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post Aug 9 2007, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(lee088 @ Aug 9 2007, 12:18 AM)
OCBC power credit is a standy revolving loan - it is like a reserve and the interest is only charge when the money is withdraw from the account.  The rate is slightly lower than credit card, I think is 1.4% p.a. The max amont is 3x  salary.  Comparing with personal loan, here is what I think:

The good
smile.gif Pay-as-you-use.  You only charged on what you have withdrawn.  Personal loan is all at one goes.
smile.gif A standby credict.  You do not have to use it if you don't want to but has the option.  For personal loan, once it approved, you have to pay all the interests according to the terms (period), and that there is a panelty on early settlement.  In sort, personal loan 'locked' you.

The bad:
sad.gif Rate is higher than personal loan (pls take note that the 'flat rate' is not the actual interest rate as it does not take into account that over a period of payment, the original principle has reduced but the interest rate still based on the original amount, thus the actual rate is usually much higher than what advertised)
sad.gif Max amount is capped at 3X of income, Personal loan is 5X

Conclusion:
The Power Credict is best to treat it like an overdraft facilities, or a line of credict for emergency.  Therefore is probably most helpful for businesses, or for someone who forsee a large expenses comming soon but not 100% sure but want to be prepared for that eventuality. The 'flexibility' is why it is more 'expensive' (higher rate) than personal loan.  If what you need is flexibility, take OCBC.  All others, take personal loan.

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very good analysis.
btw, the interest is 1.4% per month.
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QUOTE(lee088 @ Aug 9 2007, 12:18 AM)
OCBC power credit is a standy revolving loan - it is like a reserve and the interest is only charge when the money is withdraw from the account.  The rate is slightly lower than credit card, I think is 1.4% p.a.  The max amont is 3x  salary.  Comparing with personal loan, here is what I think:

The good
smile.gif Pay-as-you-use.  You only charged on what you have withdrawn.  Personal loan is all at one goes.
smile.gif A standby credict.  You do not have to use it if you don't want to but has the option.  For personal loan, once it approved, you have to pay all the interests according to the terms (period), and that there is a panelty on early settlement.  In sort, personal loan 'locked' you.

The bad:
sad.gif Rate is higher than personal loan (pls take note that the 'flat rate' is not the actual interest rate as it does not take into account that over a period of payment, the original principle has reduced but the interest rate still based on the original amount, thus the actual rate is usually much higher than what advertised)
sad.gif Max amount is capped at 3X of income, Personal loan is 5X

Conclusion:
The Power Credict is best to treat it like an overdraft facilities, or a line of credict for emergency.  Therefore is probably most helpful for businesses, or for someone who forsee a large expenses comming soon but not 100% sure but want to be prepared for that eventuality. The 'flexibility' is why it is more 'expensive' (higher rate) than personal loan.  If what you need is flexibility, take OCBC.  All others, take personal loan.

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OCBC sounds interesting however if i were to keep the money inside, can the money grow like savings? I do not need the money at this moment but would like to keep in case of emergency. Furthermore I'm doing my own business right now, and would never know I might need it someday, maybe in 6 months time to a year wink.gif
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post Aug 10 2007, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(hanalolu @ Aug 8 2007, 08:07 PM)
Depend on tenure.

2 years - 7.60%
3 years - 7.68%
4 years - 8.40%
5 years - 9.18%

Interest in on flat rate, anualy
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I've calculated the corresponding effective interest rate for comparison.

Citibank flat rate - effective rate
2 years - 7.60% - 13.97%
3 years - 7.68% - 14.00%
4 years - 8.40% - 15.00%
5 years - 9.18% - 16.00%

OCBC Power Credit
1.4% per month = 18.16% effective per annum

Normal Credit Card
1.5% per month = 19.56% effective per annum

This does not take into account all the other charges (eg processing fees etc)

Hope it helps.
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post Aug 10 2007, 11:07 PM

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Besides the interest rate, one must also need to know if there is any early settlement penalty imposed. As for Al-Rajhi vs Citi, Al Rajhi does not have any penalty while City charge 3% of the outstanding loan balance. EIR is a good way to know the actual cost of borrowing. One should ask whe applying such personal loan.
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QUOTE(vergas @ Aug 10 2007, 12:36 PM)
I've calculated the corresponding effective interest rate for comparison.

