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cyhborg
post Sep 22 2020, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(mac60931 @ Sep 22 2020, 11:52 AM)
Huh you drunk? Do you even read what you post? Why you quote the nature and duration of copyright section? What that got to do with ts artwork being used in other people MONETIZE youtube video??  doh.gif
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the part i quoted is "Nature of copyright in literary, musical or artistic works,
films and sound recordings."

that means i'm talking about the definition and the exceptions

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post Sep 22 2020, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(cyhborg @ Sep 22 2020, 11:57 AM)
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the part i quoted is "Nature of copyright in literary, musical or artistic works,
films and sound recordings."

that means the definition, belum talk about duration
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penyiaran karya yang dimuatkan dalam filem

16. (1) Jika pemunya hak cipta mana-mana karya sastera, muzik atau seni membenarkan seseorang untuk memuatkan karya itu dalam sesuatu filem dan sesuatu perkhidmatan penyiaran menyiarkan filem itu, kiranya tidak ada apa-apa persetujuan sebaliknya yang nyata di antara pemunya hak cipta dan orang itu, maka hendaklah disifatkan bahawa pemunya hak cipta itu telah membenarkan siaran itu.

(2) Walau apa pun subseksyen (1), jika sesuatu perkhidmatan penyiaran menyiarkan sesuatu filem dalam mana suatu karya sastera, muzik atau seni telah dimuatkan, pemunya hak untuk menyiarkan karya sastera, muzik atau seni itu adalah berhak untuk menerima pampasan yang patut daripada perkhidmatan penyiaran itu.
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post Sep 22 2020, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(mac60931 @ Sep 22 2020, 12:03 PM)
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penyiaran  karya  yang  dimuatkan  dalam  filem

16.  (1)  Jika  pemunya  hak  cipta  mana-mana  karya  sastera,  muzik atau seni membenarkan seseorang untuk memuatkan karya itu dalam sesuatu filem dan sesuatu perkhidmatan penyiaran menyiarkan filem itu, kiranya tidak ada apa-apa persetujuan sebaliknya yang nyata di antara pemunya hak cipta dan orang itu, maka hendaklah disifatkan bahawa  pemunya  hak  cipta  itu  telah  membenarkan  siaran  itu.   

(2)  Walau  apa  pun  subseksyen  (1),  jika  sesuatu  perkhidmatan penyiaran menyiarkan sesuatu filem dalam mana suatu karya sastera, muzik  atau  seni  telah  dimuatkan,  pemunya  hak  untuk  menyiarkan karya  sastera,  muzik  atau  seni  itu  adalah  berhak  untuk  menerima pampasan  yang  patut  daripada  perkhidmatan  penyiaran  itu.
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already mention already just in english. the BM version

"(2) Walau apa pun subseksyen (1), hak mengawal di bawah
subseksyen itu tidak termasuk hak untuk mengawal
(a) perlakuan mana-mana perbuatan yang tersebut dalam
subseksyen (1) secara urusan yang wajar termasuk bagi
maksud penyelidikan, pengajian persendirian, kritikan,
ulasan atau pelaporan berita atau peristiwa semasa
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post Sep 22 2020, 12:08 PM

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“filem” ertinya apa-apa penetapan suatu siri gambaran pandangan pada  bahan  daripada  apa-apa  perihalan,  sama  ada  lut  cahaya  atau tidak,  supaya  boleh  dengan  menggunakan  bahan  itu  dengan  atau tanpa  apa-apa  bantuan  sesuatu  perekaan—(a)  ditunjukkan  sebagai  gambar  bergerak;  atau(b)  dirakamkan pada bahan-bahan lain, sama ada lut cahaya atau  tidak  supaya  dengan  menggunakan  bahan  itu  ia boleh  ditunjukkan  sedemikian,dan termasuklah bunyi yang terkandung dalam sesuatu runut bunyi yang  berkaitan  dengan  suatu  filem;    “fotograf” ertinya suatu perekodan cahaya atau sinaran lain pada apa-apa  bahantara  yang  padanya  suatu  imej  dihasilkan  atau  yang daripadanya suatu imej boleh dengan apa-apa cara dihasilkan, dan yang  bukan  sebahagian  filem;    “hak  cipta”  ertinya  hak  cipta  di  bawah Akta  ini;    “hak cipta masa depan” ertinya hak cipta yang akan atau mungkin wujud berkenaan dengan apa-apa karya atau kelas karya atau hal perkara  lain  masa  depan,  atau  apabila  mana-mana  peruntukan Akta  ini  mula  berkuat  kuasa,  atau  dalam  sesuatu  peristiwa di  masa  depan;    “hak  pelaku”  ertinya  hak  pelaku  di  bawah Akta  ini;    “hari berkaitan” ertinya Hari Merdeka berkenaan dengan Malaysia Barat  dan  Hari  Malaysia  berkenaan  dengan  Sabah,  Sarawak  dan Wilayah  Persekutuan  Labuan;    “institusi pelajaran” hendaklah mempunyai erti yang sama seperti yang  diberikan  kepadanya  di  bawah Akta  Pelajaran  1961;    “karya  muzik”  ertinya  apa-apa  karya  muzik,  dan  termasuklah karya  yang  digubah  untuk  iringan  muzik;    “karya ciptaan bersama” ertinya karya yang dikeluarkan dengan kerjasama  dua  orang  pencipta  atau  lebih  dalam  mana  sumbangan tiap-tiap  seorang  pencipta  itu  tidak  boleh  terpisah  daripada sumbangan  pencipta  atau  pencipta-pencipta  lain  itu;
12Undang-Undang  MalaysiaAk tA  332    “karya  grafik”  termasuklah—(a)  apa-apa lukisan cat, lukisan, rajah, peta, carta atau pelan; dan(b)  apa-apa  ukir  pahat,  ecing,  litograf,  ukir  kayu  atau  karya seumpamanya;

