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post May 12 2008, 08:45 PM

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latest version of my system16 simulation software
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post May 12 2008, 09:16 PM

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i like ur last quote the most wink.gif

Dont gamble when u go genting.


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post May 13 2008, 12:19 PM

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Evening bet:
i)BBBP===B(lose),B(won)===+RM10
ii)
PPPB===P(won)========+RM10 you should bet P again since you won the first hand (round) to try catch dragon if there is any
iii)BBPB===B(lose),B(won)== +RM10
iv)PBPB===P(lose),B(won)===+RM10

wow you stay in genting? or you gamble at some illegal casino?


Added on May 13, 2008, 12:22 pmyes shonky at least not as dumb as someone with scam shonky betting charts, teaching how to
bet rm300,000 just to win rm10

You got your point there, but I think that is the only way to win


HE IS TEACHING HIS FATHER HOW TO F>>K ........ CASINO SPEND SO MUCH MONEY TO WIN YOUR MONEY, IT IS ONLY LOGICAL WE ALSO HAVE TO INVEST IN BIG MONEY TO EARN SMALL MONEY. NOTHING IS FREE

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post May 13 2008, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 13 2008, 12:19 PM)
HE IS TEACHING HIS FATHER HOW TO F>>K ........  CASINO SPEND SO MUCH MONEY TO WIN YOUR MONEY, IT IS ONLY LOGICAL WE ALSO HAVE TO INVEST IN BIG MONEY TO EARN SMALL MONEY. NOTHING IS FREE
stupid scam user posted image shonky, I know you are a big fake liar, can you stop cloning my avatar fool! user posted image

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Added on May 12, 2008, 7:25 pm
QUOTE(bulkbiz @ May 10 2008, 11:28 PM)
SYSTEM16 PROJECT
Start Date: 12/05/2008-08/06/2008

Description:
This is a betting stratergy that using martingale system, where we double our bet if we lost, our target is progression bet until the fourth, if lost then declare lost. The minimum bankroll is RM150, 10>20>40>80. Target of the day is withdraw 4 papers, minimum winning is RM40, maximum loses is RM150. I will prepare 3xbankroll, which is RM450.

12/05/2008
i)PBPB===P(won)===+RM10
ii)BPPB===B(Lose),P(Lose),P(Lose),B(Lose)===-RM150
iii)PPBP===P(Lose),P(Won)===+RM10
iv)PBBP===P(win)===+RM10
Total Profit=-RM120

Remarks: Bad Luck day, lost during second round, current bankroll =RM450-RM120=RM330 left smile.gif

Evening bet:
i)[B]BBBP===B(lose),B(won)===+RM10
ii)[/B]PPPB===P(won)========+RM10
iii)BBPB===B(lose),B(won)== +RM10
iv)PBPB===P(lose),B(won)===+RM10

Remarks: To free, so decided to bet four round, current bankroll=RM330+RM40=RM370:)


13/05/2008
i)B(W)
ii)B(L),P(W)
iii)P(W)
iv)P(W)

Remarks: Won RM40, current bankroll=RM370+RM40=RM410

14/05/2008

15/05/2008

16/05/2008


STAY TUNE ON 14/5/2008(WEDNESDAY), KEEP THIS THREAD GOING!!!
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post May 13 2008, 06:26 PM

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Okay just to share, I found this on the internet, in one forum:

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Double up your betting is call Martingale betting system. This betting stratergy exist hundred years ago. Many people do not know how to use this betting stratergy and end up lost all the money. Next time when anyone of you go casino, set a lost limit. See the below example steps:

1)Prepare bankroll of $150
2)Go to Baccarat table, wait for the sequence, when banker open 4 times in a roll, you bet $10 on player, if lost, bet $20 on player again, if lost again, bet $40 on Player again, if still lost, bet $80 on Player one last time. If still lost, means banker open 8 times in a roll. You go and check how many times this will happen? My experience is open 11 times in a roll. Most of the time, it is 4-6 time maximum.

If you win any of the game, you will win $10. After win 4-5 times, go home. That is how full time gambler win money in casino. They bet $100 instead of $10. So they will win $500 everyday. During their bad luck day, they will lost $1500. But this seldom happen if you play short term.


YOU GREEDY, YOU LOST!!! DON'T PLAY ONLINE CASINO OR LIVE CASINO, THEY ARE ALL CHEATER. TRUST ME, I HAVE FRIENDS WORK IN ONLINE CASINO COMPANY IN FILIPINE.

