During mco time I hear chair dragging sound in middle of night
Every time I call the guard to sound this fella. this fella will drag one more time then stop
But recently this fella getting more malicious
Drag chair late at night 1 am
I confronted the fella but the wife denied say they never drag any chair
Then got new sound they purposely drop something very heavy on the floor
I really marah I take big stick and hit the Ceiling
I am thinking of buying a basketball and hit the ceiling too

But in mean times what can I do ?
I lodge report with maintenance office
But they sort of deaf ear now
Should I be more aggressive ?
Would this provoke the upstairs to drag chair even more ?
I have some chair felt gliders bought from ace hardware
Thinking of passing to MO to pass to this fella
But they not 100% stop chair drag noise

probably have to move out. ignore them until u get used to it, or they dont do it.

or confront everyone, say is there something wrong? no one do it, then is ghost?

Not much you can do. This is what living in a condo is like.

Wait till you have bathroom leaks coming from upstairs. You will have to beg them to quickly fix the problem. Some cases, if cannot tahan, you need to pay for the repairs.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/208...airs-neighbours


here you gooooooo

OMG i have the same problem with you ..
the aunty up stair dont sleep at night one ..
10pm till 3am 4am still drag chair, knock knock drill drill installing furniture ...
my baby been wake up by the sound many times already ..
already complaint to management and security guard and follow them to visit the unit then sound stop and tell is not her (with innocent face somemore) ..

really feel want punch her face one ..
management advice, the unit still doing so then they will proceed report to police..

i really thinking of buy this thing one ...
when search at taobao, the item like not longer selling already ..

This post has been edited by djboycalvin: May 28 2020, 09:42 AM

Constantly knock on the master bedroom ceiling at 2am every night till they come confront you, then you tell them no, you didn't do it.
Repeat it till they understand how irritating it is.
Make sure you record the noise they make, cause they might record yours.

maybe something paranormal living there. very difficult to find out, but might be true because you said you confronted the wife, the wife claim not dragging the chair.

I know it might not make sense, but have heard of this type of stories before.

please dont be angry with me, just sharing because one of my friends unit have sound at night, at first thought piping contraction sound, but after checking, found got some dirty things disturbing. not easy to get rid of it so they moved out within short period. landlord accepted and did not forefeit his rental deposit, he believe most likely the landlord knows and just accepted.

in a high rise like your case, the sound in which you think is coming directly from above, may not actually originate from there, or even is the sound you think of.

Expanding materials (infra) within the walls, water moving thru the pipes, etc etc can generate noise. Another unit who has a water pump hard mounted to wall can generate vibration, etc etc.

I once had downstairs neighbor complaint I was dragging furniture across living room... i let him come in & drag each & every furniture he can pickup up to prove there is no such activity or even such furniture which can generate the noise he accused me of. Even condo management told me to not care what he complaint (but I feel to prove a point more useful). No complaints after that, also the hours in which he accused of such activity, physically impossible due to no one in my unit at those hours.

Part n parcel of living in condo/apartment/close quarters.

This post has been edited by Chrix: May 28 2020, 09:53 AM

This is really the main disadvantage of high rise dwellings.

I personally went up that floor and listen and found the asshole dragging the chair

Me also experience the same. It doesnt necessarily come from above. What annoys me is the heavy footsteps. I know my neighbour above walks like a giant fridge eater but what annoys me more is running sounds which sounded like pounding. At first i thought was my neighbour above, after some observations, turns out to be the middle east family 2 floors below. Reason i think is because 3-5am in the morning its very quiet so you hear everything... Damnnn annoying sial...

