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post Aug 10 2007, 08:00 AM

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besides paying this ads
i want us to make complaints to MCMC
filed a class law suit
and consumer tribunal too
we need an opposition party to help us sad.gif
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post Aug 10 2007, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(sharkteef @ Aug 4 2007, 06:27 PM)
redesign malaysia is good. There are many from lowyat forums. Impact alot. accomplishments alot. Knowledge given also alot.
best to see foryourself. head on over to their website. This is lowyat's forum. u wont get much info from here as u get over there. I always believe if you wanna know something bout someone, juz ask that someone instead of going elsewhere to ask.
Its like asking a honda showroom saleperson bout a toyota car.
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You don't get my point. Besides their website(which you are pointing me towards as well) or maybe a few geeks out there who constantly shout on their behalf, I don't see any impact from them. Ask any Internet user on the street and they most probably haven't even heard of them before. JoshLim mentioned in the previous post that they're concentrating on media coverage now. Well, hopefully that would help them in their goals.

P.S. I know there will die-hard fans out there who will "shoot me" for commenting against them. They may say things like, "Why don't you give your support instead of complaining!". I'm just stating the obvious. If you don't agree with me, it's fine with me, we can leave it as that or you can go check out yourself. Maybe you can ask any member in your family(who uses the Internet of course) whether they've heard of Redesign Malaysia...

This post has been edited by coyouth: Aug 10 2007, 02:38 PM
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post Aug 11 2007, 03:38 AM

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QUOTE(JoshLim @ Aug 10 2007, 01:20 AM)
Ced: Josh here from RedesignMalaysia. Glad that a few of you like what we're doing, much appreciated.

I think we have similiar goals and thoughts in mind,

I first mooted the idea of having a media campaign at the beginning of the year 2007:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=411558&hl=
http://www.redesignmalaysia.com/2007/01/15...nd-in-malaysia/

I'll love to contribute where I can. In the meantime, I'm using Advertlets for awareness, out of my own expense (you'll see these ads currently running on blogs using the Advertlets.com platform for advertising - yes, I also own Advertlets, but bloggers don't run the ads for free smile.gif ) See them below:

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One of the more recent RedesignMalaysia ads got 460 clicks, in only two days. This was for the "Did you know there are more than 16 different ISPs in Malaysia?"

In fact, we could probably run an "open invitation" ad, <b>where we invite people to donate to buy media, like what you mentioned.</b>

I'll be happy to assist with publicizing the initiative through Advertlets, sponsoring some cash, as well as helping to buy the media (I can get the prices for various media, including newspapers).

However, something we need to think about, as pointed out by the65thsquare - the larger media agencies might not run the ad for obvious reasons. We might need to resort to giving out flyers and stickers. Thinking out of the box, even wearing a T-shirt with some useful info might help. Other media to consider: video screens, posters, Google Adsense, banners that bloggers can put on their site, outdoor media (eg billboards).

Having said that though, even getting this initiative off the ground could resort in some media attention. Imagine the headline "1000 Malaysian Tech Enthusiasts Buy Ad Space To Protest The Lack Of Proper Broadband Facilities". Of course, we need a better title than that, that's too long. Haha.

coyouth: Its been a year since RedesignMalaysia launched, and yes, some people question what its actually doing. We don't have a media budget, but we've managed to get on NTV7 (The Breakfast Show - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptgXooZNg7Q), The Edge (http://readthisurl.com/josh+redesignmalaysia), and of course Surf Magazine and In Tech, and the New Straits Times.

Right now we're focusing on media awareness, and you'll be surprised what our primary channel is - search engines.

http://www.redesignmalaysia.com/presskit/infocard.pdf

Check out the search terms that we are optimized for. Search accounts for a lot of our traffic, and primarily, our aim is to help people who are looking for that kind of information, by existing in the first place. We aim to do some real life campaigning soon, especially since we are coming to the first anniversary of the site (it was launched 31 August 2006). We're also in the process of putting together a detailed manifesto, so all contributions are welcome.

