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post Jan 26 2022, 08:42 PM

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Nice TV's and so much knowledge in here. Curious, as these TV's are expensive when compared to Malaysian's average monthly salary..how much do you all earn and what do you do for a living?
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post Jan 26 2022, 11:53 PM

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Looks like I spoke too soon when I said earlier about no PS5 games running at 120fps, Uncharted Thief's Legacy Collection PS5 upgraded version does run at 120fps, albeit 1080p120fps on Performance+ mode, still not 4K120. Either way, My 10USD is ready this Friday for the upgrade. And I'm still waiting to get the same collection on PC when it releases, for the real 4K120.






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post Jan 27 2022, 12:38 PM

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just got my PS5 yesterday, wanna ask all sifu if i have budget not more than RM3K what is the best TV choice for me ? sorry im not rich cannot afford a TV more than RM4k T^T sad.gif
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post Jan 27 2022, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(zihun03 @ Jan 27 2022, 12:38 PM)
just got my PS5 yesterday, wanna ask all sifu if i have budget not more than RM3K what is the best TV choice for me ? sorry im not rich cannot afford a TV more than RM4k T^T  sad.gif
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Top up a bit can? Get 55" Sony X90J. Try and scout for good deals. You should be able to get below RM4K.

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post Jan 27 2022, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(zihun03 @ Jan 27 2022, 12:38 PM)
just got my PS5 yesterday, wanna ask all sifu if i have budget not more than RM3K what is the best TV choice for me ? sorry im not rich cannot afford a TV more than RM4k T^T  sad.gif
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Like what Kahlamx suggested, save a bit more and get a better TV. Currently X90J 55" is in the 4299 range or lower. Wait for promos
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post Jan 28 2022, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(KomradMikhail @ Jan 26 2022, 11:53 PM)
Looks like I spoke too soon when I said earlier about no PS5 games running at 120fps,  Uncharted Thief's Legacy Collection PS5 upgraded version does run at 120fps, albeit 1080p120fps on Performance+ mode, still not 4K120. Either way, My 10USD is ready this Friday for the upgrade. And I'm still waiting to get the same collection on PC when it releases, for the real 4K120.


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Update to this. The USD10 upgrade to PS5 version is now online. Playing now. Fidelity at 4K30, Performance at 1440p60, Performance+ at 1080p120.

I tried Performance+, if I come from PS4 non Pro version, I'd be happy with the image quality, but I've been long spoiled by 4K120 on my PC, so I'm going to stick to either Fidelity or Performance mode.


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post Jan 31 2022, 11:51 AM

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In my case, used almost 10-12 hours on weekends, 5-6 hours on weekdays. Used for movies, for console gaming, and the most punishing? As PC monitor for my "Switch PC". Zero burn in. Bright and vibrant as the day it arrived last year September.
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post Feb 2 2022, 11:11 AM

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Got a 55X90J last month but no where to get a decent price PS5 ... HELP!
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post Feb 3 2022, 02:42 PM

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Looks like I will be shopping for a 2022 model as my LG C7 OLED is dead. With the panel replacement costs, its essentially the price of a new TV.

Any LED models that would be worth looking out for?

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post Feb 3 2022, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Feb 3 2022, 02:42 PM)
Looks like I will be shopping for a 2022 model as my LG C7 OLED is dead. With the panel replacement costs, its essentially the price of a new TV.

Any LED models that would be worth looking out for?

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Cant go wrong with the C2. I cant say for long term review since I only got my C1 since last year September, but it has been a champ for me so far. I'm using it to watch streaming content, gaming with my consoles, and as my PC monitor. The PC monitor part should worry most OLED users, as the danger of burn in is more prevalent over static images, and PC desktop has tons of static image elements, no burn-in so far. The C1 cleverly shifts static element of images ever so slightly to combat burn-ins. And there's also auto-dimming and manual "pixel cleaning" you can initiate yourself. The C1 IIANM has a built in schedule of mandatory pixel cleaning once it hits 3000hrs of usage.

I guess it's a coincidence you mentioned your C7 which was released in 2017. Vincent had good luck with his 2017 OLED until now, no burn-in.