Again nothing you can do. Can complain but it wont stop. What i read is that you can place carpet on the floor to absorb sounds from below and drape on ceiling to absorb sounds from above. Hope this helps.

build plaster ceiling, it will reduce some noise

I have a baby coming soon too
I am really pissed with this upstairs neighbor
I also feel like punching her face
In fact I feel like barge into her apartment and overturn all her furniture and put her into one of them then roll her out
Or take on her chairs then put on top of her and I sit on t he chair on top of her and drag it while she is a still below it

Yeah I was looking for this thing in ta bao also
If u found it let me know ya

This post has been edited by Pitiuran: May 28 2020, 10:04 AM

It’s actually two sources 2 floors above me and 4 floors above me
After I complain the 2 floors above me become malicious and purposely drag chair at 1230

Buy a bucket of fruits, pay them a visit, talk nicely, make friend.
Then only 'ask for help' from this 'friend' to reduce noise. This way always works pretty effective.

TS so ignorant . some noise are caused by water hammer.. a phenomenon in piping system inside our walls. The noise may sound like dragging chairs and coin /marble dropping .

Wtf.

Wow..and I thought of starting a thread for this.........same problem fro ma neighbor upstairs...I dropped a note to them, they threaten to go to police with my note saying i was trespassing ( was like wtf? ) and the note was nicely written mind you.....assholes walk like elephants...keep dropping things and dunno doing what upstairs and worst part, they don't sleep till 4-5 am.....Neighbors downstairs I know how to deal with by doing what they did to me back to them but upstairs, I can't knock on the ceiling given that I have plaster ceiling installed but there are still part of the ceilings which I can poke but I am not resorting to that yet.

Talked to the fucking management, they asked me to record down as evidence but if you guys know it, it's not gonna be loud through recordings, it's not drilling sound which is obvious, it's all those knocking sound and walking that annoys the hell out of me. And how the hell am i suppose to time when to record.......dumb fuck managements....

that means it's not the person directly above you?

U hit your own ceiling just to show u are angry? Lol.

Btw, how frequent is the chair dragging? 1-2 times per night?

Just set to record audio for the entire day and store it in an external hard drive or on the cloud or something, then isolate the baseline noise level waveform from the chair dragging waveform (at the time when your neighbor is making noise). If you have some audio processing software it should be pretty easy to isolate the time when they're making noise, though idk if management will actually do anything lol

move into unit above them

How is it people still don't know this?

The sound of dragging chair, marble dropping, door slamming, running footsteps, all those aren't what you think they are.

It's the sound of various parts of the building contracting and water pipes.

But talk to a superstitious and they'll say it's 👻

Tat's why landed is better

Or if you want and you have somewhere else you can sleep (preferable) or can sufficiently soundproof your room, set up a CCTV outside your house that sends a feed to your phone, then play music as loudly and obnoxiously as possible while you occupy yourself with other things. Do this for three days to a week, and if they try to bang on your door to get you to stop, use the CCTV footage and send it to the police or to management office.

But before you do that, hope that it's actually your neighbors dragging chairs and not some other thing happening lol.

Aiyo most of the sound coming from utilities install inside the wall. The obvious sound comes from water hammer happening inside the water pipe running up and down. Material expands is also one of the culprits.
Some are echo sounds from the mechanical room.

bukan 4th dimensional beings ka?

Are you annoyed because u can’t sleep or what? Maybe u should play some white noise to mask the sound?

Then how to solve the problem?

TRUE STORY: Happened to me earlier this year.

I live in landed property. Terrace house.

One day my neighbour suddenly approached me and asked why I kept on banging on the wall adjacent to her room every night at around 11pm.

There are 4 rooms in my house and that room is empty.

Everyone is asleep at that hour.

I explained to her that the room is vacant and she was adamant . She kept on insisting that I or one of my family members deliberately banged the wall every night.

My take on this: most probably she has been disturbed my ghosts or something.

I honestly feel sorry for her but I could not do anything.

Chair dragging is obvious so it's okie.....things like...stomping maybe is not that obvious but if you hear it enough ,it gets damn annoying. And dropping of things in the wee hours of the night, not once, not twice but every 5-10 mins, you know when you're about to fall asleep and suddenly something wake you up.....?

Most of all, I am annoyed cause I can't sleep. Can't help it that I am a light sleeper.

