I'm wondering what matters the most for you hardcore gamers out there.
How're you even surviving with some of the crappy connectivity we hit when playing some serious games!?!?
Gamer's network most important thing is...
Gamer's network most important thing is...
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Jul 10 2020, 12:18 AM, updated 6y ago
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I'm wondering what matters the most for you hardcore gamers out there.
How're you even surviving with some of the crappy connectivity we hit when playing some serious games!?!? |
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Jul 12 2020, 04:57 PM
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The most important is: Bufferbloat. ISP that have Anti Bufferbloat is TIME and Viewqwest Malaysia. Unifi to Telekom Malaysia speed test server: ~7ms Viewqwest to Telekom Malaysia speed test server: ~5ms Having no 0ms Bufferbloat is heaven, you can run Download or Upload all the time but latency not effected! rivacordex and Alpha_Tay liked this post
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Jul 12 2020, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Jul 12 2020, 04:57 PM) The most important is: Bufferbloat. you got trace route result from viewqwest malaysia? is it viewqwest own fibre area or viewqwest TM HSBB area? as i know maxis fibre TM HSBB area has almost double ping to sgp-1.valve.net compare to unifi fibre.ISP that have Anti Bufferbloat is TIME and Viewqwest Malaysia. Unifi to Telekom Malaysia speed test server: ~7ms Viewqwest to Telekom Malaysia speed test server: ~5ms Having no 0ms Bufferbloat is heaven, you can run Download or Upload all the time but latency not effected! |
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Jul 12 2020, 08:28 PM
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strange that unifi fibre lowest ping to any web services is around 6ms, while other FTTH has around 1ms lowest ping? but unifi fibre end user still can get 1ms to other unifi fibre end user connected to the same BRAS.
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Jul 12 2020, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(Alpha_Tay @ Jul 12 2020, 08:18 PM) you got trace route result from viewqwest malaysia? is it viewqwest own fibre area or viewqwest TM HSBB area? as i know maxis fibre TM HSBB area has almost double ping to sgp-1.valve.net compare to unifi fibre. I went to Customer House for some IT services at Setia Eco Glades (2.937678, 101.633800)I didn't run Trace Route, I run many Speed Test, Viewqwest is the lowest ping I ever encountered for Home, IP: 103.232.29.4 8ms to StarHub Mobile Pte Ltd (SG) 9ms to Viewqwest Pte Ltd (SG) 5ms to Telekom Malaysia Berhad (MY) 4ms to IP Core Sdn Bhd (MY) 9ms to Maxis (MY) and get A+ for Bufferbloat at http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest Viewqwest Network very clean, what they claim is true! |
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Jul 13 2020, 02:33 AM
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Jul 12 2020, 09:28 PM) I went to Customer House for some IT services at Setia Eco Glades (2.937678, 101.633800) Setia Eco Glades was the first area of ViewQwest Malaysia Fibre Residential, not using TM HSBB.I didn't run Trace Route, I run many Speed Test, Viewqwest is the lowest ping I ever encountered for Home, IP: 103.232.29.4 8ms to StarHub Mobile Pte Ltd (SG) 9ms to Viewqwest Pte Ltd (SG) 5ms to Telekom Malaysia Berhad (MY) 4ms to IP Core Sdn Bhd (MY) 9ms to Maxis (MY) and get A+ for Bufferbloat at http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest Viewqwest Network very clean, what they claim is true! https://www.lowyat.net/2017/147651/viewqwes...idential-plans/ trace route from unifi fibre to 103.232.29.4 go through viewqwest.myix.my with 7.2ms lowest ping. clean could also mean small network. |
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Jul 13 2020, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Jul 12 2020, 09:28 PM) I went to Customer House for some IT services at Setia Eco Glades (2.937678, 101.633800) Sabah and Sarawak users get 30~50ms on unifi. So how did you compare?I didn't run Trace Route, I run many Speed Test, Viewqwest is the lowest ping I ever encountered for Home, IP: 103.232.29.4 8ms to StarHub Mobile Pte Ltd (SG) 9ms to Viewqwest Pte Ltd (SG) 5ms to Telekom Malaysia Berhad (MY) 4ms to IP Core Sdn Bhd (MY) 9ms to Maxis (MY) and get A+ for Bufferbloat at http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest Viewqwest Network very clean, what they claim is true! |
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Jul 14 2020, 08:41 AM
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Jul 15 2020, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Jul 12 2020, 04:57 PM) The most important is: Bufferbloat. First time I've heard about bufferbloat. ISP that have Anti Bufferbloat is TIME and Viewqwest Malaysia. Unifi to Telekom Malaysia speed test server: ~7ms Viewqwest to Telekom Malaysia speed test server: ~5ms Having no 0ms Bufferbloat is heaven, you can run Download or Upload all the time but latency not effected! Did a quick read up about that - and trying to understand what it is vs what you're saying. Just reading off https://www.bufferbloat.ne seems to indicate this is device issue? And when you mention that TIME and Viewqwest is anti bufferbloat - can i assume you're referring to the device still or some other setup within their network? |
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Jul 15 2020, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(rivacordex @ Jul 15 2020, 12:23 AM) And when you mention that TIME and Viewqwest is anti bufferbloat - can i assume you're referring to the device still or some other setup within their network? TIME and Viewquest dont have speed cap at ONT side (Hardware defined), the speed cap happen at PPPoE or Account (Software defined).This is how TM making Maxis Fiber looks bad, cap on ONT cause Router received more buffer, more latency. |
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Jul 16 2020, 03:30 PM