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post Feb 3 2022, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(KomradMikhail @ Feb 3 2022, 03:00 PM)
Cant go wrong with the C2. I cant say for long term review since I only got my C1 since last year September, but it has been a champ for me so far. I'm using it to watch streaming content, gaming with my consoles, and as my PC monitor. The PC monitor part should worry most OLED users, as the danger of burn in is more prevalent over static images, and PC desktop has tons of static image elements, no burn-in so far. The C1 cleverly shifts static element of images ever so slightly to combat burn-ins. And there's also auto-dimming and manual "pixel cleaning" you can initiate yourself. The C1 IIANM has a built in schedule of mandatory pixel cleaning once it hits 3000hrs of usage.

I guess it's a coincidence you mentioned your C7 which was released in 2017. Vincent had good luck with his 2017 OLED until now, no burn-in.


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I doubt I will go back to OLED TBH. Putting the burn in risk aside (which I am pretty sure is much better in the newer models), I have an issue where my TV is simply not bright enough as my living room has a lot of sun light. During day time, its almost impossible to watch without pulling the curtains. I prefer to go back to LED with high brightness.

My C7 already had slight burn in signs in beginning of 2021. Initially it was only 2 small logos which I could live with, but as you can see from the pictures, the degradation has been quite bad since then, in the middle part of the TV, and its not watchable now.
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post Feb 3 2022, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Feb 3 2022, 03:09 PM)
I doubt I will go back to OLED TBH. Putting the burn in risk aside (which I am pretty sure is much better in the newer models), I have an issue where my TV is simply not bright enough as my living room has a lot of sun light. During day time, its almost impossible to watch without pulling the curtains. I prefer to go back to LED with high brightness.

My C7 already had slight burn in signs in beginning of 2021. Initially it was only 2 small logos which I could live with, but as you can see from the pictures, the degradation has been quite bad since then, in the middle part of the TV, and its not watchable now.
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I wish you godspeed and good luck with your future TV purchase. The only way I'd return back to LED, is when MicroLED TVs are mainstream enough in price and market penetration. Will take sometime. I'm the opposite of your case, I've been burned (pun intended) by edge-lighted 4K LED TV I had since 2017 (coincidental again?) the Samsung JS8000, that the light bleed off the edge was so horrible, that it's almost like a terrible lighted border around the TV, the edge started to expand and the borders peeling off due to uneven heat from the edge-lighted LED before I got rid of it and went for the C1.

We all have our biases after terrible things happened to us, I suppose.
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post Feb 4 2022, 10:01 AM

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Video title says it all. If you're going for OLED. Otherwise I'm ill-equipped to help you.
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post Feb 4 2022, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Feb 3 2022, 02:42 PM)
Looks like I will be shopping for a 2022 model as my LG C7 OLED is dead. With the panel replacement costs, its essentially the price of a new TV.

Any LED models that would be worth looking out for?

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I can't speak for others, but I really like Samsung's QLED and Neo QLED (mini LED) TVs. I actually own a Q80T (2020) and QN85A (2021). Both have full array local dimming, and they support HDMI 2.1 too. Only two ports are HDMI 2.1 spec though. Another gimmick they have is Samsung's Q-Symphony, where if you have one of Samsung's supported soundbars, you can combine the TV and soundbar to output sound together. It still can't beat a true surround setup, but it sounds better than if you just use the soundbar. Oh and they are brighter than OLEDs too.
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post Feb 4 2022, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(tripleB @ Feb 4 2022, 10:20 AM)
I can't speak for others, but I really like Samsung's QLED and Neo QLED (mini LED) TVs. I actually own a Q80T (2020) and QN85A (2021). Both have full array local dimming, and they support HDMI 2.1 too. Only two ports are HDMI 2.1 spec though. Another gimmick they have is Samsung's Q-Symphony, where if you have one of Samsung's supported soundbars, you can combine the TV and soundbar to output sound together. It still can't beat a true surround setup, but it sounds better than if you just use the soundbar. Oh and they are brighter than OLEDs too.
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Yeah based on the 2022 initial models, Depending on the final specs and price, I am considering between the Samsung QN90B or the Sony X90K. Of course Samsung would be the better TV at a higher price point, but will need to see the price gap and whether the additional performance is worth the money. Sound wise is not an issue as I am using bookshelf speakers that have optical and HDMI. I'm using a universal remote, so i don't really need the HDMI Syncing features.