Secondly, what kinda human beings run around and make so much noise till 4 am every other night?

Move out I guess. These things are normal when it comes to highrise.

Unless you want to sound-proof your enter house, ceiling, walls, floors etc.

How the heck can you be treaspass when you haven’t entered their unit ? Your upstairs neighbor must be retarded

I never believe in plastering my ceiling, what for ? I knew there be noise upstairs and this shows I don’t own my ceiling

Yeah my MO is just as retarded as yours. They drag like every 2 hours and MO expect me to sit there in middle of the night holding on to my hand phone recording
Even then my phone got storage limitation
The guard and MO are stupid dumb fack

I managed to record but I have issue to paste on gmail and send it out even have issue to compress the giant file. As you said lah after recording also sounded very soft.

When was it ?
Before raya ?
Well I hint to you
Probably cooking before day time come

Try take 1mg melatonin
Don’t take those slow release ones
Or more than 1 mg else you feel drowsy
And expose urself to car accident
Or you can cut the pill into half

Toilet sound
When they are brushing teeth and use ceramic cup put on your toilet granite tiles
Yeah I hate those sounds too

Ppl who say dropping things sound is water pipe movement must be taking weed because they never live in condo before

I know a water pipe sound banging when I hear one

This post has been edited by Pitiuran: May 28 2020, 11:16 AM

Perhaps you could invest in some ear plugs to drown out the loud sounds in the meantime while you figure out a more permanent solution? Can buy from Lazada.

Then when my phone alarm ring how am I gonna hear ?
I need to wake up go to work
And my baby’s cry how I know ?

Maybe try soundproofing your bedroom walls and ceilings.

https://aquietrefuge.com/soundproof-wall-between-apartments/

Egg cartons can be used for DIY soundproofing projects too.

Haha. Kids mostly. The middle east family below me kids dont sleep after 12am. Running and screaming until 5am...tell me how to sleep la... Its definitely not pipes. This happen during puasa month. Now macam dont have already

highrise negative is like that

landed also same problem

That is the problem when staying in a condo, my upstairs, I don’t is upstairs or above, slamming the door at 1am, furniture dragging at the earlier morning, heavy footsteps sounds. One way I do is totally ignores the sounds, if you put all the attention to those sounds, you will hear the sounds every time,Because you are concentrating on its. If you cannot do that, you should move out, but if you still want to looking for condo, you cannot avoid that problem.

TS is a very patient guy. If those shitholes faces with tougher guys, they will be miserable to remain there for another day.

I don't wanna take any melatonin as I heard one can be dependent on it. Anyhow, I have to wake up at 7 am for meetings so I don't think I wanna wake up with a drowsy state. lol.

But if really need, I guess I would have to in time. I don't mind so much on the weekdays but when it comes to weekend, I really want to sleep in but they just can't stop....

I don't know how I can be trespassing by pasting a note on his gate. he told the management that he felt threatened by me and will go to the police the next time. I told the management to remember to call me when that happens so I can fetch him to make the report.

I have this app that can record when there are sounds but for those one off sounds, you know the phone won't be able to react fast enough to capture anything. I tried to record a video when they had this motor ( which sounds like a pump ) turned on, it could hardly capture it but when the house is quiet in the wee hours of the night or 8am ish in the morning, it is very prominent. I'll try to see if i can do what the other forum member suggested; to filter and amplify.

How come this thread open at today, I thought I read this thread few days ago.

You know what i mean......Like in the middle of the night, imagine things like your belt drop and the buckle goes on the floor first.......or easiest, marbles.....just drop a marble......or a pen or keys.......not once in a night....every 5-15 mins once......

Yeah, during puasa month, they did not sleep till 6-7am everyday, it was hell on earth literally. Now I heard they wanna buy the unit upstairs and the wife is expecting, I am trying to make them change their minds else it'll be the end of me.

Basketball great idea too, throw on ceiling while baring2. Please give a try and post feedback here. If still didnt work then your upstairs neighbor really mcb one.