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Jul 16 2020, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE(prokiller1199 @ Jul 16 2020, 03:30 PM) That looks really impressive! I've quite a bit worse than yours: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/64859238Bufferbloat is a massive big D This post has been edited by rivacordex: Jul 16 2020, 05:46 PM prokiller1199 liked this post
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Jul 18 2020, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Jul 15 2020, 01:31 PM) TIME and Viewquest dont have speed cap at ONT side (Hardware defined), the speed cap happen at PPPoE or Account (Software defined). TNB Allo and Celcom Timur Sabah networks also doesn't practice bufferfloat. Accounts are capped acordingly leaving full speed on each subscriber's ONT.This is how TM making Maxis Fiber looks bad, cap on ONT cause Router received more buffer, more latency. You'll know this when running speedtests, the result is always slighly higher than your subscribed plan due to some leakages. I don't see the need to double cap users on both ends accounts and ONT profiles. Really stupid TM decision, they only making their network more inefficient and slower. |
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Jul 18 2020, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jul 18 2020, 03:56 PM) TNB Allo and Celcom Timur Sabah networks also doesn't practice bufferfloat. Accounts are capped acordingly leaving full speed on each subscriber's ONT. Yes, Account cap is better! make network much cleaner!QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jul 18 2020, 03:56 PM) TM always back, fake speed test results, horrible Bufferbloat |
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Jul 19 2020, 11:35 AM
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Consistent performance and no ping spike.
Good routing is a huge plus. I notice TIME have a better routing to SG Steam server than TM. |
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Jul 23 2020, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(rivacordex @ Jul 16 2020, 05:45 PM) That looks really impressive! I've quite a bit worse than yours: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/64859238 So silly - i figured out recently, probably due to the heavy thunderstorms late - my ONT unit was turned off for some reason, and the wifi router's connection fallback to the USB 4G dongle unit Bufferbloat is a massive big D Latest test - looks good! Check it out: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/64951007 |
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Jul 23 2020, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Jul 19 2020, 11:35 AM) Consistent performance and no ping spike. How do you see whether TIME or TM has better routing etc.?Good routing is a huge plus. I notice TIME have a better routing to SG Steam server than TM. My PSN connection quite unstable - but that maybe my poor wifi coverage towards the wifi router |
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Jul 23 2020, 07:07 PM
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its no point for low latency, if you get regular packet loss / lag spikes. i often get 15ms to singapore server, ping low, but spike happen that cause a mini freeze and enemies just warp around. ping latency may not show or it shows a jump to say 50ms for example. eventho 50ms is low but the jumping of up and down is worse. rather you stay 80ms consistent than low ping and jump up, not reliable.
stable connectivity is most important. low latency comes second. |
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Jul 24 2020, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(rivacordex @ Jul 23 2020, 12:06 AM) How do you see whether TIME or TM has better routing etc.? Totally no issue with Unifi in Sabah here, I'm playing Monster Hunter World Iceborne in PS4 and never get disconnecting. Line is very stable because I'm using LAN connection. I link one Cat6 cable from upstairs to living because my main router is placed at upstairs with a 16-port gigabit switch. Then my second router is an aimesh node then link one LAN cable to another second 16-port gigabit switch. So the switch get connected my tvbox, ps4, smart tv, living room desktop pc. Line very fast and stable, even tvbox can get 510mbps full speed on speedtest. Just the ping a bit high in Sabah here, 30~40ms. That's why, line stability is very important. Far more important than ping latency. That's why I vote for line stability. My PSN connection quite unstable - but that maybe my poor wifi coverage towards the wifi router Low ping then how? I don't play PUBG, Battlefield and Dota2 sorry, I don't like to play that kind of games. I only play MHW Iceborne because I only like PVE not PVP. Game is playing for fun but not for mad when we get killed by other players especially by bot. Low latency is really useless for me, I really can't feel what is the different between 10ms and 100ms. I admit that results in Sabah here is worse than West Malaysia. http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/64969738 This post has been edited by junclj: Jul 24 2020, 10:35 AM |
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Jul 24 2020, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Jul 15 2020, 01:31 PM) TIME and Viewquest dont have speed cap at ONT side (Hardware defined), the speed cap happen at PPPoE or Account (Software defined). I don't think Unifi is capped speed base on ONT, my Unifi upgrade from 30mbps -> 50mbps -> 500mbps. Last time during 30mbps, TM capped my speed to 27mbps only. After they offer 50mbps free upgrade, my speed can get 52mbps but they never come to my home to replace new ONT. Later that, TM free upgrade my Unifi to 500mbps again, I just need to restart my ONT to get 500mbps. No technicians come to replace my ONT, still remain the same old ONT.This is how TM making Maxis Fiber looks bad, cap on ONT cause Router received more buffer, more latency. |
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