What do you guys think of the Royal Enfield brand here in Malaysia? Indian made but British brand name - They still have English ties. Harris Performance which Royal Enfield owns is still based in UK. I recently test rode the Continental GT 650 twin which is a cafe racer type bike and the Himalayan a single cylinder 410cc ADV. I found the Himalayan pretty decent as it's lower seat height made it more accessible to shorties like me but for a single, I found it maybe a bit pricey. What I like is the Conti 650. Very punchy engine despite having just 47hp. The throttle response was pretty good and handling was decent as well. Build quality not at Triumph levels but acceptable to me for the lower price at about 47k.

Would like to know your thoughts guys on the brand, servicing (very limited now) and also the Continental GT or Interceptor in comparison to the obvious rivals (those who have ridden the rivals do chip in with your comments) - Triumph street twin 900 and Moto Guzzi V7 III 750 and maybe the Kawa W800. Love to hear your thoughts and feedback. Personally, I prefer the slightly more aggressive acceleration of the Conti GT as compared to the V7 and Street Twin despite having lower power...could be the gearing or torque settings. And the cafe racer position (where the handle bars are taken care of by clip on units and the rider footpegs are set slightly higher and further back as compared to its more relaxed sibling, the Interceptor) also gave it a slightly sharper turn in when cornering as the rider's weight is shifted slight more to the front.

As for the Himalayan, well, I'm not so much a fan of ADVs in the first place... but do share if you have an opinion. For someone with shorter inseams, I think this would be cool for them, especially those looking for something not intimidating in terms of height, which is not from your usual Japanese suspects and, with a 'lower' price that is easy to ride and handle as well.

They sell more of their classic 500 though as I was told but those too are not my cup of tea as well.

There are more techy, modern cafe racer or retro inspired Japanese models like the SV650X and the Kawa Z900RS or even the Honda CB1000R but those are a very different kettle of fish altogether. Same formula but thoroughly different in execution - very much more modernised.

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no experience, just wana kepoh.. lol.

RE, the indians know best, it's national treasure, very sure got tons of infos from them.

Here. Its the only (big cc) new bike with a very old design+look. Over price yes, resale value sure drop alot aswell.

Saw 2016 street twin for 37k, almost twice the low end torque of re650. It's easy to lower the bars, not sure bout clíp ons.

This post has been edited by basilisk: Aug 21 2020, 12:27 PM

2011 w800 for 28k...

as retro as u can get...

https://m.mudah.my/view?ad_id=85194051&shar...&share_to=other

It is really a good price but it just doesn't capture the attention. I do love the Speed Twin though but that (new) is almost double the price of the RE Conti GT. Even the Street twin is about 10k more than the RE. For the kind of pull the RE offers and at its price point, it looks like a good deal, just don't expect Triumph levels of build though. Wondering about aftersales support too

The 2019 Street Twins are best though. Comes with better brakes and 10hp more than the earlier models.

malaysia RE owners....

Yup, I think I got in touch with some of them via FB. So far they say the bike is pretty reliable and have no issues so far. Brand really needs more marketing apart from FB!

Actually I am not into really retro, retro. I do like it skewed a bit more towards modern like maybe 55% modern and just the looks 45% retro. So I do like bikes like the R9T or the Street and Speed twins but I like Royal Enfield's price. A Japanese modern retro I was considering is the SV650X. That is pretty cool. Lower price too than the RE.

This post has been edited by lowpro: Sep 22 2020, 02:24 PM

they know the price is high... it's for niche market...

RE is setting up kilang in Thailand.

so mebe in 2yrs time, will be bit cheaper here...

I hope so. Seems they are under threat too from newer models and other brands even in India - Kawasaki W175 and the Honda H'ness 350. They need to seriously do 2 things - 1) modernise their line-up like Triumph (I have always said Triumph had a good business model mix of retro and modern bikes to find the younger market). The other thing they need is look at emerging trends. They can't go on selling old flavoured bikes to their home market forever while ignoring the requirements of the international market.

