Here comes a competitor, if they price it right

https://www.lowyat.net/2020/216155/realme-x...ia-launch-date/

Edit: Err, forget that. The price is out...



This post has been edited by attw: Jul 1 2020, 07:33 PM

Relax la bro, I will share the info as soon as I get it, hahaha... I saw this in a direct mailer from Lazada, not sure if they accidentally revealed it since the phone also hasn’t been launched officially.

I like my Realme 6 and how much lighter and more polished the Realme UI is over MIUI, but I’d still pick OxygenOS in a heart beat.

Yeah, if the Poco F2 Pro can have 5G and SD865 for RM2000, I wouldn’t pay 3k for a Realme. For all the crap I give Samsung for their Exynos chip, the Note 10+ or even S20+ would be a better buy at the sub RM3k price range.

Don't get your hopes up bro

Hahaha, yeah bro.Looks like I'll be holding on to my Poco for now

Performance - I honestly can't tell the difference between SD855 and SD865, what more SD855+. And don't say "But got 5G..."

Screen - After spending some time with the Realme 6 (90hz LCD) and the Poco F2 Pro (60hz AMOLED), I'd say the latter is a better choice.

Software - I prefer Realme UI over MIUI.

Battery - Poco F2 Pro will probably take it given its bigger capacity and lower refresh rate screen.

Camera - Probably equal? I don't think much of mid-range cameras anyway.

I think the jump in price is too high for the 8/256 one. Add a few hundreds more can get the OP8 already which will be better

Normal OP 8 also has the screen tint issue? Thought only the 8 Pro. The single Poco F2 Pro speaker is kinda loud, this I agree

Yeah, the first Realme I tried, Realme 5 on ColorOS 6 was not a good experience, but they took great strides forward with Realme UI, still with bloatware but decidedly more tolerable. MIUI is rich with features but I do wish they cut down a bit on the ads and allow users to remove the stuffs we don't need without rooting.

Ya, I'm more of a "plug and play" guy which is why I appreciate Apple and stock Android devices a bit more The ads are mostly just irritants, they appear especially when you run a stock app like cleaner, downloads or even file manager. Also, there's easily 10 or more stock apps that I don't use and wish there was a straightforward way to remove those, hahaha...

MY set? If so, yes!

SD865+ already announced

If you're in Klang area, can try the basement of Klang Parade. This guy's store is located there...

https://www.lelong.com.my/store/CKYstore

Haha, yeah, I thought as much.

Why not just buy online and apply it by yourself bro? Flat screen is easier and not too complicated

Ya, if one fail, just apply the next one

I bought a Nillkin one, got it right the first time

In terms of speed and performance, there's probably very little between the SD865 and SD855+ or even the SD855. And there really is no point paying extra for 5G now.

Yeah, if the X3 had an AMOLED screen then that would probably be a better deal

I think RM50 and below for a curved screen tempered glass is alright including installation, but for a flat screen one like the Poco F2 Pro is probably too much. Maybe half of that would be more acceptable? I bought my Nillkin tempered glass for about RM15 minus delivery. It wasn't exactly a perfect fit though, a bit smaller but I didn't mind since it didn't get in the way of the case

And 5G, if that is important for some people

They were supposed to roll out VoLTE this year but I guess the Covid-19 issue threw them off track. Anyways, yeah, it’s a bit shameful that such a big telco hasn’t rolled it out yet

Realme’s new Realme UI is more minimalistic and less bloated than MIUI, but previously when I had the Realme 5, it was equally as painful on ColorOS 6

Anyways, UI is a matter of personal preference, some people will swear by MIUI still, and that’s well within their rights. But yeah, I prefer Realme UI too, which was one of the reasons I sold my Poco F2 Pro and “downgraded” back to my Realme 6.
I have the MY set and it still had ads in all its stock MIUI apps like Cleaner, Themes, File Manager, etc. It’s manageable compared to previous years, but it’s still there.

This post has been edited by attw: Jul 16 2020, 09:29 AM

Hahaha, not yet, still can't get at 3k or below

Eyeing the OP Nord (if it is below RM2k) or if Samsung throws a curve ball and gives us SD for the Note 20

Will share some thoughts on the phone over the coming weekend or so. It's not a bad phone by any means, but more of my personal preference to return to my Realme 6.

So I sold off my Poco F2 Pro (6GB+128GB) last week after just about over a month of using it. Prior to that I was using the Realme 6 (4GB+128GB variant) and my usual practice is to sell off my previous phone once I've settled in comfortably to my new phone. Instead, I decided to sell off the F2 Pro and return to the Realme 6 - a downgrade, somewhat, and so I'll explain.

