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coyouth
post Jul 27 2007, 11:37 AM

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Well, if things which are done are PROPER, and it's LEGAL, and you've thought of all the CONSEQUENCES, then, just GO FOR IT. It's all about taking CALCULATIVE RISKS. If you've done your homework, don't let other's dissuade you from doing it. Malaysians are all too used to 'No action, talk only'. If we had the wrong mindset, we wouldn't have got our independence.
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post Aug 4 2007, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(Slowpoke @ Jul 27 2007, 03:03 PM)
Perhaps if we had the right mindset, we wouldn't care too much for our independence...

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Typical Malaysian mentality...


Added on August 4, 2007, 10:21 am
QUOTE(izzymaxx @ Jul 28 2007, 04:30 PM)

I like some of the ideas in Redesign Malaysia. Its a good proper channel for stuff to work. Humiliate one and they will always strike back with venom.
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I'm just wondering, the last time I heard of Redesign Malaysia was in a computer magazine. Even when it appeared in the newspaper, it appeared in InTech section of TheStar. I was just wondering, of all the time it existed, what is its impact and what are its accomplishments?

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post Aug 10 2007, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(sharkteef @ Aug 4 2007, 06:27 PM)
redesign malaysia is good. There are many from lowyat forums. Impact alot. accomplishments alot. Knowledge given also alot.
best to see foryourself. head on over to their website. This is lowyat's forum. u wont get much info from here as u get over there. I always believe if you wanna know something bout someone, juz ask that someone instead of going elsewhere to ask.
Its like asking a honda showroom saleperson bout a toyota car.
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You don't get my point. Besides their website(which you are pointing me towards as well) or maybe a few geeks out there who constantly shout on their behalf, I don't see any impact from them. Ask any Internet user on the street and they most probably haven't even heard of them before. JoshLim mentioned in the previous post that they're concentrating on media coverage now. Well, hopefully that would help them in their goals.

P.S. I know there will die-hard fans out there who will "shoot me" for commenting against them. They may say things like, "Why don't you give your support instead of complaining!". I'm just stating the obvious. If you don't agree with me, it's fine with me, we can leave it as that or you can go check out yourself. Maybe you can ask any member in your family(who uses the Internet of course) whether they've heard of Redesign Malaysia...

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post Aug 11 2007, 05:34 PM

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This news has nothing that directly deals with our topic but just to let you all see how our government can get their priorities wrong as law is quite a tricky affair.

DAP: Get it right
Failing to carry MyKad more serious than beating up a person ridiculous
Ng Kee Seng
PETALING JAYA (Aug 10, 2007): Is failure to carry an identity card a more serious offence than causing voluntary hurt? It is if the punishments provided for in the Penal Code (PC) are used as the yardstick.
DAP secretary-general Lim Guan Eng said the ridiculous state of these sections of the law should be reviewed and amended.

If your leave home and forget to take along your MyKad, and if you are unable to produce the card when asked by a policeman, you are liable to a jail term of up to three years or a fine of between RM3,000 and RM20,000, or both.

Beat up someone and under Section 323 of the PC of voluntarily causes hurt, the offender is only liable to imprisonment for one year or a fine of RM2,000, or both.

Lim suggested that such heavy penalties for failing to carry the MyKad should be reduced to a maximum fine of RM500 and/or one week's jail.

He also said the police should get their priorities right in crime prevention and enforcement.

"Instead of spending too much efforts in going after people who fail to carry their MyKad, or a student for allegedly insulting the government via the internet overseas, they should be catching robbers and rapists who are terrorising neighbourhoods," he added.

Lim was commenting on the two recent cases:

> Jeff Lee Kwong Yong,19, who was arrested on Jan 31 for failing to produce his IC to a policewoman in Kuala Lumpur. Lee could not raise the RM1,000 bail and had to serve six months seven days in prison; and

> The threat by Deputy Internal Security Minister Datuk Johari Baharum that the police would act against the Malaysian student in Taiwan, who used Negaraku in a Mandarin rap video clip shown on YouTube in the internet. Culture, Arts and Heritage Minister Datuk Dr Rais Yatim said he would would ask the Attorney-General Chambers to take action under the National Anthem Act.

Lim said: "In the second case, though Malaysians may disagree with his foul language and sentiments, the 24-year-old student from Muar (Wee Meng Chee) was exercising his freedom of expression. The essence of freedom of expression was captured by French philosopher Voltaire's famous words 'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it'"

He said both Harian Metro and MCA Youth chief Datuk Liow Tiong Lai are guilty of moral hypocrisy, selective persecution and oppressing basic human rights.

"Johari must realise that Wee is not an opposition leader but only an ordinary student. Whether Wee had insulted the national anthem is subjective and the government has clearly lost direction if it has nothing better to do than to waste time on an ordinary student who have not harmed anyone.

"The DAP regrets MCA Youth is following Umno's line in insisting that Wee insulted the national anthem. Such sentiments are similar to Harian Metro's front-page story demanding action be taken because Wee's rap video insulted the national anthem, showed disrespect for the government and touched on the sensitivities of Muslims in the country.

"When has showing disrespect to the government become a criminal offence?" Lim asked.

"Further, if Harian Metro and Leow is so concerned about sensitivities of Malaysians, why do they not behave consistently by demanding that stern action be taken against others who had also provoked extreme hatred via the internet in the country. Police reports have been lodged but no action.

"There should be no double-standards where action is taken against postings allegedly labeled as seditious and false by the government but yet no action is taken against those posted elsewhere.

"Both Harian Metro and Liow are guilty of moral hypocrisy, selective persecution and oppressing basic human rights when calling only for action against those who are unhappy with government policies.

"The challenge is for both Liow and Harian Metro to prove that they are fair and uphold the rule of law by demanding similar action be taken against others, whoever and whatever position they may hold. Otherwise, they should not waste public resources and allow the police to concentrate on its main duty of combating rampant crime threatening our right to live, work, study and play in a safe and secure neighbourhood," he added.
Source: http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=18930

 

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