Just so you know, the blogging is done by mainly me, scamboy is also a contributing editor, and the rest of the back end work is handled by my company at my own cost (hiring interns, customizing wordpress, compiling data, etc). There is no funding for this project, and it does cost us quite a bit actually. The ISPs listed in the ISP section are not paying a cent at the moment. Thankfully though, its opened doors for us to meet various ISPs and even government agencies, so hopefully one day one of those discussions will result in something fruitful.

Having said all this though, I started RedesignMalaysia to accomplish a goal - make broadband here better, and I can't do it alone. I propose we all meet up to discuss this further, to see how we can contribute in our various ways. Cheers.
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Hey Josh,

I will get back to you as soon as I got some free time. I think we can do a lot together. Broader media coverage is the key, let's work on that.

It's good to see some people do take the initiative smile.gif
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post Aug 11 2007, 05:34 PM

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This news has nothing that directly deals with our topic but just to let you all see how our government can get their priorities wrong as law is quite a tricky affair.

DAP: Get it right
Failing to carry MyKad more serious than beating up a person ridiculous
Ng Kee Seng
PETALING JAYA (Aug 10, 2007): Is failure to carry an identity card a more serious offence than causing voluntary hurt? It is if the punishments provided for in the Penal Code (PC) are used as the yardstick.
DAP secretary-general Lim Guan Eng said the ridiculous state of these sections of the law should be reviewed and amended.

If your leave home and forget to take along your MyKad, and if you are unable to produce the card when asked by a policeman, you are liable to a jail term of up to three years or a fine of between RM3,000 and RM20,000, or both.

Beat up someone and under Section 323 of the PC of voluntarily causes hurt, the offender is only liable to imprisonment for one year or a fine of RM2,000, or both.

Lim suggested that such heavy penalties for failing to carry the MyKad should be reduced to a maximum fine of RM500 and/or one week's jail.

He also said the police should get their priorities right in crime prevention and enforcement.

"Instead of spending too much efforts in going after people who fail to carry their MyKad, or a student for allegedly insulting the government via the internet overseas, they should be catching robbers and rapists who are terrorising neighbourhoods," he added.

Lim was commenting on the two recent cases:

> Jeff Lee Kwong Yong,19, who was arrested on Jan 31 for failing to produce his IC to a policewoman in Kuala Lumpur. Lee could not raise the RM1,000 bail and had to serve six months seven days in prison; and

> The threat by Deputy Internal Security Minister Datuk Johari Baharum that the police would act against the Malaysian student in Taiwan, who used Negaraku in a Mandarin rap video clip shown on YouTube in the internet. Culture, Arts and Heritage Minister Datuk Dr Rais Yatim said he would would ask the Attorney-General Chambers to take action under the National Anthem Act.

Lim said: "In the second case, though Malaysians may disagree with his foul language and sentiments, the 24-year-old student from Muar (Wee Meng Chee) was exercising his freedom of expression. The essence of freedom of expression was captured by French philosopher Voltaire's famous words 'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it'"

He said both Harian Metro and MCA Youth chief Datuk Liow Tiong Lai are guilty of moral hypocrisy, selective persecution and oppressing basic human rights.

"Johari must realise that Wee is not an opposition leader but only an ordinary student. Whether Wee had insulted the national anthem is subjective and the government has clearly lost direction if it has nothing better to do than to waste time on an ordinary student who have not harmed anyone.

"The DAP regrets MCA Youth is following Umno's line in insisting that Wee insulted the national anthem. Such sentiments are similar to Harian Metro's front-page story demanding action be taken because Wee's rap video insulted the national anthem, showed disrespect for the government and touched on the sensitivities of Muslims in the country.

"When has showing disrespect to the government become a criminal offence?" Lim asked.

