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dave99021
post Sep 26 2020, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Xelnagakail @ Sep 26 2020, 02:04 PM)
Today bunch of Uxxfx promoter come to our Tmn to promote their product.

They can piss off after losing so much customer then only come to promote their shit.
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At least you got something, Senyap in my Taman sad.gif
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post Sep 27 2020, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(lowck @ Sep 27 2020, 01:10 AM)
don't angry la,now your house got fibre infrastructure you want to smile liao,many place until now only got streamyx 1mbps hahaha
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What really baffles me is why they intentionally handicap themselves like that? I mean if you are going to cover that area why do such a half arse job of doing it?

Correct me if I'm wrong, they could just pull a multicore fiber underground in one go and terminate to individual FDP for each fiber strand? No?

Though I guess it's probably to create a sense of urgency for the them to sign up by artificially creating demand? Which I guess it probably back fire from that.
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post Sep 28 2020, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(jcws87 @ Sep 28 2020, 11:35 AM)
Yup, I also have the same thought. The first reason why T× is doing so is because most of the house now dont keep or used fixed line anymore, everyone is using mobile. Hence T× feel no need to setup so many FDP but that mindset is wrong and selfish.

Why I say selfish bcos u see, T× want to monopolies the fibre network and they do not want to share the network easily to other isp by not providing enough FDP at an area. Hence resulting to the 2nd reason, reason to why always port full.

Side note : It seem Allo is having some problem with some area unable to go power ON🤔
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Where did you get the news of Allo unable to go power ON ?
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post Sep 28 2020, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(jcws87 @ Sep 28 2020, 12:43 PM)
If u go thru all the CBB agent fb page, u will notice some comment. For example, like tis :-
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Hmm, Problem back at their exchange? hmm.gif

Regardless I will say give it more time, Can't be too harsh to new comer compare to TM which ALLO don't have the resources and experiences to compete with.
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post Dec 4 2020, 09:40 PM

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My Hometown housing area (Taman Ampang) has already started to tanam the pole already. When ask the contractor they reply me still need 1 more month to fully finish the pole placement.
Don't mind waiting for them as I have waited for 10 years for Tx, wait for 1-2 months for them is fine biggrin.gif
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post Dec 13 2020, 11:03 AM

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I was just surveying the state of fiber deployment in Taman Ampang just now. Definitely very interesting phenomenon happening here and I was definitely not expecting happening here ohmy.gif

TNB Allo and both TM Unifi are aggressively rolling out their fiber infra here often overlapping each other places foothold here in Taman Ampang. TM definitely shat it's pants after ignoring my Taman for >10 years.

Everywhere you step in Taman Ampang you could see TNB Allo Polls are being erected both in front and back alley at the house. And beside the pole you can see TM Unifi Yellow Fiber bundle being
coiled up and put beside the pole.

Not sure it's intentional but definitely very cunning instead. After asking some of my neighbours they thought that pole is actually from TM rather than Allo as they have been seeing Unifi Promoter hard at work recently

I will post more pictures of the state of deployment later here once i figure out how to put images on Lowyat forum.
From what i can tell at the moment. TM is having a slight advantage at the moment as they have already put up a new FDC just within a KM from my house. Supposedly that FDC will serve numerous Taman within that area (Taman Ampang/Taman Pelangi etc). Unifi had probably done their fiber pulling jobs ahead of time now and now waiting to setup FDP at the back alley of the houses.

Where as ALLO they had only plant 80% of the pole at the moment (if my estimate was right) and they had been planting since early December. I saw 2 FDC are prepared to be setup within 1-2 KM from each other from Radius
and within 200 Meters from the newly errected TM FDC tongue.gif

Needless to say Allo will be facing a tough time here in this Taman as their presence are still very low at the moment. I could see customer being tied up for 2 years immediately as ALLO are still way behind their deployment compared to Unifi. doh.gif
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post Dec 13 2020, 11:40 AM

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Same thing happening at Taman Cempaka AFAIK. Not sure how ALLO handle their Fiber coverage as they seem to have a bit of a deadspot which my house is located at.
No tiang from TNB but Fibers from TM doh.gif


Pole on the Left side is from TNB allo where TM Fiber is on the right. So this could means that ALLO is willing to overlap TM coverage

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One of the 2 FDC that i saw ALLO is planning, Walk straight for 100meters and you could see TM FDC there.
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One thing i had notice, but not sure if it's just limited to this contractor only is that road with this White circle cross mark are often used to indicate TNB polls or Infa are right there.
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Another FDC that's just within 1-2 KM's apart in radius.
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post Dec 13 2020, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(jcws87 @ Dec 13 2020, 01:37 PM)
Hi dave99021. Can i know is this a new pole?
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I don't quite recall but I think it is.

One back alley will have 3-4 poles for the FDP
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post Dec 13 2020, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(jcws87 @ Dec 13 2020, 04:14 PM)
If so, the new pole is belong to Allo as U××f× use back their old pole. Once u can see new pole (thinner type), meaning that row of house will have Allo.
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Yup, hence why I said Allo and Uxxfx are fighting aggressively in this area.

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post Dec 22 2020, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(jcws87 @ Dec 22 2020, 05:27 PM)
As this list leak out, I can confirm to say you can see T× soon bz laying cable around.
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It's already happening, This list basically just confirm my observation.

If you refer a couple post earlier where I had posted one of the FDC is actually located in Taman Ampang Indah. And that location was not announced before (only Taman Ampang). Tx had already setup their FDC and their cabling along with FDP in that Taman.

