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TStyer P
post Sep 30 2020, 03:23 PM, updated 6y ago

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I can buy Michelin Primacy 4 and Michelin XM2+ for a similar price. The Primacy 4 provides better grip than the XM2+ but my number one concern is low noise. I understand both of these tyres use the same rubber compound, but the different tread patterns may result in different noise levels. Does anyone know if there's much difference in the noise level between these two tyres?
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post Sep 30 2020, 03:42 PM

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wow primacy 4 same price as xm2? what size, spec and price bro?

i believe p4 is 1 level higher than xm2 and should be quieter
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post Sep 30 2020, 03:44 PM

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Overall Michelin Primacy 4 better than XM2+, XM2+ may be long lasting compare with Michelin Primacy 4. Primacy 4 the most comfort & low noise in Michelin tyre model, compete with Bridgestone Turanza.
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post Oct 1 2020, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(jemmi @ Sep 30 2020, 08:44 PM)
Overall Michelin Primacy 4 better than XM2+, XM2+ may be long lasting compare with Michelin Primacy 4. Primacy 4 the most comfort & low noise in Michelin tyre model, compete with Bridgestone Turanza.
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Thanks, I'll go with the Primacy 4.

I actually live in New Zealand, but we don't have any good forums to discuss tyres. My tyre size is 205/55R16, fitted to a 2014 Hyundai i30 hatchback. The price I'll pay is $203.10 per tyre for the Primacy 4 or $191.20 for the XM2+ (including fitting, balancing and old tyre disposal).

Most roads in New Zealand are constructed from coarse chip bitumen, which creates a lot of tyre noise. This is why I want the quietest tyre.
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post Oct 1 2020, 03:56 PM

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XM2+ aren't really cheap (not if you consider it being the entry level of the brand) but it is being marketed as eco, high mileage tyre.
The outright purchase price is not much lower than the next tyre in the company's range
Only when you derive the cost per km/miles, then only it is considered cheap.
If you are not a high miler, the value of the XM2+ becomes even lesser
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post Oct 1 2020, 08:30 PM

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In Malaysia price, Primacy4 nearly double price compare with XM.
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post Oct 2 2020, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(jemmi @ Oct 1 2020, 08:30 PM)
In Malaysia price, Primacy4 nearly double price compare with XM.
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I beg to differ, the pricing is not double. For the same size, it’s less than 100 ringgit difference in Malaysia, even primacy vs pilot sport is within similar price gap. The XM2+ certainly can achieve 100k mileage while primacy 4 only can do around ~60k but with better grip and comfort. For outright grip definitely go for Pilot Sport 4 while sacrificing comfort and mileage(~40k).

This is based on my own experience using all the Michelin models mentioned albeit xm2 & xm2+ was on a lighter car. Prior experience with the XM2 and I can say the new XM2+ which adopt more advance silica from primacy did narrowed the previous large gap between Michenlin entry series vs Primacy.
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post Oct 2 2020, 02:20 PM

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the Primacy range is positioned for luxury and comfort. with 4 you get the latest /best.
https://www.michelin.com.my/auto/browse-tyr...fort-and-luxury

XM+ envronmental friendly etc basically means cheapest , best value and... for taxi use smile.gif
https://www.michelin.com.my/auto/browse-tyr...ntally-friendly

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post Oct 2 2020, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(boysrule @ Oct 2 2020, 02:08 PM)
I beg to differ, the pricing is not double. For the same size, it’s less than 100 ringgit difference in Malaysia, even primacy vs pilot sport is within similar price gap. The XM2+ certainly can achieve 100k mileage while primacy 4 only can do around ~60k but with better grip and comfort. For outright grip definitely go for Pilot Sport 4 while sacrificing comfort and mileage(~40k).

