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 Proton X50 2020 v1, B-Segment killer

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zero5177
post Oct 8 2023, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 8 2023, 04:38 PM)
Welcome to Turbocharge small displacement engine. Only some window of driving make it fuel efficient. Dont worry, even BMW owner with Turbo engine, owner ask why their FC heavy daily driving work to KL peak hours. Best for me for FC is NA engine with bigger CC (above 2L). Drove Accord 2.4, JB - Bukit Mahkota with average speed at 140 - 150kmh with some section jammed until stop still retaining 14.0km/l based on meter. My X70 CKD will give around 11.5km/l the best for similar routes and styles
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Not really a concern to me tbh, spent for a powerful SUV over 100k I'm not expecting savings from FC.

In term of power this car really can give u the power you looking for, but you gonna pay with higher fuel consumption and that's normal to me.
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post Nov 1 2023, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Nov 1 2023, 03:45 PM)
would you still recommend this car in 2023?
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Depends your need, I would say current version is the better version VS older batch which prone to wind noise at high speed.

Currently in SUV market for B-seg SUV around this price range, no doubt the engine is really powerful.
The critics about 3 cylinder just gonna say haters gonna hate, it was pretty nicely managed, you only felt the vibration when you purpose go and feel it, but it was among the best 3 Cylinder in term of vibration felt in car. I tried Ativa/Almera they did worse in this aspect.

So far my 2 years ownership is all doing fine no issue with breakdown.

Current closest contender to X50 is the Cherry Omoda 5 with CVT gb.

For Corolla Cross my gripe will be the super outdated 1.8 VVT-i engine, more forgiving if they gave the DF engine like the other countries, but some people don't mind about it.
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post Nov 1 2023, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(lawrencesha @ Nov 1 2023, 10:57 PM)
Anyway to turn off the lane departure warning? It is damn irritating.
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Setting via meter cluster there, under LKS if not mistaken.
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post Nov 2 2023, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Nov 2 2023, 08:08 AM)
u using flagship? or standard?
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Flagship 25k mileage, 2 years ownership

QUOTE(josh5671 @ Nov 2 2023, 09:55 AM)
addition:

comparing 3cylinder of ativa with X50 literally a joke at the first place.
Only proton/x50 hater claim ativa 3cyl better than x50...and you not even saw any x50 owner complain about the engine vibrate but ativa group flooded with engine vibrate post.
ativa's engine really exact match how malaysian 'known' about 3cyl engine...
almera i didnt try it as my local nissan salesman just B*llcrap only will condenm other brand's feature, but own nissan giving nothing.

me flagship, so far only 2 complain:
- drive shaft 'krok', asking some people seem like its boot problem. after checking with proton SC they 'fixed' it, but coming back weeks later. (thats why i suspect driveshaft boots)
- flywheel noise (yea, my flywheel come up noise already, already ordering parts...date unknown)
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Well, although their 3 cyl is more inferior, they will still crush u with RV, fuel consumption and quoting X70 X90 catches fire to your face and in the end label u ccp supporter.
Anyway most of these people don't own any or probably not even tested any of those models they are comparing with.

By the way how the flywheel noise sounds like? any occasion it gets loud? I want to try to simulate that maybe its some noise I did not pay attention to since the sound insulation is quite good.
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post Nov 2 2023, 11:03 AM

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While I am giving opinion about Corolla Cross and Omoda 5 in my previous reply, I unintentionally missed out the HRV then I did a search in HRV thread seems like it wasn't active..
did the popularity for HRV fell so much? for what reason? Corolla Cross at least I still hear about news it overtake X70 in term of sales.
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post Nov 2 2023, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Nov 2 2023, 11:07 AM)
HRV waiting time too long.. how I know because I surveyed this model as well.. need wait until 1 year.. also the infamous steering rack issue is also notorious for HRV

X50/X70 at least ready stock

i do am interested in X50 , but sked of the aftersales/ QC issues. hence asking opinions of fellow owners here
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I'm but just a sample size of X50 user here, so far in this thread if u read the history the more popular topic is about modding the headunit to install AA/CP and there is not much breakdown case.

