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Home Networking Ditch ONU, use GPON SFP on Business Grade Router, 2.5G ONU for Unifi & Maxis, NO NEED VLAN

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post Jun 8 2021, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(mamakap @ Jun 8 2021, 01:22 PM)
Just got a SFP Ligent LTE3415-SH1, anyone familiar with this SFP?

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Note sure, have telnet/ssh/webui?
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post Jun 8 2021, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Jun 8 2021, 03:39 PM)
Note sure, have telnet/ssh/webui?
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I just plugged into my RB4011 and configured the interface, it seem quite hot. I still cannot access the webUI and ping the GPON stick ip.

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post Jun 26 2021, 06:24 AM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ May 6 2021, 09:44 PM)
I believe your ONU have 1000Mbps Link and your PPPoE account get speed cap,

Try this: https://www.dslreports.com/speedtest

if you get A or A+ on bufferbloat, means your ONU in full speed, no cap.
if you get B or below on bufferbloat, means your ONU obey OLT defined speed, you can use custom ONU to override this, but ISP can know since OLT sending alarm signal
Thanks for your reply mate, I did the bufferbloat test as you advised and the result was A across the board. So I guess no point for me to get a custom ONU. Thanks again man.
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post Jul 25 2021, 08:52 PM

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Hi, Anime4000

Incredible research you have done!

I'm currently investigating replacing the my current ONU with a SFP module. My intention is more of simplifying my current setup. I'm getting a B on the dslreport bufferbloat test, but I'm still ok with the current speed.

I have a few questions, if you don't mind.

I read from your research that using the custom ONU will trigger an alarm on the ONT side? Is it possible to just replace the ONU with an SFP ONU without triggering any alarm? Also, are you able to manage to get the phone line working? Is it possible to run my own FreePBX server and get the phone line working?
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post Jul 25 2021, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(askmestuff @ Jul 25 2021, 08:52 PM)
Hi, Anime4000

Incredible research you have done!

I'm currently investigating replacing the my current ONU with a SFP module. My intention is more of simplifying my current setup. I'm getting a B on the dslreport bufferbloat test, but I'm still ok with the current speed.

I have a few questions, if you don't mind.

I read from your research that using the custom ONU will trigger an alarm on the ONT side? Is it possible to just replace the ONU with an SFP ONU without triggering any alarm? Also, are you able to manage to get the phone line working? Is it possible to run my own FreePBX server and get the phone line working?
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To avoid OLT Alarm, you need make your SFP ONU Stick like your original ONU, by updating required info for your SFP ONU Stick
You can read here, I make complete guide and sacrifice my ONU collection for this purpose: https://github.com/Anime4000/RTL9601C1/blob.../VS_AUTH_KEY.md

TLDR, Using HG8240H ONT Device Information on SFP ONU Stick;
CODE

flash set PON_VENDOR_ID HWTC
flash set HW_CWMP_MANUFACTURER 'Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd'
flash set HW_CWMP_PRODUCTCLASS HG8240H
flash set HW_HWVER BF9.A
flash set ELAN_MAC_ADDR 043389FE8F59
flash set VS_AUTH_KEY 4FF78A9422FCBC797A0A3061186F20B7

flash set OMCI_FAKE_OK 1
flash set OMCI_SW_VER1 V3R017C10S100
flash set OMCI_SW_VER2 V3R017C10S100
flash set GPON_ONU_MODEL HG8240H
flash set GPON_SN HWTC98AFDD9D
flash set GPON_PLOAM_PASSWD 1234567890


When SFP ONU Stick connecting to OLT, and everything checks out!

Take note that GPON has fixed MTU size which is 2000 bytes.

Advantage using SFP ONU Stick allow you to use PPPoE MTU 1500, able to access many website that block MTU 1492
If your ISP support RFC4638

About Telephone over xPON, I pretty sure they use VLAN for this, refer to your ISP which VLAN they use for Telephone line, then you bridge it, either bridge tagged to tagged or tagged to untag
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post Jul 26 2021, 12:03 PM

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Thanks for the detailed response.

The current ONU I'm using is actually a TM Alcatel Lucent I240G.

The bottom panel shows a few fields:
SN1 (is this OMCI_SW_VER1?)
SN2 (is this OMCI_SW_VER2?)
MAC ID
Model Number
Material Number (Not sure what this is. Its a number in the format: 100000xxxx)

I seem to be missing hardware version, GPON_SN, VS_AUTH_KEY. What is the VS_AUTH_KEY, and how do I obtain that?

As for the PLOAM password, I think this should be the ONU password that I have. When the technicians came to install the internet for me 3-4 years ago, I asked them for the ONU access and password. I have been planning to replace the ONU since day 1 biggrin.gif . This password is a 10 digit numerical password.

Also, from their info, I can see that the VLAN VOIP is 400, and also, there's a VLAN_VOIP_PORT, which is a string in the format 4-400-LVxxxxxxxxxx. Not sure what this is for though.

