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 Breaking* BNM say no need to pay loans, for 6 months

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pakmulau
post Mar 25 2020, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(doomvein @ Mar 25 2020, 12:00 AM)
so what? now go open rm1000 forex . go trade .market so volatile now. it good. lose big win big.

u dont need that all theory or shit... they dont even trade. why you want believe ktard?

in the end. price and emotion will decide where market shall go..
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it's not about to believe or not

i just asking the general question about share/bursa

at least i learn something

fyi i never learn basic economy/account during school/uni days

all i know just reading from news smile.gif
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post Mar 25 2020, 12:05 AM

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Bro jgn pancut awal sume. Read in 1st page mention accrued interest also will be waived
marukopi
post Mar 25 2020, 12:06 AM

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If read the BNM statement, Assist borrower affected by COVID-19 Outbreak

if affected, then halt all loan payment for any servicing loan for 6 month automatically
if not, then pay as usual

But, how should bank know i am affected or not?
Still need to be apply right?
SUSLiamness
post Mar 25 2020, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(yoshiki81 @ Mar 25 2020, 12:02 AM)
Only who effected not all..confirm by my friend..call bank rakyat..still need to pay
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The rule right now is only those who lost their jobs, took unpaid leave, got infected, etc. Can claim suspension of loans..

You need to submit documents of evidence to the banks too.. i.e. bank statement, letter from employer, etc..

I think that what it means by automatic. But we dont clearly know enough until banks officially come out and make their announcements.. probably tomorrow.

Everything is a competition with these banks btw. Let's see who offers their customers real good packages.
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post Mar 25 2020, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(uk9089 @ Mar 24 2020, 11:27 PM)
Accrued interest meaning

Apr : RM100 interest
May : RM100 interest
Jun : RM100 interest
Jul : RM100 interest
Aug : RM100 interest
Sep :  RM100 interest

October : Pay Apr principal + Apr to Sep interest + Oct principal & interest

or

October : Pay Apr to Oct principal + Apr to Oct interest

or

October : Pay Apr principal + Apr interest

Apa mcm?
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not so simple, as there is interest on interest.

October : Pay Apr principal + Apr interest + interest rate x (RM600) biggrin.gif
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post Mar 25 2020, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(marukopi @ Mar 25 2020, 12:06 AM)
If read the BNM statement, Assist borrower affected by COVID-19 Outbreak

if affected, then halt all loan payment for any servicing loan for 6 month automatically
if not, then pay as usual

But, how should bank know i am affected or not?
Still need to be apply right?
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That is the weird thing, if you apply is not automatic anymore. And manual one already announced by bank before this. Somehow this is different than the previous announced by bank.
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post Mar 25 2020, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ Mar 25 2020, 12:08 AM)
That is the weird thing, if you apply is not automatic anymore. And manual one already announced by bank before this. Somehow this is different than the previous announced by bank.
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still automatic if accross all servicing product
not that u need to apply for house loan, than hire purchase, than personal loan
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post Mar 25 2020, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ Mar 25 2020, 12:08 AM)
That is the weird thing, if you apply is not automatic anymore. And manual one already announced by bank before this. Somehow this is different than the previous announced by bank.
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Precisely. Automatic means automatic lar..adoi
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post Mar 25 2020, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Mar 24 2020, 09:49 PM)
liamness rejoice!
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Right on cue la..

Told you the banks will do everything in their powers to help people that have debt.

Debt is the most powerful tool in the world.

Also, this move is just as bad for savers & bond holders as the fed/bnm printing unlimited money to bail out debters like myself. Haha..

That's the next step btw. Banks printing cash in overdrive.. negative interest rates ftw.
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QUOTE(bloodynames @ Mar 24 2020, 10:56 PM)
This was before the BNM's announcement today.

So it's now automatic for all, and yes, there's no accrued interest and no hit on your CCRIS.
They aren't gonna announce an "automatic" relief where the whole country pays more interest to banks at the end.
No one will "automatically" pay more.
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Sounds logic bro.
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post Mar 25 2020, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(pakmulau @ Mar 24 2020, 11:04 PM)
it's not about to believe or not

i just asking the general question about share/bursa

at least i learn something

fyi i never learn basic economy/account during school/uni days

all i know just reading from news smile.gif
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dont need to learn lah. just go open rm1000 trade forex bet rm10 cuci rm30. lose rm10 must cut . dont wait wait. follow that rule.see if u can tahan. if u break the rules. dont ever touch this gambling machine again.

u want be fish in bursa? then go. epf and mutual fund manager welcome you. they know better than you. better info access.

what u have as edge? if u dont know your edge. why u want go trade bursa? . so if u want find your edge. go trade now. dont wait.

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post Mar 25 2020, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Mar 25 2020, 12:01 AM)
You are wrong.. let's take car finance for instance..

