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T231H
post Jun 17 2020, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(cloudy_eye @ Jun 17 2020, 10:06 AM)
memang emergency fund, but not for me, for my family if i mati katak.

rather than wait for my wasiat which might cause dispute later among siblings. also to give my family also no need to hire a lawyer. sometimes wasiat process can take superduper long.

for my own use of emergency fund i put in bank la senang nak keluarkan.
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thumbsup.gif just remember to let them know of your money in the trust fund....

also, do update us on the status of your money in Sept, (upon maturity)....will you?? notworthy.gif
like example, how long it takes to get the money back, any other charges incured and the total returns for this 2 yrs tenure trust fund deposits. notworthy.gif
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post Jun 17 2020, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jun 17 2020, 10:10 AM)
thumbsup.gif just remember to let them know of your money in the trust fund....

also, do update us on the status of your money in Sept, (upon maturity)....will you??  notworthy.gif
like example, how long it takes to get the money back, any other charges incured and the total returns for this 2 yrs tenure trust fund deposits.  notworthy.gif
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sure will, ill get it updated in sept. once i receive my money back haha
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post Jul 11 2020, 08:01 PM

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How does one apply for this. Online or need to go to BIMB?

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post Aug 3 2020, 11:27 AM

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I was engaged by UBB as well.

Can’t really say I would invest into it as there is no factsheet to proof how this 6.5% is given especially with a high initial charge 4.5%.

Take it at your own risk.
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post Aug 3 2020, 11:35 AM

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just a note:
no response after emailing 2 times since 2 month ago there is no response from DCS private trust about this guaranteed returns and annual fees questions....
guess they does not want to go public with it.....
guess have to go thru what the agent tells you and read the agreement/contract fine print after signing up.
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post Aug 3 2020, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(HJK_93 @ Aug 3 2020, 12:40 PM)
Hi, thank you for your interest and enquiry.

1) How much guaranteed returns per annum for this one?
- This is a government bond investment, and no company regulated by BNM can give you a “guaranteed” return for this investment. However, based on the track record, investors had been honoured with returns averaging from 5% and above. Government bond investment is not as volatile as stock market so I cannot tell you the returns are “guaranteed” but it is stable and had shown that it’s going the right direction.

2) How much annual fees for this one?
- There is no annual fee for this investment. The only charge applied is a one time 3.75% for administration and commission charges. There is absolutely no other hidden fee, ..............
3) Is there sales charges for this one?
- As mentioned above, other than the one time 3.75% charges, there is absolutely no other charges. You will also get extra tax exemption of up to RM 1000 yearly.

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thanks for providing the above inputs... notworthy.gif
thus SC of 3.75% is about 0.75% pa over 5 yrs....(3.75/5=0.75)

5% pa - 0.75% = 4.25% pa of possible returns

btw, what is the extra tax exemption of RM1000 yearly from/for/how?

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post Aug 3 2020, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 3 2020, 12:50 PM)
thanks for providing the above inputs... notworthy.gif
thus SC of 3.75% is about 0.75% pa over 5 yrs....(3.75/5=0.75)

5% pa - 0.75% = 4.25% pa of possible returns

btw, what is the extra tax exemption of RM1000 yearly from/for/how?
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You’re most welcome. The tax exemption is for you or anyone that is still paying income tax yearly. It works just like life insurance product, because you’re actually getting a product licensed by insurance company. And PIDM protection for investment is up to RM 500k, whereas life insurance product only up to RM 250k.

Note: The 5% is only a projected return, because I’m not here to convince you or anyone that this is the best investment, we have honoured higher return but it’s always depending on the performance of the market. In this case, our government bond had shown really strong ability in competing, because of the fantastic job they did to contain the pandemic. I, myself is a very conservative investor, and I take every investors’ money very seriously because it’s all our blood and sweat money. 💪
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QUOTE(HJK_93 @ Aug 3 2020, 01:26 PM)
You’re most welcome. The tax exemption is for you or anyone that is still paying income tax yearly. It works just like life insurance product, because you’re actually getting a product licensed by insurance company. And PIDM protection for investment is up to RM 500k, whereas life insurance product only up to RM 250k.

Note: The 5% is only a projected return, because I’m not here to convince you or anyone that this is the best investment, we have honoured higher return but it’s always depending on the performance of the market. In this case, our government bond had shown really strong ability in competing, because of the fantastic job they did to contain the pandemic. I, myself is a very conservative investor, and I take every investors’ money very seriously because it’s all our blood and sweat money. 💪
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thanks for clarifying again. notworthy.gif

wish to hear from you again,
btw, i think you have reached your daily posts of 3 (for new forummer that is under probation)
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post Aug 13 2020, 09:47 PM

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is just on projected return no guaranteed return. so are different terms over here.
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post Sep 25 2020, 04:09 PM

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I bought the cash trust 2 years ago and already had my return 7% for both years. This year they are giving 6% according to my agent as the worldwide economy had fallen. I would say pretty good compared with the FD interest rate at 1.5-1.8%

The annual fee can ignore as the return they give you is already net of all fees.

So far the trust deed there already mentioned a minimum 6-8% return. I feel its pretty safe la. I had bought another education trust from them as well and renewed mine, also around 7% return annually.

If anyone interested to know more, can PM me. I can recommend my service agent as he is pretty good.
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post Sep 25 2020, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(jonathanchee315 @ Sep 25 2020, 04:09 PM)
I bought the cash trust 2 years ago and already had my return 7% for both years. This year they are giving 6% according to my agent as the worldwide economy had fallen. I would say pretty good compared with the FD interest rate at 1.5-1.8%

The annual fee can ignore as the return they give you is already net of all fees.