This post has been edited by askmestuff: Jul 26 2021, 12:05 PM
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post Jul 26 2021, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(askmestuff @ Jul 26 2021, 12:03 PM)
Thanks for the detailed response.

The current ONU I'm using is actually a TM Alcatel Lucent I240G.

The bottom panel shows a few fields:
SN1 (is this OMCI_SW_VER1?)
SN2 (is this OMCI_SW_VER2?)
MAC ID
Model Number
Material Number (Not sure what this is. Its a number in the format: 100000xxxx)

I seem to be missing hardware version, GPON_SN, VS_AUTH_KEY. What is the VS_AUTH_KEY, and how do I obtain that?

As for the PLOAM password, I think this should be the ONU password that I have. When the technicians came to install the internet for me 3-4 years ago, I asked them for the ONU access and password. I have been planning to replace the ONU since day 1  biggrin.gif . This password is a 10 digit numerical password.

Also, from their info, I can see that the VLAN VOIP is 400, and also, there's a VLAN_VOIP_PORT, which is a string in the format 4-400-LVxxxxxxxxxx. Not sure what this is for though.
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all info can obtain from WebGUI like this
https://github.com/Anime4000/RTL9601C1/blob...H_GETSET_DEV.md
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Jul 26 2021, 03:12 PM)
all info can obtain from WebGUI like this
https://github.com/Anime4000/RTL9601C1/blob...H_GETSET_DEV.md
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Thanks!

Just curious, I saw that there is a firmware dump of UFiber-Instant in your repo, did you investigate if that SFP module is usable? I'm using a ER‑X‑SFP as my router, and I'm wondering if it might work better if everything is from the same company.
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QUOTE(askmestuff @ Jul 26 2021, 05:56 PM)
Thanks!

Just curious, I saw that there is a firmware dump of UFiber-Instant in your repo, did you investigate if that SFP module is usable? I'm using a ER‑X‑SFP as my router, and I'm wondering if it might work better if everything is from the same company.
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that was for Ubiquiti OLT to Ubiquiti ONU, don't mind.
Most router don't care what SFP is plugged, they see as Normal Ethernet.

SFP ONU Stick it self has own Web GUI & Telnet, just like miniture ONU in SFP Form Factor
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Jul 26 2021, 09:07 PM)
that was for Ubiquiti OLT to Ubiquiti ONU, don't mind.
Most router don't care what SFP is plugged, they see as Normal Ethernet.

SFP ONU Stick it self has own Web GUI & Telnet, just like miniture ONU in SFP Form Factor
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Ubnt does not have the best track record in terms of stability.

https://community.ui.com/questions/ER-4-Fai...d8-c4cb3a879c66

As you can see from this link, there are some issues with ER4 SFP that CarlitoxxPro himself pointed out to ubnt, but I think its ignored. The fix is already in the linux kernel as far as I know, but still no news about a fix from ubnt.
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Hi,

Anyone try with Huawei HPSP 2120 stick?
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QUOTE(arul_sr @ Aug 15 2021, 10:42 AM)
Hi,

Anyone try with Huawei HPSP 2120 stick?
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This not for Router SFP use, it did not have ONU SoC
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Aug 15 2021, 08:12 PM)
This not for Router SFP use, it did not have ONU SoC
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okay2. thank you.
so overall which one better?
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QUOTE(arul_sr @ Aug 16 2021, 10:23 AM)
okay2. thank you.
so overall which one better?
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High Compatibility is V2801F or TWCGPON657 with V2801F firmware.

Both are works on Unifi, or Maxis/DiGi/Celcom/other ISP via Unifi (non LAN1 provision)

Also support MTU 1508 (PPPoE MTU 1500)
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post Aug 17 2021, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Aug 16 2021, 06:26 PM)
High Compatibility is V2801F or TWCGPON657 with V2801F firmware.

Both are works on Unifi, or Maxis/DiGi/Celcom/other ISP via Unifi (non LAN1 provision)

Also support MTU 1508 (PPPoE MTU 1500)
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Allright bro, already email to Vsol regarding the onu stick model V2801F.
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QUOTE(arul_sr @ Aug 17 2021, 11:45 AM)
Allright bro, already email to Vsol regarding the onu stick model V2801F.
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These item become very popular, there is shortage, if you can get TWCGPON model, can be flash to
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Aug 17 2021, 08:32 PM)
These item become very popular, there is shortage, if you can get TWCGPON model, can be flash to
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allright..they just reply my email. i got V2801F without shipping USD26.
they can do production if got bulk order.

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QUOTE(arul_sr @ Aug 17 2021, 09:03 PM)
allright..they just reply my email. i got V2801F without shipping USD26.
they can do production if got bulk order.
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did you order one? Mind to share shipping? i am interested.
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QUOTE(myxery @ Aug 18 2021, 12:42 PM)
did you order one? Mind to share shipping? i am interested.
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can join order too?
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QUOTE(arul_sr @ Aug 17 2021, 09:03 PM)
allright..they just reply my email. i got V2801F without shipping USD26.
they can do production if got bulk order.
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Let me know if it is possible to join order,tq

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