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post May 6 2020, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(curmbox @ May 6 2020, 07:44 AM)
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This what the agent said.. what do you guys think ? legit or not ?
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ask why it is not stated in the website?
will this 6.5% be in the agreement?
whp will be responsible if the 6.5% is not being given?
how to seek justice if this 6.5% is not being given?

btw, how much is theannual feees per year?

( they can gives 20% pa,...but charges you 19% pa annual fees too) ha-ha.
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post May 7 2020, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(curmbox @ May 7 2020, 11:21 AM)
I didn't get a straight answer.

anyways after my due diligence i have decided to not pursue this. I have talked to a few financial advisers who share the same sentiment as alot of you bros here

Thank you for sharing . Please dont pursue this based on my posting.

I need to take down this ss as the agent is someone i know personally and dont want to conflict .
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then would it be better for you to "close" this thread?
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post Aug 3 2020, 11:35 AM

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just a note:
no response after emailing 2 times since 2 month ago there is no response from DCS private trust about this guaranteed returns and annual fees questions....
guess they does not want to go public with it.....
guess have to go thru what the agent tells you and read the agreement/contract fine print after signing up.
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post Sep 25 2020, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(jonathanchee315 @ Sep 25 2020, 04:09 PM)
I bought the cash trust 2 years ago and already had my return 7% for both years. This year they are giving 6% according to my agent as the worldwide economy had fallen. I would say pretty good compared with the FD interest rate at 1.5-1.8%

The annual fee can ignore as the return they give you is already net of all fees.

So far the trust deed there already mentioned a minimum 6-8% return. I feel its pretty safe la. I had bought another education trust from them as well and renewed mine, also around 7% return annually.

If anyone interested to know more, can PM me. I can recommend my service agent as he is pretty good.
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thumbup.gif wow good for you....
you mentioned that the returns is net of annual fees ....how many % is the annual fees?
how long is your UBB cash trust contracted terms of deposit duration?



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post Sep 25 2020, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(jonathanchee315 @ Sep 25 2020, 04:30 PM)
Yeah , it is governed by trust act which are under Bank negara malaysia . Inside the trust deed there got mention about what kind of things or fund they can invest in which are needed to approve by MOF or BNM.

annual fee if not wrong is 3.5% , but my agent tell you can ignore that as the return you get is net of all fees meaning the 6-8% return they write inside the trust deed is already minus of the management fee or annual fee they call it.

for the cash trust is 36 months which is 3 years. Going matured in October next month, which I intend to renew cause now the FD so low, can just treat this trust fund as an FD.

My previous one education trust also from same agent and UBB already matured and got all my 3 years return and capital. But after that I put in again cause the dissapointing FD rate. Should have just renew then can save some admin cost and stamp duty fee haha.
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thumbsup.gif NEVER go back to FD in the near future....
7%pa nett....when will FD go to 7% rate again...
good for you.

get your parents to withdraw their KWSP and put inside there?
even KWSP will be lower than 7% nett pa for the near future....


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post Sep 27 2020, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Sep 27 2020, 04:42 PM)
why do you answer coronaV with that below post?
CoronaV asked about PIDM,...NOT about how to be NOT eaten by inflation....
btw, why 250k and not more?
max 250k in FD will not be stupid and ppl will not lose their money through inflation and make banks and insurance richer?

hmm.gif are ALL those that study economics and finance, always think that those that placed money in bank's FD are stupid?
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post Sep 28 2020, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(jonathanchee315 @ Sep 28 2020, 09:59 AM)
If it is written under the trust deed agreement then it is true. As its governed by the trust act 1949.
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the deed agreement mentioned "Projected" or "Guaranteed"?
the deed agreement got mention that the "returns" will be nett of annual management fees?

if it is not too troublesome,...can you PLEASE share with us the deed agreement ( on the returns and annual management fees things), so as to enable us to delete our fears and doubt ?
Thanks

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post Sep 28 2020, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(jonathanchee315 @ Sep 28 2020, 10:36 AM)
The deed mentioned it need to be invest on authorised investment and fund which give safeguard of the capital and comes with projected return of the percentage. Hence its very much safe that their investment need to give you 2 thing safeguard of your capital and return of the percentage as mentioned.

In my personal opinion la, if need to mentioned guarantee then might as well bank no need to do FD already. At the end of the day, it is still an investment. At least this is safe guarded capital and mentioned investment that which must give a projected return on the percentage mentioned and so far it did hold up to its promises.

