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Chat This Famous Youtuber use my art without permission, now his fanbase harassing me

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WhatMan
post Sep 21 2020, 10:52 AM

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What else TS have drawn but the IP not belong to him? Later kena saman by other people for using IP artwork to make profit how?

TS should really be worry.
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post Sep 21 2020, 10:53 AM

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share art sini malas mau tgk video
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post Sep 21 2020, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Omegalul @ Sep 21 2020, 10:44 AM)
A lot of people missing the point here. The crux of the argument isn't that Bandai will not bother to pursue legal action against a nobody.

The main point is that TS made a thread where he made himself out to be some kind of victim / martyr, trying to illicit sympathy from /k

However, upon closer scrutiny - TS has been profiting off somebody else's IP, work, and claiming it as his own. Making him an art thief and intellectual property pirate.

So instead of this cringy "David vs. Goliath" narrative that he is trying to push, this is more like a Petaling Street Bootleg Vendor yelling like a hypocritical moron that another seller down the street is selling the same fake Gucci bag as he is.
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post Sep 21 2020, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 10:28 AM)
Commissioning aspect of it is fine, as long as it for private use and pleasure.

As for using it to advertise your own work, now that is in a gray area. But I think TS will be fine on that aspect.
I haven't seen anybody getting sued or took down their artwork for using it in their comm sheet.


As for me personally, definitely don't use other people IPs to advertise my work, but then again my main gigs is around original design, oc donut steel area and not fan arts in general.
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well, TS will be fine as long as nobody messing with him and be a whistle blower to screw him up.
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post Sep 21 2020, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(knives. @ Sep 21 2020, 01:39 AM)
Come let the /k collective try and fuck this neckbeard loser’s  shit up in retaliation
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you watch the vid la. he din blame ts. he blame youtube system instead
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QUOTE(brkli @ Sep 21 2020, 10:55 AM)
well, TS will be fine as long as nobody messing with him and be a whistle blower to screw him up.
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screw this omputih
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post Sep 21 2020, 10:57 AM

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This is mutually acquired destruction.
Should have contacted him, allow him to use the picture as the guy has good fanbase and indirectly ask him to point them to your site.
win-win
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post Sep 21 2020, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(empyreal @ Sep 21 2020, 10:36 AM)
that doesnt protect ts from any allegation that ts sold the work to that youtuber for his public use.
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It doesn't, just like it doesn't protect ts from drawing the artwork in the first regardless if he being paid to do so.

In this comic/art world we all rely on good wills of these companies.
And these companies in turn were hold favorably as a return. They are, after all, wouldn't want to draw the ire of their core fan base.

As for youtube video, fair rights is also a good will from youtube and the companies involved.
As long as you are not being blatant about it, this fair rights is applicable.

TS is like these IP company, but without good will, whom overzealously protect his IP.
But he is currently at a worse position since he doesn't have the right for this IP in the first place.

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post Sep 21 2020, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 11:49 AM)
TS doesn't even have right to his own said artwork, let alone claiming copy right abuse.

And no youtuber would side with TS lol. Strike and claim is literally the bane of the community.
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Probably ts would win in copyright and fair use.
Bandai would use trademark instead of copy right that another level of legal system.
Usually big company wont interfere these small drama. Cause will make big impact on sales.
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QUOTE(BlackMambo @ Sep 21 2020, 10:58 AM)
It doesn't, just like it doesn't protect ts from drawing the artwork in the first regardless if he being paid to do so.

In this comic/art world we all rely on good wills of these companies.
And these companies in turn were hold favorably as a return. They are, after all, wouldn't want to draw the ire of their core fan base.

As for youtube video, fair rights is also a good will from youtube and the companies involved.
As long as you are not being blatant about it, this fair rights is applicable.

TS is like these IP company, but without good will, whom overzealously protect his IP.
But he is currently at a worse position since he doesn't have the right for this IP in the first place.
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you can use all these words about goodwill, but simply using the artwork exposes ts to litigation risk - something which the youtuber has no right to do. the youtuber himself can get away by claiming fair use but he leaves ts holding the bag.

ts has a right in reporting it (although he would be wrong to profit from it) to protect himself. its like buying a car for private use then someone else uses it for commercial purposes - you dont get any profit but you sure are liable to getting fined. the logical thing to do is to tell that person to stop doing it.

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post Sep 21 2020, 11:05 AM

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he is right about the fair use though. suggest you comment on his video that you didnt know YT would take the video down and give him a strike. get him to pin your comment so everyone knows that you didnt intentionally get the guy reprimanded by YT.
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QUOTE(Omegalul @ Sep 21 2020, 10:44 AM)
The main point is that TS made a thread where he made himself out to be some kind of victim / martyr, trying to illicit sympathy from /k
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Do remember that Jeremy illicit sympathy from his youtube fanbase first only TS open thread in /k.
J used TS art which is also mean J using gundam IPs ya.
J (who also thief) blame the youtube system for striking him, great. AMDK! rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(drajm @ Sep 21 2020, 10:57 AM)
This is mutually acquired destruction.
Should have contacted him, allow him to use the picture as the guy has good fanbase and indirectly ask him to point them to your site.
win-win
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Yup, indeed mutually acquired destruction.
From what I understand is this guy never give proper credit to TS and ignored TS message ya. hmm.gif
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post Sep 21 2020, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(RallyNight @ Sep 21 2020, 11:01 AM)
Probably ts would win in copyright and fair use.
Bandai would use trademark instead of copy right that another level of legal system.
Usually big company wont interfere these small drama. Cause will make big impact on sales.
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If TS artwork is fair use, then every body under the sun can use it however they want. That is literally the point of fair use.
TS can bitch and moan that his artwork were used without any credit, but that is all the extent of what he can do.


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post Sep 21 2020, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(RallyNight @ Sep 21 2020, 11:01 AM)
Probably ts would win in copyright and fair use.
Bandai would use trademark instead of copy right that another level of legal system.
Usually big company wont interfere these small drama. Cause will make big impact on sales.
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For Bandai, this drama is free publicity. icon_idea.gif
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So when is u going to die
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QUOTE(empyreal @ Sep 21 2020, 10:36 AM)
that doesnt protect ts from any allegation that ts sold the work to that youtuber for his public use.
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TS didn't sell anything yet. Just saying, TS can indeed sell his time to help the youtuber create fans art. And the youtuber can claim it was his fans art. Legally speaking.

The youtuber moneterising the fans art or not, it is the youtuber problem.
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QUOTE(supfinal @ Sep 21 2020, 02:28 AM)
aku tak kisah pasal duit, aku miskin tapi happy...
video dia 13 minit
tapi aku lukis 3-4 jam baru nak siap...
pastu dia ambik hak kita tak mau mintak izin...
pastu nak pulak suruh artis nih susun jari email abam famose youtuber tolong laa jgan pakai artwork saya nih..
ada masuk akai ka?
sorry i got angry  sweat.gif
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You're absolutely correct, if he wanna use your stuff he should be the one emailing you not the other way round, serves him right for getting striked by you.
He even challenge you say you won't spend belambak duit to fight him in court.
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legal letter cease and decease
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QUOTE(grumpydrive @ Sep 21 2020, 10:37 AM)
He says that but still blames TS.  Just ignore lah TS. Hopefully he gets a 3rd strike baru dia nangis darah.
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i don't think he blamed TS though i skipped some parts haha
his rant is more towards Youtube's system but still got mention TS, it's his fanbase that kacau TS

i don't like his channel actually, quite obnoxious lol, block him from recommendation

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