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Can hear drilling, furniture dragging on top floor. But can't do anything because nobody live on units on top of mine.

Top floor not HOT meh ?

Yeah in terrace next door neighbor can definitely hear

Unless bungalow

So in conclusion and seriousness maybe ts need to consider bungalow

Thats why never buy condo no matter how they advertise or market it. U are practically giving up ur sanity.
Landed property is the best.

Landed does not have the same problem. There is nobody above you or below you.

If your neighbour is shouting and screaming in a terrace house you will be able to hear but normal conversations, no.

I live in both landed and condo......

Problem with landed and condo are different when it comes to noise. Landed do have their own problems with noise. It doesn't come from above but it comes in the form out outside or just plainly neighbors playing music loud. It's not as bad as condo and in the grand scheme of things, I would say it's only 20% of what people staying in condo suffers.

Base on the suggestion from a member within here, I've got a recording through "smart recorder" and have captured ONE of the noise cases on my phone. It was surprisingly clear and loud at 2.15ish am and lucky the phone was able to capture it. Does anyone know how to enhance and filter it? I would want to use this as one of the evidence for the management to approach them.

You can either take a baseline waveform (meaning record your room at a time when these people are silent, say at perhaps 10am, so that you can compare it to the scenario where these people are being noisy) and then measure the distance from the peak of your noise case waveform to the baseline and use that as justification, or if you can measure the volume in db for both then you can argue about how there is elevated and sustained noise coming from this apartment.

The thing is, if you just use one noise case, your neighbors can maybe shoot back and say that you are being unreasonable and that it was a one time occurrence, so I recommend getting at least three or four across a few days if you can and listing the corresponding timestamps in your complaint to management.

If you wanna edit audio you can probably just do so within your app if it has audio editing capabilities, and if you wanna do something more fancy (I'm guessing you don't use Ableton or Logic Pro X though) you can try to use this Android app or the equivalent on iPhone, though if you do significantly edit the sound you should apply the same transformation(s) to your baseline waveform and document them so that the other party cannot say oh this person made the noise seem louder than it actually was.

This post has been edited by Exoflare: May 29 2020, 09:07 AM

Thanks for the feedback. I am planning to do multiple days to record the other noises but the fact that he's running a motor/pump upstairs and it's on every now and then ( not fixed timing )is disturbing to us given that we are working from home now. I actually had the guard come into my house and sit for an hour but so happen that night he was relatively quiet so we did not get much but noise usually comes later so I did not hold the guard longer than the 1 hour he was already in my house. If they can dedicate an audience from 11pm to 2am daily for a week, I am sure they will capture all my pain points.

Np. I mean, the lowest cost option for you seems to be to just record your house during the hours that you described. 21 hours of audio is about 10ish GB uncompressed and about 4-5GB compressed if you don't use a super high end mic so unless you're really raring for space and it is really impossible, go ahead and record.

Another option is to pay management to pop up at your apartment. Negotiate with a security guard? Negotiate with management? Your call. In practice, it's not likely that someone will sit in your apartment for 21 hours for free and if they have other responsibilities it's also not likely that management will approve unless there's a prospective financial advantage involved. In practice, I think someone working as a security guard would be quite happy if you paid them say 20 ringgit per hour to sit down and do nothing while you offer them tea or something and then continue with your work and occasionally nod at them and say "SEE HOW I AM SUFFERING?". It's a good deal, win-win, and if it doesn't work after two or three days then just call it off.

On the other hand, your neighbor may see the guard and be silent for a week and then start up again or something, but if they do then just think of what you're paying as the price for silence.