Your payment schedule and interest is already locked. I.e. the interest is a fixed amount. Even if you paid off earlier, you will still be charged the same amount of interest as somebody who settled your car loan at the end of tenure.
So your theory of accrued interest during moratorium is impossible for car loans at least..
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You have not done early settlement before don't you? If done hire purchase early settlement for car hire purchase 3 times already and there's always a rebate for early settlement.
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post Mar 25 2020, 12:20 AM

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Key word is automatic right? Just sit back and bank will do right?
rooney723
post Mar 25 2020, 12:24 AM

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flippers cukur, own more than 10 properties suddenly all duneed pay loan for 6 months! kerajaan PN memang prihatin!
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post Mar 25 2020, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Mar 25 2020, 12:01 AM)
You are wrong.. let's take car finance for instance..

Your payment schedule and interest is already locked. I.e. the interest is a fixed amount. Even if you paid off earlier, you will still be charged the same amount of interest as somebody who settled your car loan at the end of tenure.
So your theory of accrued interest during moratorium is impossible for car loans at least..
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Car loans are simple interest, but there are still ways to penalize borrowers that default their payments. The banks can always accumulate the non-payment and apply interest on them (i.e. interest on the interest). This is easy, usually used for defaulters.

Also you are the one who is wrong about the interest calculation for early settlement. There is this thing called rebate. Whatever interest payable that has not been paid would be rebated upon early settlement. There are calculators to calculate actual outstanding of your hire purchase, find it

As for reducing balance more commonly used for mortgages, asbf, it is also easy to accrue the interest. Interest for these loans are charged on a daily basis, just accumulate the interest accrued each day for the number of days until you make a loan repayment (which reduces your loan balance)

Any of these ways are possible but we don't know yet what the banks will decide. I doubt they will agree to absorb the cost though, the money they lend to their customers are borrowed too and they are charged interest on these funds as well

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post Mar 25 2020, 12:34 AM

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Fuck this is confusing, i though the simpler explanation is you delay 6 month pay. That means if your loan is meant to end in January 2030 it should now end July 2030.

Isnt this right?
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post Mar 25 2020, 12:37 AM

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i rmb few days ago, got ppl ask about this, got many stupid ktards say bank will all die if they do so, they wont do it.


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post Mar 25 2020, 12:48 AM

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No need to think. Just pay as usual.
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post Mar 25 2020, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Mar 25 2020, 12:26 AM)
Car loans are simple interest, but there are still ways to penalize borrowers that default their payments. The banks can always accumulate the non-payment and apply interest on them (i.e. interest on the interest). This is easy, usually used for defaulters.

Also you are the one who is wrong about the interest calculation for early settlement. There is this thing called rebate. Whatever interest payable that has not been paid would be rebated upon early settlement. There are calculators to calculate actual outstanding of your hire purchase, find it

As for reducing balance more commonly used for mortgages, asbf, it is also easy to accrue the interest. Interest for these loans are charged on a daily basis, just accumulate the interest accrued each day for the number of days until you make a loan repayment (which reduces your loan balance)

Any of these ways are possible but we don't know yet what the banks will decide. I doubt they will agree to absorb the cost though, the money they lend to their customers are borrowed too and they are charged interest on these funds as well
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Sigh.. A rebate is a rebate.

That is totally different from saying that the hire purchase interest will increase or reduce due to the suspension of loan payments..

You cant suddenly accrue more intetest on your car loan. It's not possible when your payment schedule and interest is fixed from start to finish.. now, at the end of the tenure, the bank may give you a discount for early settlement or a penalty for being late. But again, that is totally different from scenario like this where you are lawfully allowed to suspend your loan for 6 months. Your payment schedule and interest is still fixed.. the only thing that has changed is the end date. That's all..

And your example of accrued interest still doesnt work for car or even personal loans where the interest isn't based on days but rather on your payment schedule. I.e. 60 monthly payments of X amount until the end of Y date.. the interest has already been precalculated and built in..

Hence, the banks cannot charge you interest whilst your loan ia being suspended. It's pretty clear to me on this rule. And my example of how would you charge interest on predetermined or fixed loans such as hire purchase is one of the compelling reasons why the banks won't charge interest on any loan suspension. Including your house loan. They have got to be fair and apply all equal rules across the board.. so if they can't do it for one type of loan, means they should be consisrent and not apply additional interest across the board..

At least that's my logic to this.

This post has been edited by Liamness: Mar 25 2020, 01:14 AM
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QUOTE(purplecar @ Mar 24 2020, 09:49 PM)
What does this mean in layman's term? I can temporarily stop paying my car loan for the next six months then continue after that?
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Dn play play, better check with bank
Based on the letter, both bank and u need to have consensus on this matter so that u are granted with moratorium (not automatically) and shall continue paying if u can afford

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