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jaycee1
post Mar 8 2022, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Mar 8 2022, 10:15 AM)
expensive cos its cbu india mar,

now thai factory oredi in production, so can cheaper abit lo..

if can cheaper than mt07 then mebe more ppl will buy here..

https://www.autocarindia.com/bike-news/roya...thailand-422750
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You can hope, but its not going to happen....unless a less greedy distributor here starts to CKDs it here.

At the current price of RE here, it is a non starter. There are plenty of other better bikes for the price.

I would be happy with a Himalayan if it was priced more reasonably.
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post Mar 8 2022, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Mar 8 2022, 12:32 PM)
i dono bout tax stuff,
mebe got indian export tax or smthing?
but produce in thai definitely hv some tax advantage when imported here. / south east asia

price of new ugly mt07 mebe  will increase when launched here, current price oredi 38k++,
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Well, the dominar 400 and the base Himalayan sells for the same price in India.

The dominar is 13500 here, gone as low as 12500 stuffed with freebies. And the price of a Himalayan here?


Blame greedy distributor and taxes.


Let's hope the new distributor will be less greedy and make make the effort to CKD them here.
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post Mar 15 2022, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(chantakzee @ Mar 11 2022, 03:59 PM)
If we are talking about the 50k current price, its a 20k difference,  it goes from "out of their god damn mind" to "wow this bike looks pretty good, cheaper than the big 4 too" range.
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Mar 15 2022, 11:16 AM)
Yup, that's probably the strategy they are employing, to flood the market with bikes at a lower price. It is a cycle. More bikes in the market, more parts dealers will spring up and more independent mechanics will also start doing these bikes. But it has to start with the importer/distributor. If they want to just sell 2 or 3 bikes a month and shake legs for the rest of the month, that market share growth and the benefits that come with it wont come about. The product is fairly decent but the price was not commensurate with what the products offer...until now.

There are more exciting products on the way like the Meteor 350 as well as the cruiser based on the 650, oh plus the scram411 (which looks way better than the Himalayan it is based on). Those new ones will only get noticed if the current bikes are able to storm the beachhead and create inward growth into the market. Once the brand is established, then only slowly push up the prices. We need to understand also, that the distributor needs proceeds from the margin to be plowed back into providing better customer service.

I'm hoping that the new team really does justice for this brand. And, if you haven't heard the exhaust note of the 650 twin, you should  biggrin.gif
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Lets hope thats how it would pan out. at 30+ K, it looks to be finally a contender and can work at dropping the "are you mad" sticker shock. I could see myself getting the new Himalayan if the price was reasonable.

That price will cement them to go directly against the Chinese middle weights like CFMOTO and Benelli. A decidedly more high tech 700CL-X is priced 29k on the road, but I get the appeal of a simple, classic bike provided it has a pricetag to match.
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post May 22 2022, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ May 22 2022, 06:30 PM)
If want to start cheaply, can consider the Meteor 350. The brown colour is really nice. At 27k plus (highest, cash price).
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That's still quite pricy for a 350 single. Nice looking bikes but the prices for what they are is still not inline with the global market peices.....just don't seem a good geal.

Arguably, the duke390 is a far better bike technically wise for similar price. I'm sure some would pay it for the heritage branding and style.
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post May 22 2022, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ May 22 2022, 07:01 PM)
Yup, if looked at from a purely performance standpoint, it won't seem worth it but as a concept, perhaps it would work. RE is usually not about performance but more of the lifestyle and the riding experience it gives. Rarely about outright acceleration or speed as most reviewers have pointed out. As for me, I really like the Conti GT but too much hassle to let go of my SV for it. The Meteor seems nice for a cruiser though. Hmmm, there aren't any new branded cruisers with warranty for around the price right?
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Well you still have the Honda Rebel 500 for a more traditional chopper/cruiser. If you ask me, I'd take the rebel over the meteor any day of the week. Yes it's more expensive, but more bike.

There are Chinese offerings like the 15k Benelli imperiale. Why the meteor 350 costs 10k over the Benelli is beyond me.

