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 Gamer's network most important thing is...

What matters most for you gamers?
 
Super low latency! The lower the better!! [ 53 ] ** [49.53%]
High speed - for all the streaming and twitching. [ 2 ] ** [1.87%]
Stable connectivity [ 28 ] ** [26.17%]
Awesome device (e.g. Netgear Nighthawk, etc.) [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
All of the above - and I'm willing to pay! pay!! pay!!! [ 24 ] ** [22.43%]
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post Jul 18 2020, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Jul 15 2020, 01:31 PM)
TIME and Viewquest dont have speed cap at ONT side (Hardware defined), the speed cap happen at PPPoE or Account (Software defined).
This is how TM making Maxis Fiber looks bad, cap on ONT cause Router received more buffer, more latency.
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TNB Allo and Celcom Timur Sabah networks also doesn't practice bufferfloat. Accounts are capped acordingly leaving full speed on each subscriber's ONT.
You'll know this when running speedtests, the result is always slighly higher than your subscribed plan due to some leakages.

I don't see the need to double cap users on both ends accounts and ONT profiles.

Really stupid TM decision, they only making their network more inefficient and slower.
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post Jul 24 2020, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Jul 24 2020, 01:05 PM)
ONT can be configured and provision by OLT to enforce speed limit, for Unifi User on Unifi Network seen has no speed limit, the speed limit was on Account, that's is why you get extra speed, software defined is not hard as Hardware Level.

because of this, TM can exactly speed cap on other competitors riding on Unifi Network.

ONT speed limit is like physical link speed, so can't get real speed since TCP/IP Overhead!

Way Unifi Provisioning Maxis for example, they cap exactly 300mbps (Internet + VoIP + Management), this very reason when having heavy traffic, VoIP calls can't get through.

during MCO, my VoIP have issue, Maxis login into my Router and they can't get in, so I need stop internet for a while.

I trying to hack Unifi ONT via TTL to RS232, it can be done, just need time to find out.
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True, Maxis and the other ISPs riding on TM Wholesale HSBB should bring this up and sue TM Wholesale for this double level capping(bufferfloat) making competitors look bad.

On the account side already capped accordingly, why must cap the ONT as well and make it exactly the same speed as the soft side? (Example cap the ONT exactly at 30M, 50M, 100M, 300M,500M..etc).

That way the customer will always made to absorb the extra TCP/IP overhead getting less.
(Example subscribe 30M only get 28M max, 100M get only 95M, etc.)

They do this on their competitors but they don't do it on their own ISP? That is DOUBLE standard!

It's time Maxis, DiGi and even Celcom who ride on the HSBB network to sue TM for this anti-competition dirty move.
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post Jul 28 2020, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(rivacordex @ Jul 28 2020, 12:21 PM)
I do wonder - from an end user's perspective, does it matter so much that for e.g. this overhead may be reducing the "full" speed of the network?

I'm just questioning, because, generally, under most scenarios, whether downloading, or streaming stuffs - we generally can't utilize the full speed anyways, and often times, are hampered by the server side who most often times cannot deliver such performances also?
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Depends on the speed plan you're purchasing. Of course for 1Gbps plan, even many 3rd party local servers won't be able to reach anything near but it depends on the user needs and requirements.

The overheads might not be significant, 1Mbps-5Mbps in accounted for but why isn't the ISP/wholesale provider TM being the generous one to absorb it instead using a false adverts which in the end the customer has to give in to the reality that TCP overheads that is preventing them from getting the full advertised speed they were lied to.

It's all about ethics and honesty. My 30Mbps certainly has no issues getting full speed around the world since it's just peanuts to what fibre is capable of in excess of gigabits, for those with packages above 100Mbps that one we can't guarantee lah.
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post Jul 28 2020, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Alpha_Tay @ Jul 28 2020, 01:52 PM)
unifi home install at end of 2017 for unifi Bonanza RM139 30Mbps, FiberHome ONU, tested with other account confirmed that ONU was Capped at 100Mbps, SpeedTest 96Mbps. Receive 10x free speed upgrade at October 2018, Speedtest around 310Mbps, SpeedTest with other account would get abit more. recently, SpeedTest with both accounts would get same SpeedTest result, not abit more anymore. there is single port out of 1-65535 port open at the FiberHome ONU, but not sure when, all ports was closed out of 1-65535 port. unifi installer Didn't provide unifi fibre port password, unifi username, unifi password, unifi phone number, unifi phone number password.

unifi biz install at September 2019, right before 2019 free 3 Months 2 Years Contracts Year End Promo, did subscribe and received YEP after install, Huawei HG8240H5 Universal ONU, Modem Webpages can login with Default Admin and User Password, unifi installer even write down unifi fibre port password, unifi username, unifi password, unifi phone number, unifi phone number password at the fibre modem box. Huawei HG8240H5 Universal ONU is uncapped or maxcapped, confirmed by testing with other account.

remember that alot of, huge percentage of, but not every streamyx 1Mbps account is capped 1.5Mbps at account level?
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About the bolded part, "same result not a bit more anymore".

The problem is other ISPs on TM HSBB such as Maxis is getting "LESS" even on telco's own speed test servers even on the lowest tiered plans.

30M plan you get max 28Mbps(6.7% loss)
100M plan you only get max 95Mbps(5% loss)

Should we get 6% and 5% discounts on our bill because of getting lesser than as advertised? Such low tiered plan is no excuse when doing in house speed servers considering fibre can provide speeds in excess of >2Gbps.

You want to sell best effort and no guarantee 1Gbps plans it's fine by me, but even 30M/100M plans you want to shortchange your customers? doh.gif
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