So far the trust deed there already mentioned a minimum 6-8% return. I feel its pretty safe la. I had bought another education trust from them as well and renewed mine, also around 7% return annually.

If anyone interested to know more, can PM me. I can recommend my service agent as he is pretty good.
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thumbup.gif wow good for you....
you mentioned that the returns is net of annual fees ....how many % is the annual fees?
how long is your UBB cash trust contracted terms of deposit duration?



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post Sep 25 2020, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Sep 25 2020, 04:25 PM)
thumbup.gif wow good for you....
you mentioned that the returns is net of annual fees ....how many % is the annual fees?
how long is your UBB cash trust contracted terms of deposit duration?
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Yeah , it is governed by trust act which are under Bank negara malaysia . Inside the trust deed there got mention about what kind of things or fund they can invest in which are needed to approve by MOF or BNM.

annual fee if not wrong is 3.5% , but my agent tell you can ignore that as the return you get is net of all fees meaning the 6-8% return they write inside the trust deed is already minus of the management fee or annual fee they call it.

for the cash trust is 36 months which is 3 years. Going matured in October next month, which I intend to renew cause now the FD so low, can just treat this trust fund as an FD.

My previous one education trust also from same agent and UBB already matured and got all my 3 years return and capital. But after that I put in again cause the dissapointing FD rate. Should have just renew then can save some admin cost and stamp duty fee haha.



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QUOTE(jonathanchee315 @ Sep 25 2020, 04:30 PM)
Yeah , it is governed by trust act which are under Bank negara malaysia . Inside the trust deed there got mention about what kind of things or fund they can invest in which are needed to approve by MOF or BNM.

annual fee if not wrong is 3.5% , but my agent tell you can ignore that as the return you get is net of all fees meaning the 6-8% return they write inside the trust deed is already minus of the management fee or annual fee they call it.

for the cash trust is 36 months which is 3 years. Going matured in October next month, which I intend to renew cause now the FD so low, can just treat this trust fund as an FD.

My previous one education trust also from same agent and UBB already matured and got all my 3 years return and capital. But after that I put in again cause the dissapointing FD rate. Should have just renew then can save some admin cost and stamp duty fee haha.
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thumbsup.gif NEVER go back to FD in the near future....
7%pa nett....when will FD go to 7% rate again...
good for you.

get your parents to withdraw their KWSP and put inside there?
even KWSP will be lower than 7% nett pa for the near future....


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post Sep 26 2020, 11:30 AM

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This UBB trust fund is stable? Banks have PIDM. What about this?
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post Sep 27 2020, 06:34 AM

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QUOTE(CoronaV @ Sep 26 2020, 11:30 AM)
This UBB trust fund is stable? Banks have PIDM. What about this?
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PIDM only guarantee for FD at max rm250k max for FD

So the rest still need to invest doh.gif
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post Sep 27 2020, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Sep 27 2020, 06:34 AM)
PIDM only guarantee for FD at max rm250k max for FD

So the rest still need to invest  doh.gif
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Was mentioned in fd tread...
Go for both Islamic and conventional one of the same bank if can... Then the pidm protection will be 250k x 2.
Do that for other banks too... Then the pidm coverage will be alot of millions...
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post Sep 27 2020, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Sep 27 2020, 08:38 AM)
Was mentioned in fd tread...
Go for both Islamic and conventional one of the same bank if can... Then the pidm protection will be 250k x 2.
Do that for other banks too... Then the pidm coverage will be alot of millions...
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Only stupid ppl would do that as it make that person even poorer doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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post Sep 27 2020, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Sep 27 2020, 03:57 PM)
Only stupid ppl would do that as it make that person even poorer  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Why would seeking pidm protection is stupid?
Your earlier post mentioned pidm is for 250k only...
One can increase pidm amount by doing that...
What other way can increase pidm protection amount and not stupid?
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QUOTE(T231H @ Sep 27 2020, 04:15 PM)
Why would seeking pidm protection is stupid?
Your earlier post mentioned pidm is for 250k only...
One can increase pidm amount by doing that...
What other way can increase pidm protection amount and not stupid?
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Basically if you study economics and finance PIDM is for stupid ppl to lose their money through inflation and make banks and insurance richer rclxms.gif

There’s are so many to protect your wealth and yet make money at the same time which you need to learn and read more instead of just asking only rclxms.gif
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post Sep 27 2020, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Sep 27 2020, 04:32 PM)
Basically if you study economics and finance PIDM is for stupid ppl to lose their money through inflation and make banks and insurance richer  rclxms.gif

There’s are so many to protect your wealth and yet make money at the same time which you need to learn and read more instead of just asking only  rclxms.gif
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why do you answer coronaV with that below post?
CoronaV asked about PIDM,...NOT about how to be NOT eaten by inflation....
btw, why 250k and not more?
max 250k in FD will not be stupid and ppl will not lose their money through inflation and make banks and insurance richer?

hmm.gif are ALL those that study economics and finance, always think that those that placed money in bank's FD are stupid?

QUOTE(CoronaV @ Sep 26 2020, 11:30 AM)
This UBB trust fund is stable? Banks have PIDM. What about this?
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Sep 27 2020, 06:34 AM)
PIDM only guarantee for FD at max rm250k max for FD

So the rest still need to invest  doh.gif
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This post has been edited by T231H: Sep 27 2020, 04:45 PM

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