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post May 24 2022, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ May 23 2022, 04:41 PM)
Nothing wrong with paying for style, IMHO. One thing I will never understand about many Malaysian riders is the scene of judging when products offered are not solely based on price-to-performance and trying to push other people toward that mindset. Overseas, this is not such a big deal and the 'tambah sikit dapat...' and 'baik beli...' crowds are almost non-existent - you can just buy whatever you like and are encouraged to do so. I really do wonder why this is the case.  hmm.gif

I myself am not a performance-based rider, so I applaud RE for bringing in these bikes at a lower price compared to before. If we want a wider variety of bikes in Malaysia, then we have to start accepting that riding is not all about paying the least amount of money for the biggest HP and torque figures that amount of money can buy.

In the end, if the person who bought the bike is happy with it, then just be glad for them. It's their money to spend. But on the other hand, do criticise them if they complain about pickup and topspeed AFTER buying one of these 'gaya' machines lah, since that is proof of uninformed purchase.
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I have no problem with buyers choosing style over function.

Its just me, I dont find RE a value proposition. Regardless if style or performance is what you are after. I actually quite fancy the Himalayan and the new Scram 411. Just that previously the price is something the side of madness.

Dont compare other countries lah. Bikes are relatively cheaper. You can have a few.

Would you chose a Continental GT or the Kawasaki 650RS?
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post Jun 24 2022, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Jun 23 2022, 07:24 PM)


this wobble at low speed, can happens to any motorbike,

even my kapcai does it, but its over 10yo oredi,

many re owners reported this issue,
so the re parts wears out faster n causes this??
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Worn headstock bearings, unevenly worn front tyres, overcorrection by rider etc etc.

More aggresive tyres can cause or be more susceptible to wobble. It depends on the thread design if which part of the thread block is in contact with the road, or, you could have an on/off grip profile on different parts of the thread edge.
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post Jul 25 2022, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jul 25 2022, 01:49 PM)
Yup, agreed. I think people don't mind the price but at least give it comparable spec (meaning better performance, maybe twin front discs, tubeless tyres and their tripper system) to the competition and better build quality.
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Quality wise, the Meteor has much much higher build quality than the INT650. The welds on the Himalayan is atrocious.

Was at RE the otherday and was impressed at just how good the Meteor was. Too bad I'm not in that market.

Give them some time and I think they would be churning out much higher quality bikes. Afterall, india is not unaccustomed to building bikes for the Germans and Austrians. BMW is basically not bothered to do anything but sticker in a new badge on the new G310RR.
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post Sep 9 2022, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 8 2022, 05:11 PM)
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Too bad Didi just can't a price break. Must be a lot of taxes on the CBI unit.

I was hoping a price closer to 20k.

In india the scram 411 is actually cheaper than the Dominar.
At that price here, must as well get the versys 250
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post Sep 9 2022, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Sep 9 2022, 11:08 AM)
20k expectation is quite unreasonable unless they have good cable with government and/or CKD facilities on our soil.

Also IINM you can't buy Versys 250 brand new anymore and the ones that were brought in by old Kawi distributors lack ABS that the Scram has, which may be a dealbreaker for some. Maybe if the rumors of the Suzuki V-Strom 250 SX are true, that will be the safer, Japanese-brand choice since it is fully equipped at the cost of reduced off-road capability.
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There is still the KTM250 ADV at 23k. IMHO a far more capable bike if you can stomach KTMs less than stellar reliability record.

I am looking forward to the vstrom 250 though..and given Suzuki's general pricing..might be an interesting option.
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post Jul 30 2023, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Jul 27 2023, 05:49 AM)
macam macam ada...

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Himalayan 650? That's a weird one.

Considering the new 450 engine is coming out soon and that big lump 650 is going to make the Himalayan even heavier.
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post Sep 5 2023, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 5 2023, 03:08 PM)
motorbike owner's worst nightmare...

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wait what? its a simple bike. So difficult to trouble shoot meh?
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post Dec 4 2023, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Dec 4 2023, 10:35 AM)
Looks real sweet! Just wondering when they will upgrade the instrumentation of the GT and Inter as per the Super Meteor and Shotgun. Hope they give those 2 slightly more updated instrumentation.
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The new cluster on the Himalayan 450 on the GT and Interceptor would look sweet.
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Nov 22 2024, 12:56 PM)
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This bike somehow  doesn't feel as classic as the 350, 500
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Pretty sure anyone that is going to own the bike will ditch that for a shorty mudguard ...

 

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