"Further, if Harian Metro and Leow is so concerned about sensitivities of Malaysians, why do they not behave consistently by demanding that stern action be taken against others who had also provoked extreme hatred via the internet in the country. Police reports have been lodged but no action.

"There should be no double-standards where action is taken against postings allegedly labeled as seditious and false by the government but yet no action is taken against those posted elsewhere.

"Both Harian Metro and Liow are guilty of moral hypocrisy, selective persecution and oppressing basic human rights when calling only for action against those who are unhappy with government policies.

"The challenge is for both Liow and Harian Metro to prove that they are fair and uphold the rule of law by demanding similar action be taken against others, whoever and whatever position they may hold. Otherwise, they should not waste public resources and allow the police to concentrate on its main duty of combating rampant crime threatening our right to live, work, study and play in a safe and secure neighbourhood," he added.
Source: http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=18930
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post Aug 12 2007, 05:41 PM

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M-Bit Network, that's the new gig positioned as the world's first next-gen peer-to-peer (P2P) experience in file search, file-sharing and super distribution through mobile networks.

Quite a mouthful, but that's the promise from Eugene Goh, CEO of MESDAQ-listed mTouche Technology Bhd (mTouche), which announced the pre-launch on April 9.

Currently, P2P technology has been limited to the sharing of content files stored in computers, over fixed-wired networks. So the launch of M-Bit Network is positioned as a significant milestone for mobile technologies.

However, users in Malaysia will have to wait out for service availability, which may take some time yet as the initial launch will be centered in the Japanese market--Perhaps Mobile Ojisan may help us keep a vigilant lookout!

M-Bit Network will be provided via mBit Pte Ltd, a subsidiary that is 60 percent owned by mTouche, together with Singapore-based N2N Consulting Pte Ltd.

"M-Bit Network is the first of its kind in the world because it allows the P2P sharing of content files between mobile phones and via transmission over wireless mobile networks," Goh said in a media release to this blogger.

For a start, the focus will be skewed toward buy-in from both handset manufacturers and mobile network operators from Japan and Korea, where "4th Generation (4G) mobile networks are said to be already established", giving the company a platform for the launch of M-Bit Network.

Primary target is Japan, one of the world's largest and most advanced mobile markets with a mobile population of more than 100 million subscribers.

"We aim to launch M-Bit Network with at least one major carrier in Japan by the end of 2007 with a target user base of 1 million subscribers, which is roughly 1 percent of the current mobile user population in Japan," Goh added.

It is understood that there will be a standard subscription fee in line with the average fee of mobile value-added services readily offered in Japan.

Being a regional key player in mobile messaging technologies and interactive media applications, mTouche intends to leverage the launch of M-Bit Network to further solidify its position as probably the world's
first global P2P Search and File Super Distribution network that works across both wireless and wired networks for Mobile Web 2.0, rich media and advertising services.

How mobile P2P works
In a nutshell, M-Bit Network users will be able to browse through music or video files stored on other mobile phones, besides downloading authorized files into their own handset. The user may even broadcast the content to a group of friends once he/she has obtained a new ready-to-share file.

Expect some smart functions, like one that cuts short the user's browsing time while searching in the vast sea of content stored in available handsets. Virally, it may develop into link-up opportunities for mobile advertising.

The enablers include an M-Bit Client software that facilitates the key features such as Share and Search, Download Manager, Group Manager, Podcasting, Presence and Chatting), and the M-Bit Control server which acts as a centralized tracking system for administrators to monitor files that are being downloaded or shared, for the obvious functions of reporting and billing.

A lot of thought has also been given to the intuitive features that you have grown to familiarize with in the P2P experience, for automatic resumption of a disrupted file download.

Another P2P minefield is the occurrence of "transaction time" that hogs the data channel on the operator's core network, which needs to be efficiently reduced. The other is the question of efficient bandwidth usage at the service provider's side. This is critical in ensuring faster, and even concurrent, file downloads from multiple P2P and HTTP sources.