As for the local market, to put the 650 twins with taxes, on the road below RM40k would open up a wider market for them. Now it is priced really too close to the Triumph Street Twin and you can also get multiple Japanese bikes with way more cc and performance. The retro market here is very niche so they need a strong USP to pull numbers away from Triumph and the similarly priced Japanese bikes.

moto gusi guzzi lelong...





This post has been edited by basilisk: Oct 25 2020, 03:41 PM

Nice but the rocking from left to right at idle due to the engine format and the lack of a tachometer in models other than the racer and special is a bit funny.

This post has been edited by lowpro: Oct 26 2020, 08:11 AM

With this Thai assembly happening soon:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54429714

there is a possibility or EITHER one 1) Prices come down or 2) the dealers here make more money per bike...

haha, yeah jz like boxer bmw...

idle rev lean one side ok, but slipping clutch during jam will have some effect as well, need to get used to it...

For the record...
Nov 2020 msia price.
Lets see if the future thai assembled RE will be cheaper...

Yup. Curious as to which direction the local importer will take; either lower the price to fight the competition (I heard the new Triumph Trident will come in with a very, very enticing price compared to the RE 650 Twins), or, to maintain the price and earn more per bike...my take as a marketing person for donkey's years, would be to lower prices. The 650 twins need to offer a pricing advantage over the MT07, the Z650, the CB650R and the upcoming Trident simply to build up mass (and public notice of the brand). They just don't offer the performance desired by the younger target market that RE needs to pull into the brand, hence, pricing would be a good initial strategy. Selling on nostalgia alone isn't going to work and they will just attract a more mature age group. Not something you want if you have other models to come by later on in the product pipeline, like the more affordable Meteor and the 650 Twin based cruiser.

Heard that the Meteor could probably come in next year...but no idea exactly when or the pricing. The Meteor has a Tripper navigation device that I hope would be made available in other RE bikes later on...that also I wonder when...

By the way, looks like this is a private room for both of us

tarak hal la... open forum ma

however evidently LYN being a tech forum first and foremost, and tech is usually associated with youngsters... no surprise cruisers/retro following is lesser compared to modern bikes loaded with... tada - tech.

Hahahahaha, didn't plan on seeing you in this thread Open forum but didn't think many would read what goes on in here.

Yup, you hit the nail right on the head about youngsters being not so interested in cruisers or retro simply because they're loaded with...no tech! . So, RE needs a much stronger proposition instead of selling just on nostalgia to push metal. Price is a good start...accessories is next and then offering performance upgrades at affordable prices. One of the fun things of buying a retro is customising and for it to happen, the base price needs to be affordable to make the entry point easy in the first place.

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many lurkers around la... me included obviously lol

if we follow Triumph Trident, they can still keep the retro design and looks, however the meter is totally modern with bluetooth music connectivity and turn by turn navigation

and yes i do agree, my teammate/colleague who's a new rider, went with cruiser - Honda Rebel, and he loves customizing/accessorizing the bike
and yeah, going with retro look too.

LYN...

the last surviving forum in msia...

not just the 2 or 3 of us here...

youngsters these days move on to apps like 'Discord'

I was like .. wtf is that...

haha out topic liao....

That new meteor bike... when ppl found out the price in india, they got no mood bout the bike , cos they can tell the price will be too high if its ever imported to msia...

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+1

Yes agreed on this. The 650s are at 15-17k RM back home. But you have to understand Indians pay 5 RM for a liter to move that thing. So you win some, you lose some.
Meteor is even cheaper....

No wonder those guys in India keep asking about fuel consumption Not a big deal here though

Yup, the Trident is an excellent new roadster with a hint of classic. It is, I would say in the same formula as the Honda neo-classics or the Suzuki SV650X. They're modern bikes that look modern with just a hint of the past but they're largely closer to modern than retro.