Those cases from Facebook I would say sometimes it depends on the owner, some owner sikit sikit also complain although it is normal or clearly written in the manual.
Like example the Engine Oil stick indicator some ppl get really nervous when saw the level is at 4 (about half of the stick indicator) while in manual it says as long it is more than 1 bar it is sufficient. Maybe they should redesign the stick so ppl don't get misled.

Sometimes these same group of people if they bought Japanese made they would not doubt these little thing although the Japanese had cheated in fuel consumption test and safety test. I guess something to do with ppl's confidence with Proton & China products that've planted a bad impression in their mind from the start so they keep trying to find fault from it.

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post Nov 2 2023, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Nov 2 2023, 12:47 PM)
ppl still buy that old engine because old but it die die works
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On the bright side yes, but on the flip side that's one really old engine that no one wants out of southeast asia.

While ppl condemn the X50 3 Cylinder which is launched at 2018 as dumping ground in Malaysia,
but at the same time people also turned a blind eye to Toyota even worse dumping the almost 20 years old engine to Malaysia.

Old but reliable, but does it justify we should not enjoy their latest DF engine tech? If the 2ZR-FE were so good, why bother develop DF engine right?

If you notice those threads people open about their 10+ years old Toyota engine need servicing because overheating/oil consumption, the reply is largely supporting it is wear and tear with helpful recommendations and totally acceptable but when similar thread opened about Proton Campro needing these service, most likely will get bashed first for owning Proton expected to have these problems.

It is already planted in their mind, Proton/Geely will need a lot of efforts to change the consumer's mindset.
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post Nov 9 2023, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(death_nite @ Nov 8 2023, 10:20 PM)
Well it could be due to pricing too.
Corolla cross has bigger space and feel like much worth it. The crv will be pricing on the high side too. Lol.

Btw, have u seated on the new hrv? Ive tried before. It is uncomfortable and some how my feet feel awkward especially sitting on the co driver seat. Meanwhile x50 have better space and more relax position.

Not a fan of omada 5. I think the material quality is a bit lesser than x50. Corolla cross can be hrv/crv killer if they have EPB. They just need to update they tech a bit.
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Haven't get a chance to try on HRV yet, Corolla Cross definitely win in term of space, infact the leading one in B-seg SUV. The newer HRV boot about the size of X50 nothing to shout home about.

Cross I just do not like the idea of the near 20 years old engine, they should give DF engine as seen on the other country.

Omoda also did not get a chance to try on yet.
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post Nov 28 2023, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(kiien_kyan @ Nov 28 2023, 11:56 AM)
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Hi i would like to ask, some of you guys might install this.. i wonder, how do you guys keep the original one?
isit throw it away, or keep at home for future replacement, or can sell it?
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I would say keep it if your house have space, always good to have spare when needed, like example if you find the normal one more preferable after some time?
Because the original one would lift together with the boot when opened which I find convenient to put stuff because the bootspace for X50 is more wide than tall, I find myself needing that tall space quite frequent when loading/unloading without the need to adjust.

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post Dec 22 2023, 05:03 PM

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If I were to rotate tire for Flagship, would my tire pressure on display messed up?
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post Dec 22 2023, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(rkwan67 @ Dec 22 2023, 11:26 PM)
No. Just reset yourself at the speed cluster, the built in sensor will refresh and switched side
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Like as in long press at the tyre pressure section?
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post Dec 26 2023, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(filidon @ Dec 25 2023, 06:45 PM)
just went and tested the X50, very satisfied with the NVH and while driving at high speed 110/120, wind noise barely noticeable , maybe slightly. now i am at the junction of choosing between Honda city or X50. Honda city got more stuff but then the tyre noise really unbearable. the car only run 600km + and the tyre is Proxes R57.

overall X50 got more premium driving feel as compare to honda city
and yes the door of X50 when closed was very very solid
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Most of the time you already have answer in your mind the pros and cons between City and X50.

in my opinion X50 huge upgrade over City

But City will have better public acceptance than X50
And City will have bigger boot space, interior space should be around X50 or bigger

If you want to experience tech, Power, SUV and premium, get X50

If you want good FC, better public perception, big boot, get the City.

