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 ◙The New PROTON PERSONA◙, ~Official Thread~

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SUSpeYno
post Aug 12 2007, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(caviars @ Aug 12 2007, 02:50 PM)
I think what he is trying to say is that P2 follow the QA and QC standard similar to toyota/daihatsu. if you work in Japs company you will know that they are really strict when it comes to quality
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so do u think toyota thailand and UMW malaysia QC,QA level are the same??? this is nothing to do with Company Brand... this is how t do with workers attitude and skill... we know Thailand Toyota has better QC and produce better Toyota cars compared to UMW malysia.. thats y, japas car manufacturers prefer Thai to make investment

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post Aug 12 2007, 04:08 PM

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Proton basher always overrate toyota and honda..
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post Aug 12 2007, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(hokuan @ Aug 12 2007, 04:08 PM)
Proton basher always overrate toyota and honda..
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mindset : japanese is superior

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post Aug 12 2007, 04:39 PM

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I think the mindset is not that "japanese is superior". It should be "local made is inferior".

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post Aug 12 2007, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(caviars @ Aug 12 2007, 04:39 PM)
I think the mindset is not that "japanese is superior". It should be "local made is inferior".
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but local made with japanese touch... they oso praise like hell ooo tongue.gif

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3 more days to go. Hope can see some (if not many) improvements from P1.
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post Aug 12 2007, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(peYno @ Aug 12 2007, 03:59 PM)
so do u think toyota thailand and UMW malaysia QC,QA level are the same??? this is nothing to do with Company Brand... this is how t do with workers attitude and skill... we know Thailand Toyota has better QC and produce better Toyota cars compared to UMW malysia.. thats y, japas car manufacturers prefer Thai to make investment
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nope...the main reason Thailand become Detroit of Asia is because the open policy practiced by their government that attracts investors. Our government at that time still practicing a ridiculous policy to protect proton and scare off potential investors. I sincerely hope our government has learn a lesson a be more proactive.
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It looks quite nice,and its price is cheap(dun compare with wut u can actually get..u know..without all those heavy taxes..). If its quality is good,unlike other Protons then why not?
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post Aug 12 2007, 06:26 PM

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the looks are superb. but not sure how is it goin to fare overall.
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QUOTE(ataris @ Aug 12 2007, 06:26 PM)
the looks are superb. but not sure how is it goin to fare overall.
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Yeah,and sadly i dun have good feeling about it... (This is what we call perception..)
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post Aug 12 2007, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(amir_iskandar @ Aug 12 2007, 06:09 PM)
nope...the main reason Thailand become Detroit of Asia is because the open policy practiced by their government that attracts investors. Our government at that time still practicing a ridiculous policy to protect proton and scare off potential investors. I sincerely hope our government has learn a lesson a be more proactive.
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do u know, y Japanese allow Toyota and honda at Rayong Thai to assemble Hi end Camry/accord, and let UMW assemble only the low end camry/accord??

becoz they trust thai workers more than UMW/Honda melaka staff.. smile.gif

look at our electronic/manufacturing industry .. now they(japs) are shifting their operation to Thailand/vietnam as well... nothing to do w/gorv policy..

Just admit.. Japs love Thai ppl (competitive,good worker attitude and skillful)

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QUOTE(peYno @ Aug 12 2007, 06:28 PM)
do u know, y  Japanese allow Toyota and honda at Rayong Thai to assemble Hi end Camry/accord, and let UMW assemble only the low end camry/accord??

becoz they trust thai workers more than UMW/Honda melaka staff.. smile.gif

look at our electronic industry .. now they(japs) are shifting their operation to Thailand/vietnam as well... nothing to do w/gorv policy..

Just admit.. Japs love Thai ppl (competitive,good worker attitude and skillful)
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Err. I totally agree with u.
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post Aug 12 2007, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(amir_iskandar @ Aug 12 2007, 06:09 PM)
nope...the main reason Thailand become Detroit of Asia is because the open policy practiced by their government that attracts investors. Our government at that time still practicing a ridiculous policy to protect proton and scare off potential investors. I sincerely hope our government has learn a lesson a be more proactive.
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Too late for that, as proton will never be left dead as this will be devastating for these local politicans and cronies which uses Proton and its suppliers as massive money makers.

So all we need to pray is to Proton to improve to reach better heights, better quality cars for us and so on. Put ur trust on the current management, i believe they can improve Proton.

QUOTE(peYno @ Aug 12 2007, 06:28 PM)
do u know, y  Japanese allow Toyota and honda at Rayong Thai to assemble Hi end Camry/accord, and let UMW assemble only the low end camry/accord??

becoz they trust thai workers more than UMW/Honda melaka staff.. smile.gif

look at our electronic/manufacturing industry .. now they(japs) are shifting their operation to Thailand/vietnam as well... nothing to do w/gorv policy..

Just admit.. Japs love Thai ppl (competitive,good worker attitude and skillful)
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Though u can be annoying at times, i have to agree on your statement here. Unless proton did not exist in the 1st place, we might have camry and accords with sat navs and perhaps way cheaper car prices. While the automotive industry is a losing ground in Mysia, we still be thankful high tech companies like Dell, Intel and a num of outsource companies still putting investment and growth in their malaysia operations.

While i can see Vietnam is currently booming like what Malaysia did in the 70-80ist. Not so sure how is their worker's attitude though.
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post Aug 12 2007, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(amir_iskandar @ Aug 12 2007, 06:09 PM)
nope...the main reason Thailand become Detroit of Asia is because the open policy practiced by their government that attracts investors. Our government at that time still practicing a ridiculous policy to protect proton and scare off potential investors. I sincerely hope our government has learn a lesson a be more proactive.
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but it is still the same to-date.
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post Aug 12 2007, 09:56 PM

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Though u can be annoying at times, i have to agree on your statement here. Unless proton did not exist in the 1st place, we might have camry and accords with sat navs and perhaps way cheaper car prices. While the automotive industry is a losing ground in Mysia, we still be thankful high tech companies like Dell, Intel and a num of outsource companies still putting investment and growth in their malaysia operations.

While i can see Vietnam is currently booming like what Malaysia did in the 70-80ist. Not so sure how is their worker's attitude though.


I think is not about worker`s attitude but is cheaper workers. Coz all worker is work and control under management. If the workers`s attitude is no good they will quit it for a long long time.

BTW we r out of topic now.

Now we have to do is wait n see this 'Proton New Sedan' product made under the new management.
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post Aug 12 2007, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(caviars @ Aug 12 2007, 02:50 PM)
I think what he is trying to say is that P2 follow the QA and QC standard similar to toyota/daihatsu. if you work in Japs company you will know that they are really strict when it comes to quality
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Have to agree with this statement..but it all depends who is the head of UMW Malaysia though..if the head is a Jap, rest assured all cars coming out from the production line is top quality biggrin.gif
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gov x kan kurangkan cukai kereta import... sbb org kaya sure beli kete import... so kat situ dia cukai rakyat.... dia tau org kaya nak lari cukai beli kete import lor.....
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post Aug 13 2007, 12:35 AM

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Wah...nice and clear pics.
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