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 TRION 2 KUALA LUMPUR, JALAN SUNGAI BESI, Another project by Binastra Land

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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Feb 28 2024, 03:12 PM)
Hmm wasn’t the first Trion extremely Airbnb heavy. Even iherng commented that this property is not really for ownstay being sandwiched by cemetery and factories.
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Trion 2 is a very different product. No shops, limited visitor friendly area. Even my agent from Binastra said Trion 2 is not good for Airbnb, the proposed security measures and no attached retail makes it inconvenient for Airbnb. They tried to target well-to-do homeowners or young families looking for own staying near CBD but can't afford or don't want to buy 1k+ psf units.

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Feb 28 2024, 03:24 PM)
Trion 2 is a very different product. No shops, limited visitor friendly area. Even my agent from Binastra said Trion 2 is not good for Airbnb, the proposed security measures and no attached retail makes it inconvenient for Airbnb. They tried to target well-to-do homeowners or young families looking for own staying near CBD but can't afford or don't want to buy 1k+ psf units.
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The facilities do look great. 600 units on 2.25 acres is about the Standard high dense TOD development nowadays. The saving grace is that the units are on the smaller side. I wonder if this is an ongoing trend where newly VP units will mark up management fees due to increased costs and/or weak ringgit.
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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Feb 29 2024, 05:46 AM)
The facilities do look great. 600 units on 2.25 acres is about the Standard high dense TOD development nowadays. The saving grace is that the units are on the smaller side. I wonder if this is an ongoing trend where newly VP units will mark up management fees due to increased costs and/or weak ringgit.
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Word on the street is that management fees are trending upwards from labor and electricity increase, so it checks out.

More so if there's excessive number of pools.
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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Feb 29 2024, 08:30 AM)
Word on the street is that management fees are trending upwards from labor and electricity increase, so it checks out.

More so if there's excessive number of pools.
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Actually looking at the layouts which are small and mainly dual key. This is still mainly an investment product. The average rental income and high management fees will be a problem for some.
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post Mar 1 2024, 12:04 PM

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making dual key unit but not allowed to do airbnb
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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Mar 1 2024, 04:17 AM)
Actually looking at the layouts which are small and mainly dual key. This is still mainly an investment product. The average rental income and high management fees will be a problem for some.
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QUOTE(Najibaik @ Mar 1 2024, 12:04 PM)
making dual key unit but not allowed to do airbnb
lol
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Predict investors either need to force to target expat market or white collar execs.
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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Mar 1 2024, 12:49 PM)
Predict investors either need to force to target expat market or white collar execs.
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Don’t think that’s forced. It’s a dream scenario to get expat tenants who are generally civic minded, tidy and can pay above market. They generally want to be in a community of like-minded people and somewhere they can jog etc. do outdoor activities or super high end. This isn’t it.

Most likely you’re subsidising young locals who need a place close to town with some really nice amenities. The only way for you to compete with all the Cheras developments is to be cheaper.
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post Mar 2 2024, 07:27 AM

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this chan sow lin over supplied with no amenities. standby lelong kaw kaw.
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post Mar 2 2024, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Mar 2 2024, 07:27 AM)
this chan sow lin over supplied with no amenities. standby lelong kaw kaw.
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whole chan sow lin only got 4 serviced apartment

if lelong you can see a lot at bukit jalil, that 1 is really over supplied
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Don’t forget Razak City is closeby. Tonnes of options in the vicinity.
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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Mar 2 2024, 12:39 PM)
Don’t forget Razak City is closeby. Tonnes of options in the vicinity.
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that 1 is sungai besi already

Trion 1&2 is chan sow lin
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post Mar 18 2024, 09:30 AM

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Trion 2 is slaughtering the homeowner by hiking the maintenance fee drastically between 30% - 40%...

What was told in the SPA signing was a scam
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QUOTE(LuckyBai @ Mar 18 2024, 09:30 AM)
Trion 2 is slaughtering the homeowner by hiking the maintenance fee drastically between 30% - 40%...

What was told in the SPA signing was a scam
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i saw trion 1 having mgmt fee hiking, trion 2 same? Actually how much psf now?

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post Mar 19 2024, 04:52 AM

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QUOTE(silverong @ Mar 18 2024, 10:17 PM)
i saw trion 1 having mgmt fee hiking, trion 2 same? Actually how much psf now?
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I believe it was quoted as 0.60 psf. That’s almost T20 level of condo.
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post Mar 19 2024, 07:07 AM

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QUOTE(LuckyBai @ Mar 18 2024, 09:30 AM)
Trion 2 is slaughtering the homeowner by hiking the maintenance fee drastically between 30% - 40%...

What was told in the SPA signing was a scam
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This is common, newbie will believe what is being told. Seasoned investors know whatever rate they quote only last initial 2 to 3 yrs, then will ask for hike during AGM. If u been in JMB or MC, you will know what is the feasible budget per psf. 95%+ owner do not know the feasible rate as most refuse to be in the JMB or MC.
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QUOTE(Cavatzu @ Mar 19 2024, 04:52 AM)
I believe it was quoted as 0.60 psf. That’s almost T20 level of condo.
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Is the TNB rate commercial too for the units?

The fees will go up even more when there are many defaulters or fund insufficient to cover the fancy facilities maintenance. End up facilities deteriorate when insufficient fund, then building goes into slow death. Look at Arte MK. Similar will happen to other Arte.
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QUOTE(butthead76 @ Mar 19 2024, 07:07 AM)
This is common, newbie will believe what is being told. Seasoned investors know whatever rate they quote only last initial 2 to 3 yrs, then will ask for hike during AGM. If u been in JMB or MC, you will know what is the feasible budget per psf. 95%+ owner do not know the feasible rate as most refuse to be in the JMB or MC.
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You’d expect the rates to only go up once your own JMB is formed and passed over from developer. This is right at VP. Bit of a bad taste there. I thought developer would cross subsidise for a bit at least.

Commercial under HDA so you apply to switch to residential rate I suppose.

I think mid range units really need to build with sustainability in mind. Target maintenance at 40c max maybe a bit more if it’s all small units.

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QUOTE(LuckyBai @ Mar 18 2024, 09:30 AM)
Trion 2 is slaughtering the homeowner by hiking the maintenance fee drastically between 30% - 40%...

What was told in the SPA signing was a scam
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in spa wouldnt state how much is maintenance fees, but indeed not yet take keys then hike maintenance fees
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Seems like Binastra "provided" a shuttle van for Trion 2.

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ May 2 2024, 11:03 AM)
Seems like Binastra "provided" a shuttle van for Trion 2.

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lol why shuttle to trion 1

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