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post Dec 28 2023, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(filidon @ Dec 27 2023, 02:26 PM)
Oh i see. Thanks you for the sharing
need to recheck back the review in the past then
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For X50 if FC is one of your top 3 concern is better you stay out of it especially if you heavily involved in city drive.
The urge to press the pedal is there, u bought the car with such power feel a bit waste to keep controlling your foot utilizing only small part of the power it can provide.

Highway drive it really can sip acceptable level of fuel if you drive within speed limit.

my FC can range from 6km/L in city to 14km/L in highway because I live in hilly area with 2km drive per trip at <30km/h speed, but that itself I only fuel up like twice a month at total cost <RM150 per month so the FC doesn't concern me

Trunk road aggressive drive from KL to Kota Bharu got me about 13km/L, 5 hours journey with lots of Sport mode pedal to floor overtaking.

You can find my 2 years record below.
https://www.fuelly.com/index.php/car/proton...ero5177/1109960
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post Jan 12 2024, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(n8210 @ Jan 12 2024, 09:22 AM)
What brand of tyres are you guys using after initial tyres have worned out?
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2 years 25k mileage still plenty lol... Maybe UC7 when change
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post Jan 27 2024, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Jan 23 2024, 10:36 AM)
I was interested on your input on retirement fact. I am retired and am considering X50. Its just me & wife now, so this SUV suits me fine. Am concerned over the engine getting rough over time. I have heard a 2+ year X50 engine, does sound a bit loud & rough. Any feedback on this issue?
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Mine 2 years+ still doing fine, TGDI

speaking from inside cabin, no weird noise, engine still quiet, vibration didn't get noticeably annoying annoying or worse. Not sure how it is compared to day 1 but at least I didn't get annoyed of any increasingly worse noise/vibration if there is.

my mileage only 20+k now with lots of city drive at hilly area.

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post Feb 6 2024, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Feb 6 2024, 09:39 AM)
Whats your average FC for city commute?
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MY city drive is real 100% city drive with hilly terrain and slow speed of <30km/h

It can range from 6km/l - 8km/l

My other Persona VVT 1.6 NA manual transmission doing just 7-9km/l as comparison.
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post Feb 14 2024, 07:34 PM

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If you care about FC i.e. love boasting with ppl about how fuel save your car is, Vios and City are the one to go for

X50 excel in all other aspects miles away.

Edit: Oh ya if u care about boot space, City or Vios are better too

Out of curiosity since you are comparing with Sedan, why rule out S70?

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post Feb 14 2024, 07:36 PM

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post Feb 14 2024, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Feb 14 2024, 09:54 PM)
actually I only got to know about S70 recently

so yea my current option is between S70 vs X50 now ..

S70 has sexy back design  brows.gif quite like it

but I also wondering about any potential issue since it was just recently release

need to wait for few months to hear/read owners' feedback

I'm still hearing issues with 2023 X50 which is abit "frightening"
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Yeah wait mayb 6 more months or 1 year to see feedback.

Powertrain wise like Engine and Gearbox should be pretty good, X50 since launched did not hear any premature failure for engine & GB

The minor one like wind noise also solved for X50 for the later batch.

So far my X50 till today no major issue, only have the wiper sensor not turning off which they eventually solved after tweaking.
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post Feb 15 2024, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Feb 14 2024, 11:31 PM)
hopefully the X50 facelift is coming soon together with AACP

that may change my decision ....  icon_idea.gif
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If you have time and not in a rush, you can always wait and observe thumbsup.gif

Agree if AACP comes together it will be a much better package

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