As P2P experience has evolved tremendously over the years on the Web, it is equally critical for the system to command the ability to offload the load of the content servers by having more distributed sources. In a demanding market like Japan, and even China, concurrent downloads by the millions of a popular song or video will easily cripple servers and network infrastructure.

The other P2P "blackhole" vastly experienced in the Web-based file-sharing applications is the prevalence of malware, virus or illegal content. Apparently, Goh explained, M-Bit has paid due attentions to these challenges. For example, M-Bit Network has included the provision of a unique signature of any select file(s) transmitted to facilitate the filtering, identification and tracking of the content to mitigate those common problems.

For a start, industry endorsement coming the way of M-Bit Network looks rather promising. It was recently awarded the First Runner-up for 3rd Edition Challenge organized by Nokia and Macromedia during the Symbian Smartphone Show 2006 in London. Besides, it has been shortlisted as one of the three finalists for the first Asia Mobile Innovation Awards organized by GSM Association, and as a finalist in the Mobile Music and Innovator of the Year category in Forum Nokia Pro Awards 2006.

That's quite a bit of achievement for mTouche as it venturs beyond Malaysia.CNET ASIA
do u guys think will come true?
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post Aug 19 2007, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(capcomfly @ Aug 12 2007, 05:41 PM)
M-Bit Network, that's the new gig positioned as the world's first next-gen peer-to-peer (P2P) experience in file search, file-sharing and super distribution through mobile networks.

Quite a mouthful, but that's the promise from Eugene Goh, CEO of MESDAQ-listed mTouche Technology Bhd (mTouche), which announced the pre-launch on April 9.

Currently, P2P technology has been limited to the sharing of content files stored in computers, over fixed-wired networks. So the launch of M-Bit Network is positioned as a significant milestone for mobile technologies.

However, users in Malaysia will have to wait out for service availability, which may take some time yet as the initial launch will be centered in the Japanese market--Perhaps Mobile Ojisan may help us keep a vigilant lookout!

M-Bit Network will be provided via mBit Pte Ltd, a subsidiary that is 60 percent owned by mTouche, together with Singapore-based N2N Consulting Pte Ltd.

"M-Bit Network is the first of its kind in the world because it allows the P2P sharing of content files between mobile phones and via transmission over wireless mobile networks," Goh said in a media release to this blogger.

For a start, the focus will be skewed toward buy-in from both handset manufacturers and mobile network operators from Japan and Korea, where "4th Generation (4G) mobile networks are said to be already established", giving the company a platform for the launch of M-Bit Network.

Primary target is Japan, one of the world's largest and most advanced mobile markets with a mobile population of more than 100 million subscribers.

"We aim to launch M-Bit Network with at least one major carrier in Japan by the end of 2007 with a target user base of 1 million subscribers, which is roughly 1 percent of the current mobile user population in Japan," Goh added.

It is understood that there will be a standard subscription fee in line with the average fee of mobile value-added services readily offered in Japan.

Being a regional key player in mobile messaging technologies and interactive media applications, mTouche intends to leverage the launch of M-Bit Network to further solidify its position as probably the world's
first global P2P Search and File Super Distribution network that works across both wireless and wired networks for Mobile Web 2.0, rich media and advertising services.

How mobile P2P works
In a nutshell, M-Bit Network users will be able to browse through music or video files stored on other mobile phones, besides downloading authorized files into their own handset. The user may even broadcast the content to a group of friends once he/she has obtained a new ready-to-share file.

Expect some smart functions, like one that cuts short the user's browsing time while searching in the vast sea of content stored in available handsets. Virally, it may develop into link-up opportunities for mobile advertising.

The enablers include an M-Bit Client software that facilitates the key features such as Share and Search, Download Manager, Group Manager, Podcasting, Presence and Chatting), and the M-Bit Control server which acts as a centralized tracking system for administrators to monitor files that are being downloaded or shared, for the obvious functions of reporting and billing.