Same goes to Taman Ampang as well. When i complained to MCMC on this year March they projected that they will cover my area on Year end December. But suddenly they keep pushing it forward until End of October - Early November. Probably as a counter to Allo expansion. Meanwhile Allo still haven't got their fibers and FDC roll out. Only the poles at the moment.

Tx Promoter are aggressively promoting in Taman Ampang/Cempaka as well. I think I saw 3 in the span of 2 Weeks.

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post Jan 14 2021, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(Ebony & Ivory @ Jan 14 2021, 12:33 AM)
In my Taman front street, there are total six TNB Allo FDP.

While for unifi, only three is available behind my house. laugh.gif
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Only 1 Unifi FDP behind my house at the moment doh.gif

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post Jan 15 2021, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jan 14 2021, 06:38 PM)
Take picture of it if you can post here, we'll compare it with Allo's setup.

Do your part in helping the community!
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I'm not quite sure what's TM doing at the moment. I saw Fiber cable rollup and was put at the side of the pole (probably for 2-3 more FDP for this back alley) but at the moment they just setup 1 for some reason???
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post Jan 15 2021, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Jan 15 2021, 09:26 AM)
TM is another shiet monopoly companies, where last time we don't have second choice but only can choose TM.

Complained for at least 8 years (since 2012) why no UniFi and when are coming, only replied we are sorry, currently we have no idea (no plan) when are coming to your area.

fast-forward to last year when Allo plan to expand into northern region aka Ipoh, wow!!! Their TM efficiency instantly sky-rocket even faster setup than Allo. Now call you and inform you congrats we are coming! (dam finally for freaking 8 years)
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Yeah, This is why we need competition in this industry. TM straight away cover those neglected area by setting up FDP and FDC quickly where those area Allo are targeting.
Allo coverage are still very sporadic at the moment. They only cover certain portion of my Taman at the moment. But once ALLO arrive I will switch to it anyway.
TM just doesn't offer the upload speed I needed at the moment.
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post Jan 15 2021, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jan 15 2021, 01:59 PM)
Just take the picture of your house backlane(lorong) with that only 1 FDP for future referencing and evidence.
Who knows one day you might need to utilize a port from them and they deny your claims. Got picture to show it right in their face.  icon_idea.gif
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Will do, Could be a sign that not much people are using Streamyx in my area and they are just unwilling to setup that much FDP doh.gif
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post Jan 15 2021, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Jan 15 2021, 06:21 PM)
Similar to my Taman, they never bother to entertain any Unifi Fiber request even though they had lay fiber cable for the School next to my Taman since 3-4 years ago.

Just a week before Allo setup poles, two TM agent suddenly appear to collect names for those who are interested in Unifi Fiber.
Then at the end of Nov 2020, TM contractor loop a new fiber cable from the School's FDP to one of their pole at the end of my House row which they could have done that 3 years back & even worst they only install one FDP to support whole 20 house not including shops.🤦‍♂️
Since then they have installed Unifi for three customer by pulling single fiber cable from one corner to another corner for each customer..😂

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And today, they were laying new fiber cable to add another FDP at the same row..
The way i look at it, they probably gonna lay the cable for the whole Taman.

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This is TM mentality, Facing Problem today? Better to leave it till tomorrow and let somebody else handle it doh.gif

Have they have the foresight and setup the FDP properly in one go and don't do any funny business on HSBB infra then they won't have to worry about the lack of adoption and new comers (Since TM have a first mover
advantage and they have the Market share/ name share as their advantage)

I'm pretty sure that it cost more to come back and pull more fibers in underserve area then to do it properly the first time. hmm.gif

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post Jan 15 2021, 07:51 PM

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Side Note, TNB Allo Really need to do something about their marketing.

Today I was driving along the main road from Taman Ampang to Taman Cempaka.
Within the span of 2KM I saw total of 4 (yes, 4) TM booth for Unifi Registration. blink.gif
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post Jan 15 2021, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Jan 15 2021, 01:56 PM)
All the RSPs or partner ISPs which are on TM HSBB are not too happy with them currently because of their high wholesale reference pricing and inferior older network which could only support beyond asymmetrical 800Mbps speeds with uploads only upto 200Mbps. They dare not commit higher speeds because of their network may not support them and customers will return complaining.

Take ViewQwest for instance, if you're on their network or Allo they sell symmetrical 100M/500M and 1Gbps plans at much cheaper rates than TM. Their symmetrical 100M plan is priced even below RM100/mth which is so much more affordable.

If you still insist on subscribing to them on TM HSBB, they have no choice but to offer you an entire different set of plans which is more expensive pricing and slower speeds that cannot exceed 800Mbps. Reason is because they'd have to follow TM's wholesale port pricing structure and reference limitations of their own Unifi plans.
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Actually what is the reason why TM cap their HSBB network at 800/200 and Allo can do Symmetrical Up and Down Speed?
From the outside I don't think there's much differences on the equipment that they are using.

Is that related to their GPON Optical Splitter Configuration Or perhaps it's just a simple configuration being done at Core/Edge Router?
If so what will it take for TM to achieve Symmetrical Up/Down Speed for Competition purposes?
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post Jan 22 2021, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(yongtjunkit @ Jan 22 2021, 07:37 AM)
hmm.gif gunung rapat already covered by TNB fiber ? Seems close by to Taman Lapangan Permai
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Some FDC and Cable ground works have been setup in Gunung Rapat Area, They just haven't listed publicly as the upcoming coverage area.

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