My son asked me to download Discord. Did that, used it once or twice...it is still there somewhere in my phone...probably waiting to be uninstalled

cheapest bike everywhere but malaysia. shame

Yup, it is a real pity but hopefully the new models coming in will give the importer a chance to re-align the pricing and work out more units on the road. RE is a decent brand with a chance to succeed. Just need the right strategy to do so.

I doubt RE will change, they seem a lot more greedy. I will give you an example of prices from India Vs here for the made in India bikes:

NS 200: RM 8000 (India) RM 11500 (Malaysia)

Dominar: RM 10500 RM 15000

Apache RTR 200 RM 6200 RM 11000

Interceptor: RM 16000 RM 45000

So see the percentage difference they charge vs Bajaj or TVS.

Modenas is setup by the msian gov to be like proton.
So it has 'special' bla bla bla..
the bikes are allowed to be priced much lower.

currently the ns200 is less than rm10k. ~9.4 k
dominar otr price now 12,xxx.

fully imported RE frm india will have other bla bla bla tax imposed, and other blablabla...

so we end up with that price.

Thats the reason I added the RTR200 also which is from TVS and no liaison with any Malaysian company. Correct me if I am wrong.

Well, hopefully they can lower the prices a bit when they start ASEAN assembly in Thailand which should give RE some cost savings. They really need to sell on price for this moment to build up units in operation to make it worthwhile for dealers. Dealers need to stock up spare parts and they need bikes to service...

tvs imported by a company called ''Daju motors'.
bike assembled in indonesia.

Now dealer is offering @ rm6.5k only.



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so re frm thai is kambing.... ??
how much cheaper can it bee??
price back in 2019,
now taken by didi new distributor,
reply frm sales advisor..

Test rode the Continental 650 GT last year, loved every bit of its retro quirk.... especially the air-cooled engine, coz it's a proper 270-crank twin!

But for the asking price, hell no...!!

There should be quite a lot more of these Conti GT 650 or Inter 650 running on Malaysian roads soon. Thankfully, the new distributor has the right business model in place to increase market share. The old distributor wanted to perhaps sell just a few bikes and relax for the whole month; not a good idea for a brand that wants to increase market share, order more parts and bring down manufacturing costs for better profitability...they failed to understand that RE is not a premium brand and needs to start low. The irony is this. The RE Conti GT is on average about RM5k to RM10k cheaper than my SV650X in other countries but it was the opposite with the previous distributor. Its no wonder why they lost the brand distributorship

expensive cos its cbu india mar,

now thai factory oredi in production, so can cheaper abit lo..

if can cheaper than mt07 then mebe more ppl will buy here..

https://www.autocarindia.com/bike-news/roya...thailand-422750

You can hope, but its not going to happen....unless a less greedy distributor here starts to CKDs it here.

At the current price of RE here, it is a non starter. There are plenty of other better bikes for the price.

I would be happy with a Himalayan if it was priced more reasonably.

Can't use that point. The SV650X is CBU Japan...so, it is still cheaper than the CBU India? The RE bikes should be cheaper regardless whether Thai made or not. Anyway, let's hope that the new distributors do the brand some justice. I am not a fan of their Bullet, Classic or Himalayan models but I do hope that their 650 Twins catch a goof share of the market here. They need to be priced to penetrate.

That was the previous distributor based in Shah Alam. I believe the new guys know what they're doing and from my chats with the key people, their business model is different with a strategy to increase numbers. Only way is to make it affordable (much more than before).

i dono bout tax stuff,
mebe got indian export tax or smthing?
but produce in thai definitely hv some tax advantage when imported here. / south east asia

price of new ugly mt07 mebe will increase when launched here, current price oredi 38k++,

You're right about the MT07 being ugly. Come to think of it, so is the new MT09. Well, let's hope that RE under Didi gets a better push here in Malaysia. They do look good. The 120 anniversary 650 models look super but unfortunately, Malaysia couldn't get allocation

If the interceptor price can be < MT07 then it would be a worthy option compared to overpriced z900rs and discontinued w800, from the reviews it sounds like a great simple reliable bike but at 50+- k its simply out of their mind.