Citibank  flat rate -  effective rate
2 years - 7.60%  -    13.97%
3 years - 7.68%  -    14.00%
4 years - 8.40%  -    15.00%
5 years - 9.18%  -    16.00%

OCBC Power Credit
1.4% per month = 18.16% effective per annum

Normal Credit Card
1.5% per month = 19.56% effective per annum

This does not take into account all the other charges (eg processing fees etc)

Hope it helps.
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why u did not put al -Rahji bank in ? Are they better than your citibank...ehehe laugh.gif
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post Aug 11 2007, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Aug 11 2007, 07:33 PM)
why u did not put al -Rahji bank in ? Are they better than your citibank...ehehe laugh.gif
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Because I don't know their terms (duration of the loan). So I can't calculate. I need flat rate and the duration, in order to convert to effective interest rate.
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post Aug 12 2007, 12:23 AM

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Al-rajhi Interest rate 8.5% p.a. flat.

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post Aug 12 2007, 10:55 PM

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yo joseph(hanalolu),

just wondering if one is interested in a personal loan of only less than 1 year?
or perhaps lets just say 9months only (max tenure), is it possible?!

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post Aug 13 2007, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(hanalolu @ Aug 12 2007, 12:23 AM)
Al-rajhi Interest rate 8.5% p.a. flat.
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Regardless of durations?
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post Aug 13 2007, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(ernie @ Aug 12 2007, 10:55 PM)
yo joseph(hanalolu),

just wondering if one is interested in a personal loan of only less than 1 year?
or perhaps lets just say 9months only (max tenure), is it possible?!
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Take the min tenure - 2 years, after that perform early settlement after 9 month...
But there will be penalty charged.
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post Aug 14 2007, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(hanalolu @ Aug 13 2007, 09:34 PM)
Take the min tenure - 2 years, after that perform early settlement after 9 month...
But there will be penalty charged.
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ic, sounds quite good.
9months is the minimum tenure?
penalty i presume is 3% of the balance loan amount?
or...??
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post Aug 14 2007, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(ernie @ Aug 14 2007, 12:55 AM)
ic, sounds quite good.
9months is the minimum tenure?
penalty i presume is 3% of the balance loan amount?
or...??
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Minimum tenure is 2 years. Your case is :

Take the loan, let say 10k, after few month (the months as you like), and you perform early settlement. It would probably charge RM200 or 3% of your outstanding balance, which ever is higher.
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post Aug 15 2007, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(vergas @ Aug 11 2007, 09:24 PM)
Because I don't know their terms (duration of the loan). So I can't calculate. I need flat rate and the duration, in order to convert to effective interest rate.
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Their website also not helping much ... instead of product announcement, the owner mentioned that his bank didn't sponsor any terrorist activities. hmm.gif they have promotion last time and the rate is around 7% pa flat rate. Dunno whether the promo rate is still available or not.
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QUOTE(nocar @ Aug 15 2007, 06:21 PM)
Their website also not helping much ... instead of product announcement, the owner mentioned that his bank didn't sponsor any terrorist activities.  hmm.gif  they have promotion last time and the rate is around 7% pa flat rate. Dunno whether the promo rate is still available or not.
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Promotion on 7% flat ? Quite high also leh.. even not promotion, some bank can offer this rate.
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post Aug 16 2007, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(hanalolu @ Aug 16 2007, 11:09 AM)
Promotion on 7% flat ? Quite high also leh.. even not promotion, some bank can offer this rate.
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if you can offer 7% flat for 5 years term, i will pm you again!
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QUOTE(nocar @ Aug 16 2007, 11:15 AM)
if you can offer 7% flat for 5 years term, i will pm you again!
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It is not under my control lah bro. sad.gif

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QUOTE(hanalolu @ Aug 16 2007, 05:52 PM)
It is not under my control lah bro.  sad.gif
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Hmm.... have to hold my project then. Wait until Budget Plan 2008, try my luck if govt want to provide incentive for consumer to make more debts to buy luxury goods to spur the domestic market spending.
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post Aug 17 2007, 05:26 AM

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Just wondering if any chance for self employ person for apply personal loan? Buy car can, but dunno about personal loan.someone got experience please share.Thank you notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(eijazz @ Aug 17 2007, 05:26 AM)
Just wondering if any chance for self employ person for apply personal loan? Buy car can, but dunno about personal loan.someone got experience please share.Thank you  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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I did get my loan, and I'm self-employed. Documents required are more or less the same but with a trading license and current account statement, and a credit card. I applied through HLB. If you know the finance advisor, then he/she will tell you what's the best reason to choose for the loan (you need to tell your reason). Otherwise, choose house renovation. The chances of approval are the highest amongst all in their loan guide. Don't tell them that you want the loan for your business, sure reject. laugh.gif
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I want to take a personal loan but currently working outside Malaysia. How do i take the loan because i dont have the EA form or EPF. Citibank sounds interesting.

Do pm me

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