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QUOTE(weiloon888 @ Sep 22 2020, 11:47 AM)
TS may have done nothing wrong in the eyes of the law(? I'm no lawyer), but he basically nailed his own coffin with this. If he thinks anyone's gonna use his artwork from now on, he's mistaken. Noone's gonna want to risk dealing with someone waiting to copyright strike content creators with every chance he gets, over reasons like "I probably don't like you". There's literally 0 benefits and countless cons for TS with the actions he made, and even more if he still doesn't wake up from his fantasy dream and set things straight.

Also to TS, if you produced a 100% original artwork by yourself, I fully understand your actions. But it's a fan art...uploaded online...on platforms that aim to SHARE your work...for FREE...You only had benefits to gain when he shared your artwork, but now you risk losing everything.
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lose what??

as you say, he uploaded for free. So he already isn't making any income from it.


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post Sep 22 2020, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(cyhborg @ Sep 22 2020, 12:07 PM)
already mention already just in english. the BM version

"(2) Walau apa pun subseksyen (1), hak mengawal di bawah
subseksyen itu tidak termasuk hak untuk mengawal
(a) perlakuan mana-mana perbuatan yang tersebut dalam
subseksyen (1) secara urusan yang wajar termasuk bagi
maksud penyelidikan, pengajian persendirian, kritikan,
ulasan atau pelaporan berita atau peristiwa semasa
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Sah tak baca. We are talking about ts ARTWORK being use in MONETIZE VIDEO. Where got artwork there? doh.gif
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post Sep 22 2020, 12:11 PM

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“karya grafik” termasuklah—(a) apa-apa lukisan cat, lukisan, rajah, peta, carta atau pelan; dan(b) apa-apa ukir pahat, ecing, litograf, ukir kayu atau karya seumpamanya;
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post Sep 22 2020, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(mac60931 @ Sep 22 2020, 11:39 AM)
Well, people suffer for their own action. That's the beauty of it. biggrin.gif icon_idea.gif  tongue.gif

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If you say so, go inform thequatering TS is in Malaysia and the cost of hiring Malaysia lawyer is 1/4 of that in USA, and recommend lawyer contact to the quartering as well. Myr 20k is like 5k usd only, am sure people like thequartering prepared to fork out 10k usd when he decided to approach Mike.

My advice to TS is try salvage the situation however you can and good luck, you will need it.

Blackmail is crime in Malaysia according to the law, and of course, since thequatering is famous youtuber, hope lawyer he hired here don't give any reputation damage idea to his client.
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post Sep 22 2020, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(mac60931 @ Sep 22 2020, 10:11 AM)
MORE DRAMA. Me rikey. biggrin.gif rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif


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Can’t wait for TQ to start a gfm.

TQ fans is going to encourage TQ to sue!
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post Sep 22 2020, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(mac60931 @ Sep 22 2020, 12:10 PM)
Sah tak baca. We are talking about ts ARTWORK being use in MONETIZE VIDEO. Where got artwork there?  doh.gif
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"13. (1) Hak cipta mengenai karya sastera, muzik atau seni,
filem, rakaman bunyi atau karya terbitan adalah hak eksklusif
bagi mengawal dalam Malaysia—
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(2) Walau apa pun subseksyen (1), hak mengawal di bawah
subseksyen itu tidak termasuk hak untuk mengawal
(a) perlakuan mana-mana perbuatan yang tersebut dalam
subseksyen (1) secara urusan yang wajar termasuk bagi
maksud penyelidikan, pengajian persendirian, kritikan,
ulasan atau pelaporan berita atau peristiwa semasa
:
Dengan syarat bahawa ia disertai dengan suatu perakuan
tajuk karya itu dan penciptaannya, kecuali jika karya itu
berkaitan dengan pelaporan berita atau peristiwa semasa
dengan cara suatu rakaman bunyi, filem atau siaran,
maka perakuan tidak diperlukan;



the above memang covers artwork in video

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post Sep 22 2020, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Sep 22 2020, 12:14 PM)
If you say so,  go inform thequatering TS is in Malaysia and the cost of hiring Malaysia lawyer is 1/4 of that in USA,  and recommend lawyer contact to the quartering as well. Myr 20k is like 5k usd only,  am sure people like thequartering prepared to fork out 10k usd when he decided to approach Mike.