What's the expected price compared to the current 50k ?

Well, the dominar 400 and the base Himalayan sells for the same price in India.

The dominar is 13500 here, gone as low as 12500 stuffed with freebies. And the price of a Himalayan here?


Blame greedy distributor and taxes.


Let's hope the new distributor will be less greedy and make make the effort to CKD them here.

ckd kenot lo..

cheaper bout 10k maybe.. lol..

since the sales guy on fb said est below 40k...

They do implement Export sales tax for CBU out from India...

That's why RE build a ckd factory in Thai...

Aside from that.. Chear hardly giving affordable price for their bikes.. but that's yesterday story .. let see Gasket Alley how much they will position the pricing..

Between RM35k and RM39k. I heard it would definitely be below RM40k.

sales guys text book....

price in thailand

Pretty good video

Most expensive version comes up to about RM31k thereabouts. Should be a decent price. Hope the local price will be close to that.

31k for special chrome edition?

Now that's really attractive.

I'm honestly tempted by the Conti GT 650 with that new price range...makes it more accessible to more buyers. That RM10k price difference is a big boon for buyers.

If we are talking about the 50k current price, its a 20k difference, it goes from "out of their god damn mind" to "wow this bike looks pretty good, cheaper than the big 4 too" range.

Yup, that's probably the strategy they are employing, to flood the market with bikes at a lower price. It is a cycle. More bikes in the market, more parts dealers will spring up and more independent mechanics will also start doing these bikes. But it has to start with the importer/distributor. If they want to just sell 2 or 3 bikes a month and shake legs for the rest of the month, that market share growth and the benefits that come with it wont come about. The product is fairly decent but the price was not commensurate with what the products offer...until now.

There are more exciting products on the way like the Meteor 350 as well as the cruiser based on the 650, oh plus the scram411 (which looks way better than the Himalayan it is based on). Those new ones will only get noticed if the current bikes are able to storm the beachhead and create inward growth into the market. Once the brand is established, then only slowly push up the prices. We need to understand also, that the distributor needs proceeds from the margin to be plowed back into providing better customer service.

I'm hoping that the new team really does justice for this brand. And, if you haven't heard the exhaust note of the 650 twin, you should

Lets hope thats how it would pan out. at 30+ K, it looks to be finally a contender and can work at dropping the "are you mad" sticker shock. I could see myself getting the new Himalayan if the price was reasonable.

That price will cement them to go directly against the Chinese middle weights like CFMOTO and Benelli. A decidedly more high tech 700CL-X is priced 29k on the road, but I get the appeal of a simple, classic bike provided it has a pricetag to match.

u can just imagine u r riding a re650 with higher performance engine, when u r on ur sv..

the sound kinda same liao.. .

price announce today??

https://youtu.be/SUI9dVvSZWs

Sorry... Dunno how to embed video...

u hv to remember, re is a budget bike in india...
outside of india, price is more..

There are S&S big bore kits for 750cc and 865cc for the 650cc bikes. Not easy to fit them though. Check out the video below:

https://youtu.be/N7nHqVu5npE

Wow, one kick to break the lock and just hotwire it

launch new bike actually..:

Looks pretty decent but I can't find the price or specs anywhere. Btw, here's the launch video:

https://fb.watch/bNc2WkgIC-/

Yeah, RE doesn't really fit into the premium market aka the Triumphs and the big-4s retros, it sits a notch above the chinese bikes market considering its factory in india and thailand, where it should compete in price but providing "heritage" and "engineering".

