WQL not coming yet.....

yes persona.... waiting for sign received form.....

U make me laugh at tat post. 55k?, cant produce quality ? Hey, the japs can make a honda city for tat price . why cant our useless proton.
The honda city and vios are the lowest spec cars and go for something like 12 - 15k usd .

Interior, power and technology is superior . Proton might as well pack up and go to hell.

Proton is useless, their enginners are retards and the government shouldnt be supporting such a useless ass car maker. Id rather the gov invest in Perodua and come out with some quality car that can rival the japs .

Yes im bashing proton for everything they got. as a useless company.

As for me, why pay 110k but still got problem like 50k Proton cars?
Problems in cheap car not make me so headache. I know the car is cheap.

at least ppl will always know that it's 110k car even broke to death already..

some(esp kampung ppl)  think perodua is "national car maker" manage the company and car designed by malaysian... they never heard about passo,mira or move

Basically the cost of the Pesona and The Vios or city is the same . Plus there was no development for tat car, all they did was extend an existing model . How do they justify it being 55k ? He said, what can you expect from a 55k car ? You can expect way more then the kind of crap Proton comes out with.

Id rather see perodua bring in more Jap cars at an affordable price rather then see Proton piss poor quality and cars. Yes I do know Perodua brings in Malaysian version of cars such as the Mira and such, but at least those cars are reasonable and worth buying.

If the gov didnt tax other cars, Alot of cars would be way affordable when compared to the proton cars.

Call me a retard or whatever, I tink ppl who waste that 50 over k on a Proton are not stupid but just a lack of choice and money.
What car do I drive ? I drive a city, never have any regrets = ) .

Went and see proton at carrefour Alamanda. Not bad design la. For big family i think proton offer better comfort than perodua's. Mind ya, i'm a perodua user as well as Audi User, and definitely if you guys has big family, proton can be considered. Don't always bash proton or perodua cause BOTH carries "Malaysia". Don't care la if they are part japanese or what, as long as it's announced by government as a Malaysian car, be proud of it. If always bash, u will not see anything related to malaysia anymore. Then why stay at the country? Think before bashing people... be sensible, be sensitive to surrounding. See what happen to that Negarakuku guy... Become kuku already!

The concept art from the newspaper, the steering looks so nice. But the real car steering looks so lousy.

thats coz its juz the normal gen2 steering, in which majority of people here hates.. it looks so cheapo n ugly, kinda like the steering wheel on one of those arcade race car game machines.. i expecially hate those really cheap looking radio control buttons on the steering wheels

wish that theyve used some better design for the steering..

In terms of marketing image, I don't think Persona really needs leather interior. That will only increase its production cost. And since it's kinda low end, the final price will only invite more Proton bashing.

Leather interior could be more appropriate for a high end trim Waja or Chancelor(sp?).

i reckon, he  just could not differentiate btw downgraded Japs car and pure Japs car

prrrfthh

Feel dissapoited to proton, ( BUT I DOESN'T MEAN I DONT SUPPORT LOCAL PRODUCTS).. look back to persona's engine compartment, feel that proton like to "tukar baju" only, there is no difference in TECHNOLOGY... everytime new car outlook are attractive but interior and engine compartment designs still no diference and very outdated deisgn~~!!!
Look at the engine compartment, the first thing dissapointed me is the engine mounting, i think it is more than 10 years technology design...but still the quality even worst than other brand, now all new foreign car are using hydraulic mounting or 360 degree (vertical +horizontal moutning in one) to absort the vibration caused by engine, so even you drive the car more than 3 years also won't shake too much like old damn car.
Secondly the engine, well...in persona they give a bigger air intakes paip, it might be more more powerful compare to others proton that uisng campro..but such a big car using campro 1.6... no comment since i haven't test drive yet.
lastly the car compartment, still as usual everything inside the car dashboard and door look so fragile..that's the proton engineer's tranditional i think...about the door..not that good as espected...not easy to close...i think perodua car is even better than it...

My savvy has that kind of mounting although it's Renault.

Would people complain if Proton start to use mountings that are expensive to replace later..as long as it's cheap to replace and do the job..shud be ok..look at neo's ride quality - smooth and no vbration..