For some reason Sony TVs are horribly priced in Singapore compared to Malaysia. Their X90 series are priced in the same region as LG OLEDs and Samsung Neo QLED which makes it a no brainer.
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post Feb 4 2022, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Feb 4 2022, 11:14 AM)
Yeah based on the 2022 initial models, Depending on the final specs and price, I am considering between the Samsung QN90B or the Sony X90K. Of course Samsung would be the better TV at a higher price point, but will need to see the price gap and whether the additional performance is worth the money. Sound wise is not an issue as I am using bookshelf speakers that have optical and HDMI. I'm using a universal remote, so i don't really need the HDMI Syncing features.

For some reason Sony TVs are horribly priced in Singapore compared to Malaysia. Their X90 series are priced in the same region as LG OLEDs and Samsung Neo QLED which makes it a no brainer.
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Are you in Singapore? Is the Sony X90K the replacement model for the X90J? I also bought a Sony X90J for my sister, and I personally think the Samsung QLED and Neo QLED are the better TVs. Better peak brightness, image quality and HDMI 2.1 implementation. The X90J is a Google TV though (rebranded from Android naming), so app support is significantly better. Disney+ is not available on the Samsung app store for example. So if you need to use the Disney+ TV app, and don't have any other means to watch Disney+, then you're SOL. I have the Unifi Ultra box, so at least I'm covered.
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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Feb 4 2022, 11:14 AM)
For some reason Sony TVs are horribly priced in Singapore compared to Malaysia. Their X90 series are priced in the same region as LG OLEDs and Samsung Neo QLED which makes it a no brainer.
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Yeah, the 65 X90J is around 2.3-2.4k sgd , that’s the price last month. I follow Hardwarezone sg display thread and I am so surprise to see the insane price for just a midrange LED tv. 😂

SG side has the X95J also. We don’t have this model in MY.
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QUOTE(tripleB @ Feb 4 2022, 11:55 AM)
Are you in Singapore? Is the Sony X90K the replacement model for the X90J? I also bought a Sony X90J for my sister, and I personally think the Samsung QLED and Neo QLED are the better TVs. Better peak brightness, image quality and HDMI 2.1 implementation. The X90J is a Google TV though (rebranded from Android naming), so app support is significantly better. Disney+ is not available on the Samsung app store for example. So if you need to use the Disney+ TV app, and don't have any other means to watch Disney+, then you're SOL. I have the Unifi Ultra box, so at least I'm covered.
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My understanding is that Samsung TV always don’t track PQ EOTF 1:1 accurately. Normally their TVs always over brighten and black floor level also raised.

I still would want to own one of the QN90 series though if the smaller sizes are VA in Malaysia side.

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QUOTE(tripleB @ Feb 4 2022, 11:55 AM)
Are you in Singapore? Is the Sony X90K the replacement model for the X90J? I also bought a Sony X90J for my sister, and I personally think the Samsung QLED and Neo QLED are the better TVs. Better peak brightness, image quality and HDMI 2.1 implementation. The X90J is a Google TV though (rebranded from Android naming), so app support is significantly better. Disney+ is not available on the Samsung app store for example. So if you need to use the Disney+ TV app, and don't have any other means to watch Disney+, then you're SOL. I have the Unifi Ultra box, so at least I'm covered.
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X90K is the successor to X90J for 2022. Based on the Rtings review, the Neo QLED are definitely better than X90. But the thing is, Neo QLED should at the same time be much more expensive than X90, but the pricing in Singapore does not reflect that. Which is why I said Sony's pricing in Singapore is way off. At the Singapore X90 pricing, its competing against LG OLED and Neo QLED

I don't really care about Google TV, or any TV software for that matter, since I am using an Nvidia shield.
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QUOTE(Kahlamx @ Feb 4 2022, 12:01 PM)
My understanding is that Samsung TV always don’t track PQ EOTF 1:1 accurately. Normally their TVs always over brighten and black floor level also raised.

I still would want to own one of the QN90 series though if the smaller sizes are VA in Malaysia side.
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I won't dispute that. Samsung likes their picture to look very saturated, often making it look unnatural. Having said that, I like that the TV can go for that brighter look if you prefer. You can always tweak the settings to your liking. For gaming though, they are great. None of that response lag if using VRR or ALLM. I just wish Samsung would support Dolby Vision someday.

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