My advice to TS is try salvage the situation however you can and good luck, you will need it.

Blackmail is crime in Malaysia according to the law, and of course, since thequatering is famous youtuber, hope lawyer he hired here don't give any reputation damage idea to his client.
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The quartering don’t even need to come out with his own money lol.

Fans started a gfm for his another case where he was assaulted at a con. He won that case and managed to extract a public apology from the sjw that assaulted him.

Good luck TS.
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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Sep 22 2020, 11:37 AM)
It can be someone job not ts, you know how those too free nothing to do bawang just enjoy seeing things burn. I'm just saying, I have no proof and it can be ts as well.

I don't understand the art of entertainment from other suffering.
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what? you don't laugh when people slip on banana peel?
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post Sep 22 2020, 01:11 PM

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48 fucking pages.

Syukur Malaysia famous for wrong reasons again.

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post Sep 22 2020, 01:14 PM

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LoL .. too many \k lawyers jump in already... It's getting TLDR..

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QUOTE(weiloon888 @ Sep 22 2020, 11:47 AM)
TS may have done nothing wrong in the eyes of the law(? I'm no lawyer), but he basically nailed his own coffin with this. If he thinks anyone's gonna use his artwork from now on, he's mistaken. Noone's gonna want to risk dealing with someone waiting to copyright strike content creators with every chance he gets, over reasons like "I probably don't like you". There's literally 0 benefits and countless cons for TS with the actions he made, and even more if he still doesn't wake up from his fantasy dream and set things straight.

Also to TS, if you produced a 100% original artwork by yourself, I fully understand your actions. But it's a fan art...uploaded online...on platforms that aim to SHARE your work...for FREE...You only had benefits to gain when he shared your artwork, but now you risk losing everything.
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Err... That's what you are supposed to do with art you wanna use la. Ask for permission. Tale as old as time.

Just because its uploaded online doesn't mean its free for you to use, especially on an platform with commercial value and income potential macam Youtube.

I've dealt with many brands yang dah kena sebab pakai art without permission. Sebab tu la now banyak brand pakai stock image site.

This post has been edited by emino: Sep 22 2020, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(Selectt @ Sep 22 2020, 11:45 AM)
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lol TS demands apology? maybe i didnt follow but what the youtuber doing isnt all wrong under fair use. This is all matter of courtesy. Courtesy required when you use someone's else artwork; credit them when you do. Lets not go as far as TS to Bandai Gundam because they are likely not give a crap on TS small prawn artist and really transformative artwork doesnt impact original owner of Gundam. Infact, his work helps to keep Gundam alive in internet community. Anyway, these e-idiot in /k just want to act pro claiming this and that when the fact is just simple matter of courtesy. TS may be overracted using copyright strike when youtuber doesnt respond to TS at twitter, youtuber probably think he can get a leeway out of it. My opinion after watching thequartering responded with video and I dont trust the thequartering.

thequartering has been in youtube for super long time, he knows what he needs to do.
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you got understand what TS demand apology in the first place or not??

He isn't demanding apology for using his artwork, he is demanding an apology for the provocative follow up video & harassment by thequartering supporters .. thequartering inadvertently set his support dogs onto TS by uploading that video instead of settling the issue privately first..

You say that thequartering is a long time youtuber and he knows what he is doing.. But no.. his actions clearly show that he doesn't indeed, know what he is doing..

In the first place, why did he use material for his video without first seeking the original artist for permission?? This is a big no no in the media world.. Some of these youtubers need a good lesson.

Has he learnt from this lesson? It seems the answer is a clear no..

Not saying TS is right either, especially in his negotiation style to settle a dispute, but he does have legit claim to copyright issues on his artwork. Fan art or not.. He is the author and owner of the work and has rights to the distribution & usage of it.
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Wow, instead of ending the thing right there you decide to escalate even more.

Good job, hope you like all the heat and attention you are getting.

And good luck as well, you going to need it.

Get a lawyer as well, you going to need it.
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Sep 22 2020, 01:47 PM)
you got understand what TS demand apology in the first place or not??

He isn't demanding apology for using his artwork, he is demanding an apology for the provocative follow up video & harassment by thequartering supporters .. thequartering inadvertently set his support dogs onto TS by uploading that video instead of settling the issue privately first..

You say that thequartering is a long time youtuber and he knows what he is doing.. But no.. his actions clearly show that he doesn't indeed, know what he is doing..

In the first place, why did he use material for his video without first seeking the original artist for permission?? This is a big no no in the media world.. Some of these youtubers need a good lesson.

Has he learnt from this lesson? It seems the answer is a clear no..

Not saying TS is right either, especially in his negotiation style to settle a dispute, but he does have legit claim to copyright issues on his artwork. Fan art or not.. He is the author and owner of the work and has rights to the distribution & usage of it.
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So TS isn't doing the same thing by crying to /k?

Evidence is all there in the first few page of the thread.

What TheQuartering did is covered by fair use and proper credit has been given because the signature on the drawing is still there, never expected that an artist that thrived and make his livelihood depending on fair use actually have no idea how fair use works.

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