the video show bike need to hotwire to start, sadly some bikes are even simpler. if have immobilizer, that will up the price a lot. even with immobilizer, next thing you know, youtube will have videos teaching how to program new keys.

other bikes got their dash stolen becoz factory design allows for quick release, and the bike cannot start without the dash

extra locks are still a necessity

guys,
RE price has dropped
Himalayan rm29,990 and the 650 only around rm33k-35k.
very tempted now.

first batch group buy can get interceptor 31k haha. but limited unit and all sold out.

heard that they have changed distributor hence the price dropped, is it?
I'm interested in the Himalayan.

still don wana openly announce the price,
test market first...
assembled in thai, hence price drop

I'm guessing this price only offered to those who walk in at the PJ store?

Last I heard their Shah Alam place closed already.

The Shah Alam place was the HQ of the previous importer and a JV with Chear Motor. The Gasket Alley place is under the new importer, Didi Motors. Good that the price is now more realistic and that the brand expansion strategy with a low price entry point is sure to attract more into the brand. I like riding the Conti GT. Very nice handling and the sound is 100% nicer that what my SV can produce

350 price...
so 650 will be around..

Starting from RM35k (OTR) as I was told...sounds real good!

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ok wow, few year old used price should be good.

If want to start cheaply, can consider the Meteor 350. The brown colour is really nice. At 27k plus (highest, cash price).

That's still quite pricy for a 350 single. Nice looking bikes but the prices for what they are is still not inline with the global market peices.....just don't seem a good geal.

Arguably, the duke390 is a far better bike technically wise for similar price. I'm sure some would pay it for the heritage branding and style.

Yup, if looked at from a purely performance standpoint, it won't seem worth it but as a concept, perhaps it would work. RE is usually not about performance but more of the lifestyle and the riding experience it gives. Rarely about outright acceleration or speed as most reviewers have pointed out. As for me, I really like the Conti GT but too much hassle to let go of my SV for it. The Meteor seems nice for a cruiser though. Hmmm, there aren't any new branded cruisers with warranty for around the price right?

This post has been edited by lowpro: May 22 2022, 07:01 PM

Well you still have the Honda Rebel 500 for a more traditional chopper/cruiser. If you ask me, I'd take the rebel over the meteor any day of the week. Yes it's more expensive, but more bike.

There are Chinese offerings like the 15k Benelli imperiale. Why the meteor 350 costs 10k over the Benelli is beyond me.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: May 22 2022, 11:39 PM

imperial locally assemble, + mforce purposely price it cheaper.
re in india is a low cost bike / poor man's triumph they say...lol
but here, they don wana make it too cheap la..
pretend atas abit mar.. lol
but i think used price will drop alot la,
so eyeing on used one day...

Nothing wrong with paying for style, IMHO. One thing I will never understand about many Malaysian riders is the scene of judging when products offered are not solely based on price-to-performance and trying to push other people toward that mindset. Overseas, this is not such a big deal and the 'tambah sikit dapat...' and 'baik beli...' crowds are almost non-existent - you can just buy whatever you like and are encouraged to do so. I really do wonder why this is the case.

I myself am not a performance-based rider, so I applaud RE for bringing in these bikes at a lower price compared to before. If we want a wider variety of bikes in Malaysia, then we have to start accepting that riding is not all about paying the least amount of money for the biggest HP and torque figures that amount of money can buy.

In the end, if the person who bought the bike is happy with it, then just be glad for them. It's their money to spend. But on the other hand, do criticise them if they complain about pickup and topspeed AFTER buying one of these 'gaya' machines lah, since that is proof of uninformed purchase.

Tampah sikit dapat is not of unvalid concerns. For instance before didi got it, RE is sold at 50k , 52k otr, with that price you have a whole range of products for you to choose from, heck you don't tampah sikit, you bayar kurang sikit and you could get Kawasaki and Yamaha.