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This is even easier than system16?
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post May 13 2008, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(pdapro @ May 13 2008, 06:26 PM)
Okay just to share, I found this on the internet, in one forum:

----------snip-------------------

Double up your betting is call Martingale betting system. This betting stratergy exist hundred years ago. Many people do not know how to use this betting stratergy and end up lost all the money. Next time when anyone of you go casino, set a lost limit. See the below example steps:

1)Prepare bankroll of $150
2)Go to Baccarat table, wait for the sequence, when banker open 4 times in a roll, you bet $10 on player, if lost, bet $20 on player again, if lost again, bet $40 on Player again, if still lost, bet $80 on Player one last time. If still lost, means banker open 8 times in a roll. You go and check how many times this will happen? My experience is open 11 times in a roll. Most of the time, it is 4-6 time maximum.

If you win any of the game, you will win $10. After win 4-5 times, go home. That is how full time gambler win money in casino. They bet $100 instead of $10. So they will win $500 everyday. During their bad luck day, they will lost $1500. But this seldom happen if you play short term.
YOU GREEDY, YOU LOST!!! DON'T PLAY ONLINE CASINO OR LIVE CASINO, THEY ARE ALL CHEATER. TRUST ME, I HAVE FRIENDS WORK IN ONLINE CASINO COMPANY IN FILIPINE.

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This is even easier than system16?
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that is system128!!
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QUOTE(pdapro @ May 13 2008, 06:26 PM)
That is how full time gambler win money in casino. They bet $100 instead of $10.
Risk, Profit, ROI
10       1     50%
20       1     15%
40       1     7.5%
80       1    3.75%
160     1    1.65%
320     1     0.85%
640     1     0.42%


Any system that risks big bankroll bust to win a one small unit IS NOT A SYSTEM at all, it's suicide in the making!
You must be out of your mind when you say full time player would bet such a dumb way, go and tell them and be prepared to be spit in the face.. user posted image

   
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post May 13 2008, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(Joehans @ May 13 2008, 07:22 PM)
Risk,                          Profit,                           ROI         
10          1        50%
20               1           15%  
40          1         7.5%
80          1     3.75%
160      1     1.65%
320       1       0.85%
640       1         0.42%
Any system that risks big bankroll bust to win a one small unit IS NOT A SYSTEM at all, it's suicide in the making!
You must be out of your mind when you say full time player would bet such a dumb way, go and tell them and be prepared to be spit in the face.. user posted image

   
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Ok, thanks for the advise, do you have any flat betting system?


Added on May 13, 2008, 7:45 pm
QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 13 2008, 07:09 PM)
that is system128!!
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Actually I noticed some weakness about this stratergy, let say you get 5 times banker in a roll, and u bet on player, but the outcome is tie...I could say the "tie" will actually break the dragon, it could be banker again after the tie...it is like starting all over again...u get what i mean?


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post May 14 2008, 12:16 AM

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adol this joehans kindergarten addition and division is better then him. 50%, 15%, 7.5% what rubbish he saying, no wonder his mismanaged his money, this guy odd to lose doh.gif

must be joehans lost big money becos he thought he was bill gates so he use martingale up to the 7th progression, if you pok 7th progression is big problem, that is the reason why he so hate martingale. guys , this is one bad example of martingale real example so you see for yourself!! doh.gif never over stretch your finance. stretching martingale to 7 or 8 pregression is more like digging your grave. did i recommend you that? so why is this stupid dog blaring about with sarcasium?


Added on May 14, 2008, 1:10 ambulkbiz you had 2 opportunities to win more by following dragon but you didn't .

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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 14 2008, 12:16 AM)
must be joehans lost big money becos he thought he was bill gates so he use martingale up to the 7th progression,

come on shonky user posted image again, your scam charts does not make any difference, it is just a jump in and jump out, hit and miss scam charts,
you get an illusion that your system working because of the suicide double your bets as you lose scams
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QUOTE(pdapro @ May 13 2008, 07:31 PM)
Ok, thanks for the advise, do you have any flat betting system?