This is based on my own experience using all the Michelin models mentioned albeit xm2 & xm2+ was on a lighter car. Prior experience with the XM2 and I can say the new XM2+ which adopt more advance silica from primacy did narrowed the previous large gap between Michenlin entry series vs Primacy.
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Yes the price not double, I mentioned nearly. I'm using PS4( Tufbo car) & Turanza for MPV. In my area Ipoh & Batu Gajah Primacy4 price nearly like PS4, for example before PKP 225/50/17 PS4 RM495, Primacy4 RM455. Don't know latest price. My friend changed XM2 55/R16 for RM225, I'm not really follow XM price & size. May be different location different size coz my friend said Rawang had cheaper price.
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post Oct 2 2020, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(dudester @ Oct 2 2020, 02:20 PM)
the Primacy range is positioned for luxury and comfort. with 4 you get the latest /best.
https://www.michelin.com.my/auto/browse-tyr...fort-and-luxury

XM+ envronmental friendly etc basically means cheapest , best value and...  for taxi use smile.gif
https://www.michelin.com.my/auto/browse-tyr...ntally-friendly
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Agree! But taxi driver here prefer other cheaper tyre like made in China or Indon tyre.

This post has been edited by jemmi: Oct 2 2020, 06:58 PM
boysrule
post Oct 2 2020, 10:26 PM

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For 13 & 14” tyre XM2+ is a good choice. Not much acceptable ‘in the wet condition’ tyre to choose from anyway... 15” and above plenty of choice yo
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post Oct 2 2020, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(tyer @ Oct 1 2020, 03:46 PM)
Thanks, I'll go with the Primacy 4.

I actually live in New Zealand, but we don't have any good forums to discuss tyres. My tyre size is 205/55R16, fitted to a 2014 Hyundai i30 hatchback. The price I'll pay is $203.10 per tyre for the Primacy 4 or $191.20 for the XM2+ (including fitting, balancing and old tyre disposal).

Most roads in New Zealand are constructed from coarse chip bitumen, which creates a lot of tyre noise. This is why I want the quietest tyre.
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Primacy 4 will fare better than XM2+ in terms of overall comfort & road noise.

However like others have mentioned, it wears faster than XM2+.


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post Oct 3 2020, 07:12 AM

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primacy 4 no doubt..
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post Oct 26 2020, 10:32 AM

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Well, I got the Primacy 4 tyres fitted and have travelled 600km on them. I've very disappointed with the noise level, as there's hardly any improvement over the Goodyear Optilife tyres that were fitted to my car previously. Of course, the Primacy 4 provides much better grip than the Goodyear Optilife, but most of my driving is confined to the city, so performance isn't my main priority.

I've since found some more reviews that say the Primacy 4 isn't as quiet as the Primacy 3 ST. Some say that Michelin's primary goal was to improve wet traction and it's not as quiet as the previous generation.

In my experience, the Yokohama ES32 is quieter than the Primacy 4.

I was also shocked to find the Primacy 4 only has 6mm of tread when brand new!
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post Oct 28 2020, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(tyer @ Oct 26 2020, 10:32 AM)
Well, I got the Primacy 4 tyres fitted and have travelled 600km on them. I've very disappointed with the noise level, as there's hardly any improvement over the Goodyear Optilife tyres that were fitted to my car previously. Of course, the Primacy 4 provides much better grip than the Goodyear Optilife, but most of my driving is confined to the city, so performance isn't my main priority.

I've since found some more reviews that say the Primacy 4 isn't as quiet as the Primacy 3 ST. Some say that Michelin's primary goal was to improve wet traction and it's not as quiet as the previous generation.

In my experience, the Yokohama ES32 is quieter than the Primacy 4.

I was also shocked to find the Primacy 4 only has 6mm of tread when brand new!
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I’m shocked to hear that the primacy 4 is noisy. My experience from PS3 to primacy 3 ST is amazingly muted and of course grip is sacrificed. Then there’s xm2 to xm2+ also well muted and better grip both dry and wet. Do share with us an update after 1000km with your primacy 4 experience, perhaps need some run in.
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post Nov 7 2020, 10:07 AM

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I supposed it could be there is a different between primacy and primacy ST. My previous car using primacy 4 ST (made in Thailand) and is very quiet. Recently got a 2019 car (with 3k mileage only)using primacy 3 (made in Germany) and is no where near as quiet as primacy 4ST
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post Dec 4 2020, 11:19 AM

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As far i as tried , Primacy 4 less noise than XM2+.

 

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