At 60k you could get Z900RS with 3x the hp, nimbleness, and the reputation of reliability of Kawasaki and a sense of Made In Japan-esque feel. Its natural to make comparisons on the logical side (the specs) rather than purely emotional considering its still 50k worth of hard earned money. Overseas doesn't have this much concerns mainly because instead of investing a huge chunk of your income monthly for the loan, they are going to just strap on their belt, stop drinking starbucks for a month or so and they can make up the difference for the "better bike", you'll see their concerns when doing comparisons between bikes like "but the abs version is 300$ more, so if you are strapped in cash maybe you could skip it". For some reason they make the 300$ sounds like a big deal. Probably because they have nothing else to say.

I have no problem with buyers choosing style over function.

Its just me, I dont find RE a value proposition. Regardless if style or performance is what you are after. I actually quite fancy the Himalayan and the new Scram 411. Just that previously the price is something the side of madness.

Dont compare other countries lah. Bikes are relatively cheaper. You can have a few.

Would you chose a Continental GT or the Kawasaki 650RS?

Even with the example you presented: if a person wants to buy RE at the original 50k price, as long as they know what they are getting into, it isn't my problem, nor should it be anyone else's. Just honestly how I feel about that subject.

If you mean manufacturer reputation instead of specs then I agree, because Japanese brands are known for reliability and have a proven track record. But I think to compare Z900RS, which is more or less a sportsbike wearing old style clothing, to something that is actually retro is comparing two different riding styles. HP, torque and other figures are sometimes an emotional thing as well since Malaysians generally just love speed and big numbers.

Anyway, someone who will not use most of that power and prefers the RE/Triumph/etc., aesthetic will be better served buying one of those machines instead of a Z900RS. I do see your point, but perhaps a Triumph machine like the Street Twin or a Kawi W800 would have been a better comparison.

Hmm, this is true of developed countries with bigger purchasing power compared to ours, but what of other developing nations like Thailand, Vietnam and India? Do you think their bikers' general mindset, and variety of bikes they get is just because of the size of their bike market compared to ours, or is it also because they can accept more than just specs-based purchases? Honest question.

I'm also not sure how the financing in our neighboring countries works compared to ours. Maybe they get better deals in general.

True, but compared to before this is more acceptable. As someone else said above, the used prices will be even more attractive. We even get the 3 year unlimited warranty if purchased new. Only real concern is their dealer network and replacement parts.

I don't think that is true of all other countries, even if we only count among our neighbors. IIRC, we do get some models for cheaper here.

I'd prefer an RE Interceptor over those two since I don't enjoy the Continental GT's riding position (have sat on one years ago) and already experienced Kawi's 650 engine in a family member's ER6N and Versys. Love the Interceptor's looks and exhaust note.

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For the SEA, its considered as "price sensitive market" and so yes, the people are very concerned about the prices of the products, that's why the most popular are the one with the most bang of the buck, the one with the most power, looks fast, and priced within means. Of course there's outliers that will buy for the sake of owning the style they likes, but that's the minority. RE is immensely popular right now in the west not only because its looks and feels, its also because its literally 50% the price of its symbolic competitor the Bonneville, and its still 30% cheaper than the newly renewed Kawasaki W800, you can see they can simply overlook some quality issues exactly because its 50% cheaper.

What RE did now is a great move, DIDI owns harley and from what I know, they are planning to acquire Triumph as well. This will make them cover the Ultra Premium Harley, Premium Triumph, and budget friendly RE for their retro-heritage products and they could organize bigger events for all three brands under the umbrella of retro-heritage events or something and thus boost the culture.

As discussed at the earlier pages, this price will attract tons of buyers and from the reception of the recent Distinguished Gentlemen Ride, SEA are having cafe racer/ retro craze as well. This should give RE handsome sales and incentivize them to bring in more spareparts and possibly penetrate into the sub-urban areas and thus support shouldn't be an issue. I'm really looking forward into the next few years, I can see the er6n/er6f era coming back again but this time, its a time machine that brings us retro bikes goodness.

