshness into what youre playing with daily, or sometimes you dont have a choice due to limited unit pools.

but yeah co-op is a different story, less management.

the full comp is just kaeya, ganyu, mona, sucrose. its a perma freeze comp

i might change it if we manage get to test the final product, so its basically all theoretical for now

ganyu cryo taunt, mona wet taunt/Q into frozen status, sucrose E/Q vv debuff mob, switch into dragon tales buff ganyu, ganyu Q burst charge2 shot spam, rinse repeat.

her cryo aoe cost like 60 energy with 20s cd, so kaeya is really just a battery or back up cryo to make sure targets are frozen, mona is a very reliable hydro taunt too.

if in practice you dont need kaeya, hes pretty much replaceable, cuz ganyu's taunt generates energy too, just not sure how reliable it is.

sounds like a pain eh?  laugh.gif
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Your theorycrafted comp sure sounds workable & fun for perma freeze, since Ganyu can consistently apply Cryo status while Mona applies Hydro status. But damage wise, I think it could be quite lacking even with 4 VV & Thrilling Tales. Both VV & Thrilling Tales buff lasts for 10 seconds, while Ganyu's Q randomly rain ice shards for 15 seconds. So not sure how many times a monster can get nuked by a shard during the 1st 10 seconds. Based on her showcase video, the shards AoE is kinda small. So might only get hit the same monster once or twice during the whole 15 seconds sweat.gif

So probably just a Mona & Ganyu tag team should be good for perma freeze fun. More simple & manageable. Then toss in Diluc or his brother to vaporize those ice cubes for burst damage haha.

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QUOTE(Zen Qiu Gaming @ Jan 6 2021, 05:24 PM)
most of her main dps comes from the 2nd charged shots anyways, you're right bout the aoe shards tho, not just that, the dmg modifier per shard is horrible too.

on the fence bout her, not too keen on her kit, waiting for xiao or hutao more.

if im going diluc, im most probably not gonna bother with those elaborate setups anymore  laugh.gif
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I'm having the expectation that her 2nd charge shot leans more towards Crowd Control instead of DPS. The devs seems to be introducing crowd control mechanics (like what they justified for Zhongli's Q) but no idea what is there to control when there's only 2-3 monsters to tackle lol. Crowd control is definitely fun to use la, but probably no clickbait titles for content creators laugh.gif
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post Jan 7 2021, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(Zen Qiu Gaming @ Jan 6 2021, 11:51 PM)
its still a niche comp if you ask me, definitely a fun factor build. if you bring boss and elites into equation, cc doesnt work on any of em, so no matter how well endowed the dps is, not everyone will enjoy playing charged shots.

at the end of the day it comes down to what players feel good on their hands to enjoy their gameplay long term, i have another acc with klee & diluc but i just couldnt find a reason to spend time playing it either, cuz it got pretty stale for me. still prefer keqing's sword & polearms. my first impression of zhongli and reason to pull has nothing to do with his kit either, he was a husbando tier pull laugh.gif

i pretty much skipped klee & childe just to make sure i get him on main acc even though it was a pretty tempting set for both banners.

As for content creators, its their job, some of them have their own fanbase that would eat everything that they say no matter what, so take their contents with a pinch of salt, best way is to calculate/test stuff ourselves, consider them as reference. But i personally dont like how all those clickbaits are rampant either, especially a 30+ mins video with 0 timestamps...and 5mins of actual data sweat.gif
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Yea, Genshin is the kinda game that works with various ways. So much flexibility & quite versatile.

Having no time stamps on videos above 10 minutes is my biggest pet peeves now laugh.gif

QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 7 2021, 12:06 PM)
Hi guys, I am level 70 AR45 in Genshin Impact.
Didn't know there's a thread here at LYN with sooo many replies!

Nice to meet you all! biggrin.gif
Btw how to add each other ya? Need search by UID only can?

My current team, in process of levelling all up to level80:
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What's your Childe build like? You don't really need to bring all 4 to lvl 80 & beyond. Normally you can leave supporters at level 60 after you've unlocked their last passive talent.
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post Jan 7 2021, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 7 2021, 02:12 PM)
err.. I prefer levelling all up equally as they have better survivability when joining multiplayer games/domains etc.

For Childe I'm using level 70 Skyward Harp 5*, 2x Berserker, and 2x Gladiator Finale. He's my main carry. Skyward Harp was lucky recently to get from normal banner after saving up x10.
Hope to one day get Diluc so can combo with him for DPS.

