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Markup loan legal perspective, Need your view
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mini orchard
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Jul 27 2020, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 27 2020, 08:22 AM) In criminal trial, bank may need to send staffs to court as witness. 'confirmed received' without actual transaction is a FRAUD. Bank staffs accomplice in marked up ? When did lawyers ever asked for proof of deposit payment other than the booking letter ?
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khoocheekit
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Jul 27 2020, 08:54 AM
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TBH it is very easy to understand,
If buyer and developer, then it's legal coz buyer have no chance to "pakat" with developer; the same, if buyer buying with owner or subsale, it is confirm illegal as they can "pakat" with them to have a discount or fast cash.
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mini orchard
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Jul 27 2020, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(khoocheekit @ Jul 27 2020, 08:54 AM) TBH it is very easy to understand, If buyer and developer, then it's legal coz buyer have no chance to "pakat" with developer; the same, if buyer buying with owner or subsale, it is confirm illegal as they can "pakat" with them to have a discount or fast cash. Cashback from developer 'legal'? Free MOT 'legal' ? Free lawyer fee 'legal' ? Then why marked up in subsale cannot be cashback, free mot and legal fees ?
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icemanfx
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Jul 27 2020, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jul 27 2020, 08:36 AM) Bank staffs accomplice in marked up ? When did lawyers ever asked for proof of deposit payment other than the booking letter ? Suggest you to ask your lawyer 'confirmed received' without actual transaction is a fraud or not. This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jul 27 2020, 09:17 AM
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mini orchard
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Jul 27 2020, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 27 2020, 09:16 AM) Suggest you to ask your lawyer 'confirmed received' without actual transaction is a fraud or not. My lawyer say no wor ! That is not his business. He see documents only. Signed means confirmed received ! This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jul 27 2020, 09:20 AM
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icemanfx
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Jul 27 2020, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jul 27 2020, 09:18 AM) My lawyer say no wor ! That is not his business. He see documents only.Signed means confirmed received !
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mini orchard
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Jul 27 2020, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 27 2020, 09:16 AM) Suggest you to ask your lawyer 'confirmed received' without actual transaction is a fraud or not. Need live video recording of cash changing hand ? Can be done also . Infront of lawyers ? Can be done also !
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mini orchard
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Jul 27 2020, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 24 2020, 08:20 AM) As long as loan is repaid on time is fine. Have a firmed stand in your discussion !
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khoocheekit
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Jul 27 2020, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jul 27 2020, 09:15 AM) Cashback from developer 'legal'? Free MOT 'legal' ? Free lawyer fee 'legal' ? Then why marked up in subsale cannot be cashback, free mot and legal fees ? Why not? as long as bank admit it. Actually there is a grey area for buyer to buy a house with affordable situation, bank can earn more interest from the loan and also developer can sell their unit more easy, it's actually a triple win situation. As long as not misuse by some party to earn cash flow or any other "bad" things. If you are rich enough, of coz u can pay reject for the cash back, pay the MOT and lawyer fees, you even can pay the downpayment tho. No offence.
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icemanfx
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Jul 27 2020, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jul 27 2020, 09:30 AM) Need live video recording of cash changing hand ? Can be done also . Infront of lawyers ? Can be done also ! Bank in slip should be sufficient. those wanted to mark up loan are unlikely to have cash.
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mini orchard
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Jul 27 2020, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 27 2020, 10:26 AM) Bank in slip should be sufficient. those wanted to mark up loan are unlikely to have cash. Seller bank in own money and pass slip to buyer and show lawyer ? Can aah ? This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jul 27 2020, 10:29 AM
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icemanfx
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Jul 27 2020, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jul 27 2020, 10:28 AM) Seller bank in own money and pass slip to buyer and show lawyer ? Can aah ? In leasing, proof of deposit paid (i.e bank in slip) is required before loan disbursement. it is a matter of time, housing loan will follow their leasing colleagues sop.
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mini orchard
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Jul 27 2020, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 27 2020, 10:46 AM) In leasing, proof of deposit paid (i.e bank in slip) is required before loan disbursement. it is a matter of time, housing loan will follow their leasing colleagues sop. We talk marked up. Not leasing lah. Ada lain meh ? Seller still can bank in. Why talk future ? This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jul 27 2020, 10:54 AM
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icemanfx
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Jul 27 2020, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jul 27 2020, 10:51 AM) We talk marked up. Not leasing lah. Ada lain meh ? Seller still can bank in. Why talk future ? Borrowers need to marked up are mostly subprime, a reason why npl on housing loan is rising.
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mini orchard
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Jul 27 2020, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 27 2020, 11:23 AM) Borrowers need to marked up are mostly subprime, a reason why npl on housing loan is rising. Dont speculate. That is not the point for discussion. Repeat .. default by borrower is lain cerita This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jul 27 2020, 11:28 AM
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icemanfx
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Jul 27 2020, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jul 27 2020, 11:25 AM) Dont speculate. That is not the point for discussion. Repeat .. default by borrower is lain cerita Marked up loan is fraudulent.
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mini orchard
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Jul 27 2020, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 27 2020, 11:32 AM) Marked up loan is fraudulent. Is not marked up loan ! Is marked up snp price !
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mini orchard
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Jul 27 2020, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 24 2020, 08:20 AM) As long as loan is repaid on time is fine.
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cannible
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Jul 31 2020, 03:09 PM
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When talk abt mark up, so long bank valuation can meet the value. Why not.
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ngaisteve2
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Dec 7 2021, 06:05 PM
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So markup spa price is legal or illegal,?
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