I'm f---ing starving. Donate to me.

No, I say we are all starving. Look at us, to have and have not. We pay for a service, but the money goes to the ones who care only for profits and f--- all else. Who are poorer, as a nation? We are.

This post has been edited by Bad Cyborg: Jul 27 2007, 10:00 AM

in my opinion, this ad will not causing trouble coz we are a customer who paid nearly rm100 every month (if you sum internet +phone line) for unreliable service. Much more, we r the customer whu been bully by monopolize ISP.
Others can say..why subscribe?, kalau tak mahu jangan langgan lah,and some other things, but bear in mind, internet now is a must in every home now,just like the television started years back ago..

ok..lets say the ad already publish,and malaysian boomed with this news. R Tmnut will going to sue the publisher?
i dont think so,coz every word in Tmnut ad in the tv are lie...such as:

1. online games (most of the online game now cannot be played coz to laggy)
2. download music (true, but now without p2p we must use http based download like rapidshare which is u must reconnect for each download to get new IP)

so,will the TMnut sue the ad publisher although they r the ones who started to lie??

This post has been edited by kur8cobain: Jul 27 2007, 12:08 PM

Well, if things which are done are PROPER, and it's LEGAL, and you've thought of all the CONSEQUENCES, then, just GO FOR IT. It's all about taking CALCULATIVE RISKS. If you've done your homework, don't let other's dissuade you from doing it. Malaysians are all too used to 'No action, talk only'. If we had the wrong mindset, we wouldn't have got our independence.

Not sure for that, but you can try 1st and let us know the results.. haha Jk. I'd terminated my Streamyx account coz it sucks big time after 2 years. Back to the old Prepaid 1515 and it really saves me a lot of money/mth. I only use my company Streamyx coz they dunno how to fully utilize it. hahahaha

Hey..its not me whu started this ad idea,,im just giving my opinion about the consequences if the ad published...

just make big banner and gantung it in front of TMNUT HQ :

Im ready to fork out 50 bucks for this! Let's have some kinda petition!

Perhaps if we had the right mindset, we wouldn't care too much for our independence...

And more ontopic, I seriously doubt a petition or these ads will actually accomplish much. Waste of money. If you want your Bleach #790 or One piece #65535 just go buy some VPN services or whatever.

This post has been edited by Slowpoke: Jul 27 2007, 03:09 PM

My advice = get some up coming hot shot politician to do this ..they love this kind of action ...champion the underdogs ...

though the ad will not do much , but it will a message to the top management that we are mean business and after couple of time full page ..the cabinet might step in

This post has been edited by heroes99: Jul 27 2007, 03:13 PM

I can partly agree your suggestion. This way, you can save a lot lot of moneys. Go find some politicans to "campur tangan" and I'm sure every newspaper will come to give u a free advertising. It's only a waste of time and money if you said compile all money and advertise. How long can you advertise? a year? Kept them money for better future. I bet that does better than doing such thing as advertising.

Whether you want to do it or not, get ready for the consequence after you've done something and don't regret it. There's much more people out there need financial supplies. Many rich people not a givers. Try to open today's The Star newspaper and see the topic with something like Discard poverty.

Sueing is ok, advertising is shit. You want advertise, go do your own banner and photostat with your whole assets and do the advertising, I bet that's more effective than newspaper.

why don't you guys just strike in front of the TM tower? Worst case scenario is you guys will be caught by the police....

TmNet Announcement : Due to unfortunate circumstances which happened in front of Tmnet office. There will be service interuption for XX and XX areas.
We Appologize for the inconvenience caused.

How about all of us wearing T-shirt written "TMNet lousy service provider"? We have a gathering near TMNet's booth at KLCC PC Fair.

Your a one post member .... you don't have much background here and you could just be anyone ? You don't quite inspire much confidence

Don't get me wrong, i hate tmnut as much as the next person but....

What happens if you pocket the money and run ? i rather trust a regular then some newbie that just joined, my 50 cents


PS: i would also be wary since the gov recently announced the death to freedom of speech on the internet especially for bloggers. If you put in the ad defaming tmnut they could possibly sue you for defamation o_O; ....

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jul 27 2007, 09:58 PM

Get it?

the only is, How can the heck we trust the "treasurer" that is choosen? Scammers everywhere. Later come out this lari money then baru complain here and there.

Someone with a special TAG.

Hey guys,

Going to reply your concerns as well as throwing a few more thoughts in the debate.

Very important point. That's why I'm not going to impose myself as the treasurer (furthermore I don't think I'm the right person since I'm actually not a malaysian citizen). Anyway, the treasurer needs to be a respectable, known figure within the community. If an association, such as redesign malaysia for instance, could back this initiative, that would help establish needed trust to raise funds. Is there actually any customer right's activist or association in this country?

That's correct. As I mentioned it before, if we come up with an ad, it must be professional. Professionally written and appealing design. No point going through all these efforts to publish rants.

That's a very good suggestion. We shouldn't limit ourselves to just one action. Let's not forget our primary goal here is to get as much publicity about the problem as possible.

Running a full-page advertisement in a mainstream newspaper is one option. Get politicians to join in to support customer's rights is another one that we should not exclude. It's actually complementary if we want to go further than just making noise about the issue. It also has that "double effect", as you said, to bring free coverage from the media. It's a free option moreover, but we need network here. We need to get in contact with such a politician, one that is willing to fight for its compatriots rights.

I would be eager to support this action as well. Public protest during a major gathering is a good way to draw people and media attention. Wear tshirt, bring big signs, distribute brochures, welcome people to sign a petition. That's the kind of action the media would be very likely to report on. Now, it's not about messing with TM Net's booth or disturbing the event, but doing it with respect. We want more people to support us, not be against us, right?

Sometimes you have to stand up for your rights, and not let others bully you. Anyway, any action to be taken has to be smart. No defamation, keep it to facts, raise questions, do not draw conclusions.


Anyway, we are not bound to just one action, but we need to join our force and get something done, else nothing will change. I think all your concerns are legitimate. Nothing prevents us from starting gradually. Let's get petitions and demonstration running first, if it can build confidence within the community. If anyone knows journalists, let's try to get our stories in the media, but I'm talking about a real article here; investigation journalism, not a couple of paragraphes quickly threw in to fill in a page.

Actually the whole Malaysian has already ackowledged about Streamyx performance. Nothing can be done becoz they rule (price wise) the fixed-line broadband market, for now.

Actually, not true, only a very small portion of Malaysian realize about this. Some times ago i have ranted about how sucks Streamyx is after a department meeting (~40+ ppl), but everyone was like "oh yea?" "Ya keh?" "Yes ah?"