wonder if any of u guys here have same opinion as the seller??? say it 95% like new?? i personally vote for NO...

Few days before i posted this phone to TS, I've COD-ed with a few forummers who came to my house, check my item for sale and some even online using my pc. They saw the phone and most of them told me that it's just like new. you can PM gtoforce about this. Also I've just chat with the previous owner who sold this phone to me. He admitted that he dropped the phone on the floor, I sent him the picture taken by you, he DENIED that it's that bad like the picture when he sold it to me. Also until the very last day, I've another forummer who came and toyed around with my phone right before I post it via poslaju to TS. He too was shocked after seeing the picture that you snapped. It wasn't that bad when I got it back from the previous seller (fullbl4de), the condition is just like new (gtoforce) who came to my house few days later to COD with me, and the very last day before i sent it out to you, (elvin87) toyed around with it and he too said that the condition is not like the picture you've shown. Also, a forummer (leeyuleong), came all the way from Cheras to my house to have a look on my set, he only remembered the most obvious thing is the tear and wear on the button after testing and considered about it. He didn't notice any bad cracks on the top.

Well, I don't wanna point my fingers to anybody.

wow, now finding alibi's, i wonder if the ending will be blame on my mistakes??? poor sad for newbie like me..

editted for the above.my mistake,sorryIt's ur writing style hihi.So u are clean.
For Viking,it's expected that the buyer will push the responsibility on the seller and vice versa.You blame him made the scratch and i blame u made the scratch.Common thing.

Expected in online sales.

So more people joining this problem?
i suggest the moderator to check the IP log file in this topic.

It's not more people joining this problem. Blaming each other will not solve this dispute. That's the reason I'm providing facts to support my statements instead of bla-ing nonsense.

It's not more people joining this problem. Blaming each other will not solve this dispute. That's the reason I'm providing facts to support my statements instead of bla-ing nonsense.

ok,from what the statement u wrote,the pda's scratch is not as bad as before u deliver it to the seller.

So it's the seller that made the scratch?

Is that ur statement?If so, you have the responsibility to summon witnesses into here.It's not the seller responsibility for now.

The problem now is " The seller want a refund" and  the buyer say " before i sold to him,it's not that bad or i posted the full picture"

Yes, but he didn't request me to snap more macro photos of the phone.

haha, as i expected, now blame on me, me make the scratch at the hidden parts???? wow i am a pro's, now you are become big liar man..

Viking, I'm being neutral in this case, hope it can be solved as soon as possible and peacefully.
Okay, since we don't know the cracked part is caused by who, so I ignore it for now.

Let me point out back the statement you made above by putting an attachment here.
Please refer to it.

Okay, I'm not flaming whoever here. Please okay, I'm scared.

Viking, I'm being neutral in this case, hope it can be solved as soon as possible and peacefully.
Okay, since we don't know the cracked part is caused by who, so I ignore it for now.

Let me point out back the statement you made above by putting an attachment here.
Please refer to it.

Okay, I'm not flaming whoever here. Please okay, I'm scared.

Viking, I'm being neutral in this case, hope it can be solved as soon as possible and peacefully.
Okay, since we don't know the cracked part is caused by who, so I ignore it for now.

Let me point out back the statement you made above by putting an attachment here.
Please refer to it.

Okay, I'm not flaming whoever here. Please okay, I'm scared.

Viking, I'm being neutral in this case, hope it can be solved as soon as possible and peacefully.
Okay, since we don't know the cracked part is caused by who, so I ignore it for now.

Let me point out back the statement you made above by putting an attachment here.
Please refer to it.

Okay, I'm not flaming whoever here. Please okay, I'm scared.

Great point. What say you now Mr vikingw2k. I think refund is a must to TS to prove that you're a responsible seller and a good Trade Enforcer.

av_rv4 - vikingw2k
bro, i juz back home, confirm wan to buy this pda, can u reserved me till 2morrow???? got prove of ori receipt??? 95% like new so which part is stracth???

so, the seller hv asked the previous owner and the owner confirm said the PDA got dropped before, thanks seller   u make this matter much easier for both side..