This post has been edited by Exoflare: May 29 2020, 09:44 AM

Thanks for the advice. As of now, I am just using the phone mic as I don't think I should need any professional devices to really capture the problem, if I do, it might not be a problem for many. .......the phone records whenever it detects an elevated level in noise hence it's not always recording but it does record some static now and then which can be used for baseline ( if you're interested, I can WA you what I recorded last night )

I don't need them to be in my house during the day. Although there are noises during the day but I am not inconsiderate like that. I am okie with noise during the day as I might be guilty for some as well ( my GF walks like an elephant at times and sometimes when I lift the chair and put it on the floor, there will be some sound but keyword is lift and not drag ). I don't mind offering them some money for 3 hours a night for a week but then again I am paying Rm400 for maintenance already so shouldn't that be something they would need to help me if there are complaints?

There's no way the neighbor can see the guard cause he's upstairs though I have a sneaking suspicion that someone does let the neighbor know if I ask the guard in charge come to my unit; then again, it's just my suspicion and hold no basis so I won't ride on that for now.

This post has been edited by pillage2001: May 29 2020, 09:47 AM

Not a problem! I'll pass on the WhatsApp thanks, but let us know how it goes! 👌

May be better to record duration of audio that you described (3 hours) to defend against the selection bias argument (This downstairs neighbor just went and recorded us at specific times when we were making noise and is trying to persecute us!!! type of thing)

My wife will kill me
She says will be very ugly

Usually condo have plaster ceiling. If you knock on it they won't hear it at all. worse still, you may punch a hole in the ceiling which you have to fix. It happened to me :X

If upstairs how?
You prop up a guard there
Chances are the neighbors on that floor will complain their privacy is affected
And would you let a complete stranger sit in ur living room ? While you sleep
I suppose he is single
But for Married person your wife would surely oppose to security guard see her in pyjamas

I tried
In morning wife and kid nag at me for disturbing Their sleep

Yeah I saw that thread
It was from another guy with footstep problem
Mine is more from dropping item and drag furniture

Not as bad
Condo you got noise coming from all sides up down left right heck even diagonal left and right

Sound from above is the most trickiest to detect
You can blame the floor above you
But in actual fact it came from 5 floors above you
I had to take the stair case see who is above me
Some units are empty
Then 5 floors I hear chair dragging
Bingo

Not rly prop up a guard outside. Pillage has a problem I think with the ambient noise in his room/home office?

So in practice it would be like ok, pay you to come in and sit in my house for about three hours (probably not while you sleep - Pillage said 11am-2pm? Unless he meant 11pm-2am, then that's a different story lol he will have to be awake with the guard together for that duration of time) and maybe provide makan. Then you work in the same room as the guard, which makes sense because otherwise how would you know whether he is doing his job to pay attention to the noise, lol.

If it's 11am-2pm, that's an ok time to have someone in your house I think, but then of course most of us are concerned about pandemic and having people pop into our houses so some people may dial back but mileage may vary.

Can't really claim violation of privacy if you can hear the noise in the apartment and you can say your neighbors are violating your privacy for intruding on your having a guard come for tea, lol.

This post has been edited by Exoflare: May 29 2020, 10:27 AM

What do you expect the security guard to do when the noise starts? Is he going to be able to force the neighbour to quieten down? Even police can't do much and I don't think the neighbour will be intimidated by a lowly paid security guard with no enforcement power.

I think they should have a curfew for people not to keep awake between 12 midnight to 7 am. Ban people who work in graveyard shifts from staying in middle class condo. Haha if only this can happen.

ops. forgot serious kopitiam.

This post has been edited by KHunterz: May 29 2020, 10:41 AM

But can you trust the guard not to steal anything ?
While y r asleep
Also security co And MO may not agree
Resident committee also may oppose to the proposal
For the reason they don’t want to be sued
If anything untoward happens
I would feel very uncomfortable having a complete stranger sit in my living room while I am asleep

I can tell you
For sure
When a security guard come knocking at ur door
Or ring ur intercom
Telling u to stop the sound
It can feel very uncomfortable
Then next day MO call you in response to a complain
If they keep doing it
You would feel some frustration

No biggy, I'll check on the feasibility of recording for 3 hours which means I have to be out of the house during the MCO time which can be challenging as I don't know where to go. lol.