Jean is my healer with Festering Desire maxed refined.
Albedo just for support damage with Harbinger of Dawn.
Fishcl using Stringless bow focusing on elemental mastery build. Planning to replace her with a better support/DPS some day. Hoping to get a good 5* .

I not a whale just get gem sub every month..  biggrin.gif  rely on pity rolls a lot to get my 5*s
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That's one broken bow on Childe drool.gif
Stringless also is amazing for Burst Childe
Bennett, Barbara & Xingqiu are the better supports for Childe. Fischl could help support as well, but not with Stringless cause if you're just gonna immediate swap her out, the EM stat is quite wasted on her.

I'm using support Xiangling with my Childe laugh.gif
I have Bennett too but he's DPS. I might wanna try 4 Noblesse set with Thrilling Tales on Barbara with Childe & see how that combo fares.

QUOTE(danger46 @ Jan 7 2021, 03:23 PM)
I only have one lv90 which is Ningguang  cry.gif
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post Jan 7 2021, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 7 2021, 05:04 PM)

Checked already, stringless works ok on Fishcl support. Her bird will still utilize the EM rating of your character when shoot the lightning: https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/com...bow_for_fischl/
https://www.hoyolab.com/genshin/article/75485

I won't use her as DPS as my Childe will overperform her by a lot in terms of damage. He is also a bow user so can change when need to aim via range.

EM - elemental mastery is the damage done when an element combines with another element, such as fire+lightning, water+lightning etc that deals damage. That is why Stringless will work on Fischl. But yes crit will give more damage: https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/com...ery_on_support/

problem is need to find those crit artifacts..  dry.gif
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Ok, time for me to experiment & check the numbers again. I've tried once, going full elemental mastery including using Wanderer's Troupe set, really sad damage.

Now my Oz is doing like 2k crit damage per spit. Will switch to EM build & compare the damage.

Need to update myself. My last understanding on Fischl's EM is that she needs to be the active character on the field. Then only Oz's Electro Charge will benefit from Fischl's EM bonuses. The way I play her = swap her in > summon Oz > swap her out immediately, so she doesn't stay on the field.
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jan 7 2021, 08:14 PM)
EM can trigger via skills. But for Geo hero, EM is useless as it doesn’t deal damage with other elements, just drop shield crystals to pickup.

Also if you use EM build but team don’t have sufficient elemental combinations then not so good also.

Best for EM build is in a team that has fire, water, electric, or ice. The more the better.
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Yea, I'm quite aware of that. I probably will make a Vaporize Burst Childe since I kinda have the artifacts for that. My current DPS Bennett has quite fair bit of EM too, hence his Melt hurts quite a lot.

ChongYun supports main DPS Bennett, XiangLing supports Burst Childe:
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post Jan 8 2021, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(dennis008 @ Jan 8 2021, 11:56 AM)
my main rooster

razor
bennett
xiangling/sucrose
mona

those shield really annoying with time limit
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Woah, hang in there buddy. That's a dream team you got there. They're gonna be broken once they hit level 60 & you ascend them, even with average weapons/artifacts. You're still at AR35+, you can begin soft farming for artifacts at AR40 (World Level 5) & then go hardcore at AR45 (World Level 6).

Mona, Bennett & Razor are great DPS. Who you're planning to have as the main DPS front lining all the time? Or are you the type that likes to do elaborated setup for your DPS burst?

Based on your current rooster, you'll struggle to break the Electro & Water Shield. Every team has its weakness, so don't fret too much over it. Eventually you'll have a dedicated team for certain domain that your main team can't tackle efficiently.

A temporary solution for you now is to get help via co-op. Just list down the domains that you're struggling & see if anyone has the characters to tackle those domains with you.
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QUOTE(dennis008 @ Jan 8 2021, 01:33 PM)
yess electric and hydro shield is very annoying...
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I have a support ChongYun if you want me to co-op with you. But normally I'll just use my Ningguang & bulldoze through every single shields out there laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Theoutspokenguy @ Jan 8 2021, 04:49 PM)
my advice is try to party and focus on your main dps prefer 5*
If you up all the 4* material cost you a bomb.
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Not all 5* are great DPS. Some 4* can out-DPS a 5*

QUOTE(danger46 @ Jan 8 2021, 04:59 PM)
if only we can return and de-level character  cry.gif I regret to up my Fischl till Lv 70  doh.gif
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At least yours is Fischl, still salvageable. With the right gears, she can normal attack 2k-5k per arrow.

I regretted leveling up my Lisa. I really wanted her to be playable cause she looks amazing + Rie Tanaka voice, but her kit just doesn't suit me bangwall.gif

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