First and foremost, lets start with what I liked about the F2 Pro: -

- For RM1,999 the phone is definitely value for money, particularly seeing it is a 5G-capable phone (not that you can enjoy that now though) with a SD865 chipset. Built quality is solid and the phone feels really good in the hand, with very even weight distribution.
- The AMOLED screen is also excellent as you'd expect it to be, even though it's only a standard 60hz refresh rate. I've pitted it side-by-side with my Realme 6 running on 90hz but on a LCD display, and I found scrolling on the F2 Pro to be not less smoother than the Realme 6, and when it came to media consumption, there's no competition. I'd pick the 60hz AMOLED over the 90hz LCD any day of the week. The other plus point is there are no punch holes or notches, so you get a full screen experience which is great!
- Speaking of media consumption, the F2 Pro only has a single-firing bottom speaker, which isn't ideal, but to its credit, it is sufficiently loud and the output isn't too bad, but of course you can't expect flagship grade sound quality like you'd get from the iPhones or the flagship Samsungs. Oh - and a 3.5mm headphone jack! That's priceless these days!
- Battery life is good, largely due to a very sizeable 4700mAh battery. Based on my usage (no games), 2-day battery life with 10 hours total SOT is definitely achievable. However, there are some caveats, and I'll touch on that on the things I didn't like about the phone.
- Charging speed is pretty quick with the generous 33W adapter and cable. I don't particularly track charging speed but from one observation, it hit 60% in just about 30 minutes or so from less than 10% battery remaining.
- Photo output is really good and colours are punchy in good lighting. The macro camera really produces some nice shots. Didn't get to upload the photos here coz the file sizes are really humongous, but there are plenty of sample shots taken by way better photographers than myself on other websites so I guess you guys can just look them up. Indoor and night shots are not great but more than usable.

So, why didn't I keep the F2 Pro and returned to the Realme 6 instead? Coz the things I didn't like kinda outweighed the above

What I didn't like: -

- The optical fingerprint reader was inconsistent for me. Sometimes it would work and sometimes it wouldn't. Sometimes it'd recognise my right thumb and not my left, and other times it would recognise the left and not the right. I unregistered and reregistered my fingerprints a few times, but the inconsistency remained. Did not do a reset to see if it would solve the issue though so am not sure if that would have helped. When the FP reader does work, it's also not comparable in speed compared to other in-display FP readers I have tried. Anyways, it could be just a one off, but I'm just describing my experience with it. Mileage may vary with other users.
- The pop-up selfie camera, while it's cool and has nice LED lights which you can customise, has this one behaviour that concerns me - it pops up automatically when you receive a WhatsApp video call. Even when the phone is in your pocket! It's not a big problem and I guess Xiaomi can easily fix this with a software update - which leads me to the next thing I don't quite like....
- Software updates are few and far between. My last security update was March and as a comparison, my Realme 6 is on June update. Xiaomi does update its individual stock apps periodically, but not the overall MIUI software, which probably is no big deal for lots of people, but that just bugs me
- The overall MIUI experience on the Poco launcher is OK, but not great. Again, software and UI skin is subject to personal preference so I won't dwell too much on it. There are still ads planted in stock apps like Cleaner, File Manager, etc. but they can be disregarded as minor annoyances and nothing more. For me, Realme UI was just more fluid and minimalistic and while I don't mind using MIUI (after all I used a Redmi Note 7 for a year), I didn't enjoy it as much.
- I can't quite place my finger on it, but the standby battery drain is inconsistent and unlike any of my previous SD8-series phones (HTC U11, OP7 Pro and S10 Lite). The overnight battery drain ranges from 3%-5%, which is acceptable but seems not as good as the phones I mentioned above, all of which have smaller batteries. In fact, the standby battery drain is not even as good as the Realme 6, which also has a smaller battery.
- And this is probably the main reason I returned to my Realme 6 rather than sticking it out with the Poco F2 Pro before trying another phone: the signal strength of the phone in my office is rather poor. Granted, my room in the office has inconsistent signal strength from my chosen telco service provider, but it seems to be better and more consistent on my Realme 6. Also, my Realme 6 has the stronger and more accurate GPS signal. I won't be quick to blame either the SD865 or MIUI just yet as this was only an occurrence on one phone so I can't be certain. I'm certain of one thing though, Mediatek has improved by leaps and bounds - the GT90 on the Realme 6 has been exceeding my expectations on every level.

In conclusion, the F2 Pro remains the cheapest SD865 phone in Malaysia at the moment and it certainly isn't a bad buy by any means - especially if you're used to MIUI or if you're a fan - then it's a no brainer.