Added on May 13, 2008, 7:45 pm

Actually I noticed some weakness about this stratergy, let say you get 5 times banker in a roll, and u bet on player, but the outcome is tie...I could say the "tie" will actually break the dragon, it could be banker again after the tie...it is like starting all over again...u get what i mean?
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system128 theory is that streaks not like to occur 10 times in a row. so from 5th time you must follow to the 10th round and be prepared with a capital of 128 units. tie is counted as non event, that is the reason why casino do not print more than 6 vertical slots on their baccarat recording slips

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post May 14 2008, 01:34 AM

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flat betting: if you check with a software or play manually by 8decks cards, you will find that your averaging win to lose will be something like this, if say 60hands per shoe

win lose
27 33
29 31
30 30
25 35
34 26
22 38

try it if you dont believe overall, you tend to lose more then you can win. then come along the commission or B6 i dare say within 3 shoes you will lose 70% - 80% of your bankroll due to commissions. that is the reason why casino wants you to play flat betting, lose also casino cannot lose much to you.

eg:
win lose win lose win lose is actually draw , but bankroll wise you lose 7.5% average. if all 3 bankers are win you lose 15% of your wager !!
this only represents 6 hands x 10=60hands therefore you will lose 75%-150% of your wager amount. becos in flat bet you will have tendency to stake more that martingale your each hands wager amount can be as high as 20% this will represent about 30% of your bankroll!! in just 1 shoe !! x 3 shoes = 90% it is like a free gift to the casino, no way you can fight back. the only advantage is: you get some change back because your wager amount is too small to make a bet. i also been thru this flatbet before, that is why i still prefer system16, it gives you satisfaction when you win 4-6 pcs easily, however, if you greedy, just too bad. become like joehans condemn here and there becos pocket kosong, saliva dropping no chance to play again.


5% commission: when you play system16 commission 5% is neglegible because you are actually playing 8-10 hands so it is about 10%-15% of each wager amount in total..because you play less!! joehans dont be stubband you gain nothing by arguing. your thinking maybe right but your approach is wrong, a chinese will calculate like me. you cannot calculate at all

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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 14 2008, 01:15 AM)
system128  theory is that streaks not like to occur 10 times in a row. so from 5th time you must follow to the 10th round and be prepared with a capital of 128 units.  tie is counted as non event, that is the reason why casino do not print more than 6 vertical slots on their baccarat recording slips
Come on shonky user posted image stop your lies can't you accept the reality that your martingale system sucks and it's waiting to fail big time!
you think you can hit and run for a while and make small peanut (not millions) winnings, but it's just a matter of time the odds will
catch up with you, where you gonna run then? run back to your mama and ask for more money?
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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 14 2008, 01:34 AM)
flat betting: you will find that your averaging win to lose will be something like this, if say 60hands per shoe
try it if you dont believe overall, you tend to lose more then you can win. then come along the commission or B6 i dare say within 3 shoes you will lose 70% - 80% of your bankroll due to commissions. that is the reason why casino wants you to play flat betting, lose also casino cannot lose much to you.
,it is like a free gift to the casino, no way you can fight back.
you're a fool who never seems to understand that 5% commission on banker side is in effect
regardless of you flat bet or by using your scam double your bet while lose charts.

UNTIL TODAY, SHONKY STILL UNABLE TO ANSWER THIS BIG QUESTION

"so how does your scam martingale charts overides the constant 5% commission on banker side?"

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for martingale 1/16 it is safe because i can win many MANY times, if i lose i lose back some that i have gained earlier. ...so what, but in flat bet you are actually into a negative expectation, (rolling down genting hill) endless. i have lose plenty this way, I WILL NEVER EVER USE FLAT BET AGAIN!!!!!!! THANKS MARTINGALE I HAVE WON BACK PLUS EXTRAS wub.gif LOVE MARTINGALE
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QUOTE(edwardng9949 @ May 14 2008, 01:34 AM)
5% commission:  when you play system16 commission 5% is neglegible because you are actually playing 8-10 hands so it is about 10%-15% of each wager amount in total..because you play less!!
what difference does playing less has got to do with the 5% house edge?
come one shonky you'll have to understand that progressions/martingale don't change the odds.

If the house 5% edge stings, try landing on banker while playing martingale and it will sting you harder!

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QUOTE(Joehans @ May 14 2008, 02:16 AM)
what difference does playing less has got to do with the 5% house edge?
come one shonky you'll have to understand that progressions/martingale don't change the odds.
 
If the house 5% edge stings, try landing on banker while playing martingale and it will sting you harder!

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the difference is i play much lesser to a sure win. you idiot!! while yours is a free gift to casino , bulkbiz is showing you now he is recovering from a lose to a win. if he had follow my system he would have won rm120 or more

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