I'll let you know how things go. I am planning to ask for an audience with the JMB to check with them on how we can sort this out. Upstairs is just a rental tenant for now and not an owner so not sure if it makes things easier.

Definitely easier if it’s a tenant
They may move out after their contract expire
But owner is another different ballgame altogether

But you have to make sure if it’s really from that tenant
I can bet you
Sound can come up to 5 floors above you

You don’t have to on your mic the whole night
Sometimes there is a consistent pattern
If they make noise at 4 am
Then chances are it could repeat again
Unless it’s a tit for tat revenge

This post has been edited by Pitiuran: May 29 2020, 10:47 AM

Same problem I'm having. Kids running around, heavy furniture dragging, door slamming etc.

The problem is the upstairs neighbour is Iraqi who can't speak a lick of english. Impossible to communicate with them. Complain to MO, and they will just call the owner, who will just inform the agent, that's it.

I'm just waiting day by day for them to move out.

This post has been edited by archinkent: May 29 2020, 11:06 AM

Haha not force the neighbor to quieten down. I'd just say write a report as a piece of (slightly more expensive) eyewitness or rather earwitness evidence in this case lmao.

Well not while you're asleep, which is why I said (if you could read what I wrote carefully) that if the hours are 11pmish, then pillage needs to be there lol.


Lol sure.

Then forward complain to owner
Let owner handle

Staying here for 6 years, I roughly know where the sound can come from. I've been wrong before and from the mistake, I learn to correlate sounds better each time after a failed assumption. Problem with this neighbor started from day one when they moved in. They were unpacking and stuffs till like 2-3 am where I had to call the guard to stop them. Then it was puasa month where they stayed awake most nights. Nothing wrong with that but one would have to be more careful at night if that's the case. You can't just pretend that it's the day time and go about your business.

There's no consistent pattern but normally, they are move active the later it gets. Like now, there's no sound, nothing zip...I am sure they are still asleep given the time they spend staying awake..I can do a tit for tat and put an alarm in the room( those type that physically rings a bell and pulse it every 10 minutes ) or just a hammer against the wall or use a broom stick to poke the ceiling but I am not doing it.

I would love to stay up and run all sorts of experiments to get the sounds recorded but I have to be awake at 7 or 8 am for work daily and this is really impacting my focus at work as I can't get enough sleep to last the day.

The egg cartons can be the intermediate layer, you can still do something to cover the cartons completely. If you want nicer look, get professional help, at a cost of course.

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I believe that we are all civilized people and resorting to unconventional ways would be the lsat resort. To his credit, after I left the note on his door, he has toned down a little so I would give him the benefit of a doubt that he isn't aware of the distress caused to me still. Just that since he threatened to report me to police, I did not want to interact with him directly and go through the management. Management is telling me to record all the incidents but I can't keep having the phone on my hand to record and how am I to record incidents where things fall and what not which requires split second timing, hence, I want to solve it by talking it out.

if my gf is not staying with me, I have everything to retaliate. I am okie sleeping little, I am more than okie to rent somewhere else to stay for the month as I torture him as well with what I have in mind but I am not going to do that......yet........

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It's sad but I do think they are people whom I can talk to so I'll still try before going the extreme. As others had mentioned in other threads, it's hard to sell now and I need to get rid of my place for 1m and above to not lose money so it'll be kinda hard.

I'll see how much more evidence I can get and if the management is gonna respond to me.

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Hope so.....Don't know how much I can take. Been having headaches and migraines almost daily. Even weekend I can't sleep in now.

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Guess I'm alot like you. I go to bed with anxiety now....thinking when are they going to drop things or walk around or slam the door.......haven't been having quality sleep for a while now.

Will look into the ear plugs you recommended. only worry is that I can't hear my alarm for the morning. lol

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This post has been edited by geekystef: Nov 21 2020, 02:33 AM

I have a fitbit. I'll try to see if the vibration is sufficient to wake me up.

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/drift-to...uB5V05&search=1

These are the plugs right?

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