The original trust deed is in my safebox though , this is what I could share base on my own personal experience, cashing out once and the current one with 2 years 7% return in my pocket already. If I am right , it is the same as one of the forumer share here already on the picture he snapped. 

The annual management fee is 3.5% per annum , but then it is net of all fees for the annual return we get. So , you shoudnt worried on the management fees though.

I would say the downside of this trust fund is that it lock you up for 2-3 years and the penalty if cashing out early which is 10-8% charges.
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thanks for responding...
wow...
7% + 3.5% annual fees = 10.5% pa (the ubb trust company must make per year on a yearly basis)(excluding the x% for agent that roped in the participant)

hmm.gif ever wonder what kind of things they invested in to be able to sustain that rate of returns of >10.5% pa?
hmm.gif it would be sad if, kwsp or unconstrainted unit trust FMs did not allocate part of their investment into those of UBB.

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post Sep 28 2020, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(jonathanchee315 @ Sep 28 2020, 11:08 AM)
It you refer back to the post https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4801818/+20 shared by T231H, there is mentioned investment licensed by central bank malaysia and equity in licensed company under the governing act or property investment. So maybe they invested in top glove and achieve a record booming return?  biggrin.gif or property market in the past few years? I only know the return I get only bro, and they had been here for the past 30 years , so If any scam or hanky panky stuff should be long flagged BNM concern already, as they giving the trust license?

So I dunno whats your concern la bro haha. Consistenly kenanga or any fund house can generated 10% per annum actually if you notice but thats on the higher risk of investment side. I am not fund manager or what so I just leave it to the professional to do though.
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the UBB investment panel can invest our money (money placed as trust fund) in Equities like those of unit trusts?

even those unit trust that invested fully in Malaysian Equities or 1/2 in Equities and 1/2 in Fixed income (balanced fund) cannot generate 10% annualised returns for a 10 yrs period wor..

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post Sep 28 2020, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(jonathanchee315 @ Sep 28 2020, 04:32 PM)
Seriously bro, I dunno man. As long as I had my returns. Which I already fully matured once and get back my money and current one with 2 time interest return payout already.

At the end of the day, this company had been around 30 years + with trust license issued by BNM.

If you suspicious maybe can go write in to BNM to clarify or investigate them. I just sharing my own experience with them only. I think there is another forumer had good experience with them as well.

Maybe those interested can directly call up my service consultant and ask? Or UBB themselves haha.
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thumbup.gif that is great to know....

yes, thanks for sharing your experience just like the other forummer too.

hopefully the experience you had gained would entice you and your family members to put in more to reap a bigger rewards.
parents taking out EPF to put in there perhaps?

btw, it is not that i don't trust that company, for that company is sure legal...it is the "returns and annual fees" of the product with the word "projected profit sharing" that made me hesitate.
but since you and the other forummer had shared your personal experience of having 7%pa net of fees......i will just keep it on my radar.

This post has been edited by yklooi: Sep 28 2020, 04:44 PM
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post Nov 3 2020, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(cloudy_eye @ Nov 3 2020, 09:46 AM)
Haha, Ok this company had returned back my funds, I place in cash trust on 2017,

I recently renewed another term with them, but for this time the return is only 5-7% (last time was 6-8%)

I think since im not using the monies anytime soon, i just renew and see for another term how their performance,

on my side, i find this trust account is legit la.

only i dont know why people never heard about this company, i also know from the agent that sells me my insurance.

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mind sharing
how much did you put in initially in 2017?
what is the actual total cumulative amount did you take back?

i am sure that this UBB is legal and regulated....
as to why nobody know much about them is, i think they did NOT officially publish the "Net historical rate of returns", only have to depends on the words of mouth of the agents.
As to why they did not officially publish the "Net historical rate of returns",....i guess, only the agents knows


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post Nov 4 2020, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(jonathanchee315 @ Nov 4 2020, 11:02 AM)
Regarding this I can shed some insight as i also quite 38. I had went and speak with one of the management and it is against the rule of BNM to publish the rate and historical return in website or publically. They did show me under the trustee act 1949, it is forbidden to do so. As they are not investment link scheme or unit trust which are categories as financial product.

It is different kind of thing under Trust service.

So I hope this can clear your doubt.
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notworthy.gif thanks for info....

hmm.gif But when "it is against the rule of BNM to publish the rate and historical return in website or publically. They did show me under the trustee act 1949, it is forbidden to do so."........

i was wondering if it is "OK" for their agents to do it publicly inclusive in social medias? confused.gif
will the company deny any responsibilities or accountabilities for the "words/information" spoken/provided/conveyed by the agents publicly inclusive in social media?? hmm.gif

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