A lot of thought has also been given to the intuitive features that you have grown to familiarize with in the P2P experience, for automatic resumption of a disrupted file download.

Another P2P minefield is the occurrence of "transaction time" that hogs the data channel on the operator's core network, which needs to be efficiently reduced. The other is the question of efficient bandwidth usage at the service provider's side. This is critical in ensuring faster, and even concurrent, file downloads from multiple P2P and HTTP sources.

As P2P experience has evolved tremendously over the years on the Web, it is equally critical for the system to command the ability to offload the load of the content servers by having more distributed sources. In a demanding market like Japan, and even China, concurrent downloads by the millions of a popular song or video will easily cripple servers and network infrastructure.

The other P2P "blackhole" vastly experienced in the Web-based file-sharing applications is the prevalence of malware, virus or illegal content. Apparently, Goh explained, M-Bit has paid due attentions to these challenges. For example, M-Bit Network has included the provision of a unique signature of any select file(s) transmitted to facilitate the filtering, identification and tracking of the content to mitigate those common problems.

For a start, industry endorsement coming the way of M-Bit Network looks rather promising. It was recently awarded the First Runner-up for 3rd Edition Challenge organized by Nokia and Macromedia during the Symbian Smartphone Show 2006 in London. Besides, it has been shortlisted as one of the three finalists for the first Asia Mobile Innovation Awards organized by GSM Association, and as a finalist in the Mobile Music and Innovator of the Year category in Forum Nokia Pro Awards 2006.

That's quite a bit of achievement for mTouche as it venturs beyond Malaysia.CNET ASIA
do u guys think will come true?
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JOSH LIM,

U have my support!!!! Lets us all fight again this stupid useless blady company.

Their fixed line business should bankrupt years back, but they force streamyx users to subscribe to phone lines...
BLOODY HELL!!!!

They charge so high, they own the whole infrastructure and yet the have the WORST internet service in the country. thumbup.gif

Wherever you go you will see Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx,Streamyx

MArketing damm good but service DAMM bad!!! mad.gif

Dunno till when all this USELESS people in the company will get fired....I think daily they go to work, lay their ass, bark, then kutuk other staff, cheat customers then they go home.....

When next election ha??...... rclxm9.gif
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post Aug 19 2007, 04:06 AM

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Ced, you have my vote!

Just leave those people who are skeptical or think this cant be done mindset in the corner. When no one are doing anything, someone will say "someone should do that" or "we need to do something" and now when someone is here to do it, who is not our citizen, for god sake, people started to question his idea.

I think the most suitable time to strike is on next Election. That is the time when all those leaders who will move their asses and suddenly becomes hardworking, well, until he get elected. Its about time we had enough of this crap for such a long time.

No vote for government if they still want to let TMnut taking our money with terrible services!
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QUOTE(Thunderbolt @ Aug 19 2007, 04:06 AM)
Ced, you have my vote!

Just leave those people who are skeptical or think this cant be done mindset in the corner. When no one are doing anything, someone will say "someone should do that" or "we need to do something" and now when someone is here to do it, who is not our citizen, for god sake, people started to question his idea.

I think the most suitable time to strike is on next Election. That is the time when all those leaders who will move their asses and suddenly becomes hardworking, well, until he get elected. Its about time we had enough of this crap for such a long time.

No vote for government if they still want to let TMnut taking our money with terrible services!
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I agree.

Teaming up with redesign malaysia, and get as many people as possible to help. Advertising will be for later though, as we need to build solid foundation for any further action. I'm preparing a survey as well as a more refined petition, so that we can better measure the problems we are facing and popular support any action will require. Will post updates here when I can.

Speaking of the election, we definitely need to form a lobby group to sensitize politicians on internet access issues (and more globally, on consumer's rights protection). I'm sorry I have a complete lack of knowledge when it comes to malaysia politics. You help would be very valuable.

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