I finally went to take a look at the Persona yesterday at a PE sales office off Jalan Kepong since i'm very familiar with a salesman there.

below is my personal opinion which doesn't reflect the majority taste. if my points is somewhat similar, then it's purely co-incidental.

The Good
1) MUCH roomier for rear passenger. ample head space and leg space.
2) Massive trunk space, bigger then waja.
3) Boot abosrber thingy which ease opening and closing of boot. no longer have to slam the boot shut with force.
4) Lots of sound proofing material in the boot, should be a quiet ride (haven't test drive yet though)
5) For performance freaks, the rear strut bar mounting point is easily accessable where the sound proof piece covering it, can be removed since it's stuck on with velcro.
no such luxury was found in the neo and those who want to install rear struts have to have their rear pannel removed or have a hole cut into them.
6) Comfortable driver seats, although not as bucket as the neo.
7) Door closes with a solid thud, although the door is very light in feeling, unlike the heavy doors of neo.
8) Really affordable price tag. at RM49 800 (M-line manual), it's only RM1300 more then my Neo at introduction price. If the neo and Persona launched at the same time, i would've got the persona instead.

The Bad
1) Engine bay setup 100% identical to Gen2 where the battery is located  at the back of the front passenger headlamps, leaving little room for intake mods.
2) I find the rear passenger seats a little too upright. if it's reclined further could be more comfortable.

The Ugly
1) UGLY steering wheel! looks really cheap, feels really cheap. They should've used the neo steering wheel instead.
2) They could've done better with the interior design (especially color scheme). I prefer the neo's interior design the best.

well, in the past, Gen2 performance kakis (Gen2club) did complaint about the battery location.

such "problem" was rectified in the Neo. and seeing that persona is launched one year after the neo, they should've taken some good stuff from the neo and added it into the persona, like how they arrange things in the engine bay. the engine bay of the persona is spacious, sadly, they could've done better in locating the components in a less cluttered manner.

the neo's engine bay is slightly smaller then the persona, which is why i'm surprise why they did the persona engine bay that way

well, CPS/VIM would be nice
maybe in the face lifted version in another year to come.

Any news on the facelift Gen2 with CPS engine? I hope it come soon otherwise I'm not sure there is any reason to buy the Gen2 since the persona is a better buy.

Fuuyoo , still want to support proton, IF mSia no proton, we all drive cheap import car liao.

This looks like a great car. But do you think it will destroy the market for Waja and Gen2 since its cheaper ?

But I believe they have to drop the price as well of Waja and Gen2 to compete directly. Maybe make Waja a 1.8, and Gen2 rename as Pesona Aeroback. I really hope they redesign the FRONT hood of Savvy because it looks like a big toilet seat cover.

Rear seat kind a hard. But front seat

lol, no wonder that salesman told me blueberry alot ppl ordered, but nvr see a real blueberry color Persona b4 leh.. scare i don like

Dunno. But do u realize the dashboard desgin like a V shape.
I like the one in Waja. Bulky

Too bad, no h-line manual

Auto good ah, if not the whole dman KL jam like hell, step on the clutch too much will make my leg tired i think lol,  actually i wanted to get manual also, becoz can play with da gear mah, but the H-line no manual.. then decide to get auto lo.

Err...Gen2, Waja and Neo manual got different config?

eh, the H-line Persona is HID headlamp 1 right ? yellow color or what ?

Wait until VW buy Proton
Maybe we can have AMT in Campro.

AMT is Proton style
DSG, VW style

at max 55.8k, it's a bargain for me...just wish they had EBD,ABS and whatever ABC seats for manual in H-line, but that would defeat one of the purpose of the TCU.

at 56k, what are the other options you might go for a 2nd hand japanese car?...one that challenges the new Proton-Care service of 5 years or 175k warranty?.

anyone got a better interest rate below 4%?...
I'm considering the fact...it's value for money....since I won't wait for CPS to be out until next year.

for the price tag between Rm45k to Rm56k; it is not a bad bargain;

hey P2 Myvi is not bad too but Persona has one thing it doesn't have; boot space !