Price sensitive yes, but even within SEA, I feel like Malaysia is one of the most obsessed with having the most power for the money. You can see what I mean if you read comments on Indian/Philippines/Thai/Indo motorcycle review videos on Youtube where they talk about different subjects like fuel economy and compare to the comments on similar Malaysian videos where the main complaint is not enough power.

Perhaps that's due to our law enforcement being lax and riding groups in general favoring speed and sportsbike style riding. I don't believe this is just because of the value of hard-earned money and specs being logical, but also because of the value that our society tells people to put on their money. Still a very interesting subject and something that I always thought about since I started riding years ago.

In the west, it is understandable. Their purchasing power is much higher as you mentioned previously. I've even seen videos of people buying cheaper 300+cc bikes to use for a mere 2k kms over half a year and then selling it off.

This I agree with fully. My real concern with RE at the moment is spare parts availability and after sales service.

Of course everyone wants cheaper price, but unless they CKD the bikes locally, that's unlikely.

But Thais are not sensitive to prices. I always check with Thai websites for prices.

www.royalenfieldthailand.net

z650rs price lagi mahal

They are very concerned about fuel efficiency because, you guessed it, fuel is not subsidized and cost 2x compare to us so it will be a major concern for them. Power comparison normally only limits to spec warriors that blow water at mamak shop but normally boils down to "but you can't ride that fast anyway." Its fun to be comparing specs and power and torque are the easiest to talk about, otherwise you'll do comparisons on comfort and quality that is really hard to describe without you seeing it in person, not even 4K videos are able to tell unless its really bad welding or paint chipping off.

Most SEA youtubers do their videos by reading the spec off the brochures anyway and less about riding feel because to be frank, bikes within the same class are more or so the same in build and performance and sound so theres not really much to talk about especially when you are trying out a press release bike.

Remember the guys that moan about not enough power in the comments sections in PT and others sounds the dumbest so they are always downvoted to hell and get pushed to the top of the comments.

I agree with you on the point of power. I once remarked that for the price, my 650 has about 70++hp while the RE Conti GT 650 only has a paltry 47hp due to its air cooled engine. He then asked me back something that made me think... "Can you fully make use of all those 70 plus horses you have? If you can't, you don't even need those horses. Just buy what you're comfortable riding and don't bother about the cc to hp ratio".

I guess we will see if this becomes the case here as well with the impending blanket fuel subsidy removal. And I admit that I do not ride in groups, which is probably another reason I can't really understand local riders' mindset. For me, this has always been a mode of transport and a solo hobby where I observe other road users instead.

Didn't know PT comment section was like this. They should really fix that and kick downvoted comments down instead of pushing them up. Adds absolutely nothing of value to the discussion and only enables trolls.

u can find some useful info regarding re bikes here..

https://forum.classicmotorworks.com/index.p...vo3j827lai3&#c2

This post has been edited by basilisk: May 28 2022, 01:17 PM

The comparison also applies with Honda X-ADV...its less than 60hp but the price is around 70k+

which obviously you can get other bikes with more horses when reaching that price bracket.

Malaysian buyers (mostly) do have concerns about their bike performance, after all, we in this region are the only one that has an "autobahn" like highway stretching within the peninsula... not soo much about fuel economy, but hey when it comes to big bike who cares about fuel economy? because I've seen many Thai big bike riders ride like maniacs on their Route 12 road or those Pinoys blasting through their EDSA Highway in Manila with their more than 400cc bikes

As long the buyer is happy with their decision.. by all means, do get the RE..

Anyone test ridden the Meteor 350 already? Any feedback?

buy buy buy!
more used bike in few years time! lol

this wobble at low speed, can happens to any motorbike,

even my kapcai does it, but its over 10yo oredi,

many re owners reported this issue,
so the re parts wears out faster n causes this??